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#21 Triumph

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 05:19 PM

I don't think anyone would want Volchenkov, but amnestying him doesn't make much sense. The only reason to do it would be just to straight up save money - the Devils will be fine on the cap in 2013-14.
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 05:21 PM

It wouldn't even save them money...between the amount of money they'd have to pay on the buyout combined with the salary whoever replaces him on the roster gets it would be next to zero savings. The only reason to do it is for the cap, especially considering the cap could go down to $60 million with four key/semi-key FA's this offseason.
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 05:34 PM

It wouldn't even save them money...between the amount of money they'd have to pay on the buyout combined with the salary whoever replaces him on the roster gets it would be next to zero savings. The only reason to do it is for the cap, especially considering the cap could go down to $60 million with four key/semi-key FA's this offseason.


If they replaced him with Urbom it would save significant money. He's due 12.75M so an amnesty would be for 6.375M - with the Devils' young defensemen that are coming up, they could save serious cash.

The Devils are in a tremendous cap situation for 13-14. 4 key free agents, but two will take huge paycuts if they stay. Many other teams won't have money available to offer, so the market will be depressed.
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 06:05 PM

i would rather buy out salvador and keep volchenkov
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 06:17 PM

i would rather buy out salvador and keep volchenkov

Less realistic. Volch looked like Mark Fraser in the playoffs last year. Contract aside, I'd rather have the spot for someone else to get a look.Saving the money is just a bonus.
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 06:26 PM

If they replaced him with Urbom it would save significant money. He's due 12.75M so an amnesty would be for 6.375M - with the Devils' young defensemen that are coming up, they could save serious cash.

The Devils are in a tremendous cap situation for 13-14. 4 key free agents, but two will take huge paycuts if they stay. Many other teams won't have money available to offer, so the market will be depressed.


I thought players got 2/3 of the money total of a buyout, spread over six years in Volchenkov's case? That might change in a new CBA regardless but I guess it saves 'up-front' money.

I don't think anyone's really in a 'good' cap situation if the owners get what they want, though I suspect the $60 million number has to be negotiated up a little. We're just above the floor this year and it's basically $5 million less than what the celing's supposed to be next year. With our UFA's, total salaries might be a wash at best if all four re-sign. Elias and Zubrus will get a little less (4-4.5 and 2-2.5), Clarkson and Zajac (4+ and 5.5-6) a little more. Other RFA's might have to get a raise.

Edited by NJDevs4978, 30 December 2012 - 06:27 PM.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:20 PM

I thought players got 2/3 of the money total of a buyout, spread over six years in Volchenkov's case? That might change in a new CBA regardless but I guess it saves 'up-front' money.


Amnesty buyouts under the previous arrangement were 1/2 of the money, though I don't remember how the money was distributed.

I don't think anyone's really in a 'good' cap situation if the owners get what they want, though I suspect the $60 million number has to be negotiated up a little. We're just above the floor this year and it's basically $5 million less than what the celing's supposed to be next year. With our UFA's, total salaries might be a wash at best if all four re-sign. Elias and Zubrus will get a little less (4-4.5 and 2-2.5), Clarkson and Zajac (4+ and 5.5-6) a little more. Other RFA's might have to get a raise.


The NHL is a closed system. That means that of necessity, some teams must be in a better cap situation than others. The Devils having tons of cap room (with UFAs) is a great situation to be in, because there will be a reduced market for all players. Big market teams will not only not be looking to add, they will be looking to subtract to get under the cap. Clarkson's current contract was signed with a 59.4M cap. He won't get a substantial raise unless he has a great half-season (and even if he does, the Devils should let him walk because there'll be better players available for less money). I agree with you that I don't think 60.xM is the final number, but something like 62M could be the number, and that still puts a lot of teams up against it. Small market teams aren't looking to spend any more, either.
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Posted 01 January 2013 - 07:32 PM

Amnesty buyouts under the previous arrangement were 1/2 of the money, though I don't remember how the money was distributed.


Over double the duration of the remaining contract....when Colin White was bought out he had one year left, so the buyout cap hit counted for two seasons
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 02:22 PM

Less realistic. Volch looked like Mark Fraser in the playoffs last year. Contract aside, I'd rather have the spot for someone else to get a look.Saving the money is just a bonus.


Salvador is also considered a strong leader of that locker room, and the leader of the 'no name defense.' He really got them to rally around that in the playoffs. From all accounts, he's very determined and hard working in pre-season and practice. He's the kind of guy you want the younger players working with and following the example of.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:48 PM

Just curious what people think, but what about iginla? He's got 1 year left. I don't think he will be re-signing in Calgary. Maybe he gets bought out or traded?
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:24 PM

Just curious what people think, but what about iginla? He's got 1 year left. I don't think he will be re-signing in Calgary. Maybe he gets bought out or traded?


Thats absolutely impossible and a disgrace from the organization to buy out Iginla... Would be absolutely disgusting
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 10:26 AM

Thats absolutely impossible and a disgrace from the organization to buy out Iginla... Would be absolutely disgusting


Agreed. It would be like us buying out Marty. No matter how bad it gets, Marty has done us so right, that we have to stick to him through a bad season or finincial issues even if it hurts us. Calgary should feel nearly the same for Iginla. The guy spent his whole career there, later on to only be stuck on awful teams where Kiprusoff was/still is the only saving grace of that team. Both those guys should have long ago disappeared from Calgary, but they didn't.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 10:34 AM

now they are talking about 2 buyouts per team?
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 10:37 AM

now they are talking about 2 buyouts per team?


The more the better, right? The more guys dumped into FA just devalues them; supply and demand will bring their cost down.

Edit: Or do you think two buyouts might allow teams to weasel out of too much of their bad contracts and help them too much? Though if the cap does go down to $60-65M, two might not help everyone.

Edited by ATLL765, 03 January 2013 - 10:39 AM.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 11:13 AM

Thats absolutely impossible and a disgrace from the organization to buy out Iginla... Would be absolutely disgusting

Maybe not a buyout but I feel a trade is likely.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 11:23 AM

Maybe not a buyout but I feel a trade is likely.


that should have been done a long time ago... they should have blow the team and get good picks cause they really dont have a bright future... but they will wait till its too late and that their top players are not worth too much.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 12:33 PM

Iginla's their franchise player and I expect him to stay in Calgary his whole career. And even if he's not, he will go to a sexier franchise than NJ for his declining years (which I don't think I want to be a part of - he was brutal at even strength last year)

2 buyouts won't be used by that many teams IMO
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 12:38 PM

Basically what Tri said. Iginla will stay then go to a team considered a contender so he can get a ring. New Jersey is never considered a contender.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 12:39 PM

2 buyouts won't be used by that many teams IMO


Rangers were probably complaining it wasn't fair they had to use their first buyout on an AHL player. :lol:
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 03:55 PM

How about horcoff as a potential buyout? Saw something on puck daddy today discussing it
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