78 replies to this topic

[CRASHER]

Has there been a QB in the last twenty years that regressed as badly as Sanchez and gotten it back together? I can't really think of one.

Alex Smith.......

You could say Rich Gannon pre-Gruden and post-Gruden too.....

Edited by CRASHER, 02 January 2013 - 05:29 PM.

[NJDevs4978]

Speaking of strugging QB's, one of the funniest ironies of this offseason is Kevin Kolb's probably praying Reid goes to Arizona, after Reid got rid of him. Unless Reid also brings Vick into Arizona and replaces Kolb with him AGAIN

Edited by NJDevs4978, 02 January 2013 - 05:38 PM.

[Daniel]

Alex Smith.......

You could say Rich Gannon pre-Gruden and post-Gruden too.....

I wouldn't put Alex Smith in that category. Smith never looked completely lost like Sanchez did this year, and it was understood that he was put in a terrible situation from the start.

Gannon was more of a journeyman backup before he got a chance in Oakland, so I din't think that counts either.

[MadDog2020]

The Bills hired Doug Marrone as their head coach. The Bills are hilarious.

[Daniel]

The Bills hired Doug Marrone as their head coach. The Bills are hilarious.

I don't know much about him, so hard to judge the hire.

Didn't have a great record at Syracuse, but it shouldn't necessarily be held against him. College success comes down to recruiting, which isn't a factor in the pro-game.

Whatever the case though, the Bills obviously had no success going the retread route, and it was doubtful that a high profile guy like Cowher would ever take that job.

[Hi, I'm VALUE!]

Also, for those that missed it, Andy Reid snubbed the Cardinals for BBQ Ribs The Chiefs, and Pioli and the Chiefs parted ways. Rumor is that Tom Heckert, longtime Reid ally, will be the new GM

Edited by Hi, I'm VALUE!, 07 January 2013 - 11:10 AM.

[Hi, I'm VALUE!]

Chip Kelly stays at Oregon.

Ron Rivera will return as Panthers coach

[MadDog2020]

I don't know much about him, so hard to judge the hire.

Didn't have a great record at Syracuse, but it shouldn't necessarily be held against him. College success comes down to recruiting, which isn't a factor in the pro-game.

Whatever the case though, the Bills obviously had no success going the retread route, and it was doubtful that a high profile guy like Cowher would ever take that job.

.
From all accounts he didn't do that bad a job at Syracuse and who knows- maybe he turns out to be a good coach. But it's typical Bills to go the cheap unknown route, as opposed to hiring a more expensive name coach like Lovey Smith or Ken Whisenhunt, both of whom have coached in Super Bowls recently. Hopefully Marrone blows like every other coach they've had since Levy though.

['7']

Well once upon a time Marv Levy was cheap and unknown...and old.

Cowher is an overrate prick. He's looking for a place that give him full control of everything right down to how toilet paper is hung in the bathrooms. He's not good enough to make those demands.

Maybe this sounds stupid, I've said it before and I'll say it again

Cowher is only 55, he might be sending feelers here and their...but he's really quietly hoping to take over the Steelers again. They lost to a mediocre Bronco team with Tebow at QB in 2011, disastrously missed the playoffs this year. If they miss again next year Tomlin could be gone.

[CRASHER]

So he loses Lee, Ratliff, Spencer, Carter and Ware by the end of the season, and ROB RYAN gets fired?!?!?!?!?!?

Are you fraking kidding me Jerry??? Year after year you keep and promote that inept soulless ginger who's been here close to a DECADE and you actually fire the ONE COACH WHO ACTUALLY DID HIS JOB AND IMPROVED THE DAMN DEFENSE EVERY YEAR?!??!?!?!? *sigh*......I've had it......I can't root for this team anymore until something near fatal happens to Jerry Jones.....thank God I own four XFL jerseys....I'm gonna need them for next year.....

un-damned-believable.........

[MantaRay]

So he loses Lee, Ratliff, Spencer, Carter and Ware by the end of the season, and ROB RYAN gets fired?!?!?!?!?!?

Are you fraking kidding me Jerry??? Year after year you keep and promote that inept soulless ginger who's been here close to a DECADE and you actually fire the ONE COACH WHO ACTUALLY DID HIS JOB AND IMPROVED THE DAMN DEFENSE EVERY YEAR?!??!?!?!? *sigh*......I've had it......I can't root for this team anymore until something near fatal happens to Jerry Jones.....thank God I own four XFL jerseys....I'm gonna need them for next year.....

un-damned-believable.........

As someone who grew up hating (but still respecting) the Tom Landry/Jimmy Johnson run Cowboys: I love too see the magic that Jerry Jones wields on the once great franchise. I no longer hate the Cowboys because as long as Jerry calls the shots, they are no threat to anyone year after year. This is great news for the Giants, Eagles and Redskins!

[Daniel]

As someone who grew up hating (but still respecting) the Tom Landry/Jimmy Johnson run Cowboys: I love too see the magic that Jerry Jones wields on the once great franchise. I no longer hate the Cowboys because as long as Jerry calls the shots, they are no threat to anyone year after year. This is great news for the Giants, Eagles and Redskins!

The talent is certainly there. Jerry Jones deserves a lot of credit for that if you assume he's the one making the personnel moves. Previously, they choked in the playoffs, and now they're underachieving the whole season. Question is, how much blame for that falls on the GM.

[CRASHER]

The talent is certainly there. Jerry Jones deserves a lot of credit for that if you assume he's the one making the personnel moves. Previously, they choked in the playoffs, and now they're underachieving the whole season. Question is, how much blame for that falls on the GM.

His offensive line sucks....his receivers are glass....so are his running backs, he promotes and keeps the inept coach around and FIRES the one WHO DID HIS JOB WELL....you tell me
Jerry needs the Bill Wirtz treatment....drink till he don't get up no more.....

[MantaRay]

That is the rub. Regardless of the talent on the Cowboys they will never be a top team because the players look upon the coaching staff as expendable and without any real authority. Having the Owner as GM is more a benefit for the players to buddy up to. The Cowboys are very much like the Raiders, but with better scouting.

Edited by MantaRay, 09 January 2013 - 04:28 PM.

[Daniel]

His offensive line sucks....his receivers are glass....so are his running backs, he promotes and keeps the inept coach around and FIRES the one WHO DID HIS JOB WELL....you tell me
Jerry needs the Bill Wirtz treatment....drink till he don't get up no more.....

Injuries you can't predict, so I don't think he should get the blame for his receivers and back being glass. In any event, I'd take Dez Bryant, Miles Austin and Jason Witten on my team any day.

[CRASHER]

Injuries you can't predict, so I don't think he should get the blame for his receivers and back being glass. In any event, I'd take Dez Bryant, Miles Austin and Jason Witten on my team any day.

These guys get hurt EVERY GODDAMN YEAR, at the very least you need to take a SERIOUS look into your medical staff and your off-season conditioning....Miles Austin pulls a goddamn hamstring putting his pants on....Murray's been hurt two years in a row....Felix Jones has always been brittle....it's damned absurd now....

And believe me you'd not have to twist my arm very hard to send Miles Austin to Miami.....

[MadDog2020]

These guys get hurt EVERY GODDAMN YEAR, at the very least you need to take a SERIOUS look into your medical staff and your off-season conditioning....Miles Austin pulls a goddamn hamstring putting his pants on....Murray's been hurt two years in a row....Felix Jones has always been brittle....it's damned absurd now....

And believe me you'd not have to twist my arm very hard to send Miles Austin to Miami.....

I want no part of Miles Austin, thanks. I'll take Mike Wallace or Greg Jennings and get a WR in the draft long before I consider trading for a guy who gets hurt brushing his teeth.

[Daniel]

These guys get hurt EVERY GODDAMN YEAR, at the very least you need to take a SERIOUS look into your medical staff and your off-season conditioning....Miles Austin pulls a goddamn hamstring putting his pants on....Murray's been hurt two years in a row....Felix Jones has always been brittle....it's damned absurd now....

And believe me you'd not have to twist my arm very hard to send Miles Austin to Miami.....

Do you agree with the statement that the Cowboys underachieve? If so, it's a concession that it's a talented roster, all things considered. That no one says a team like the Bills underachieve shows that it has inept personnel decision makers.

Obviously Jerry Jones has issues, most notably with the coaching staff. Still he's better than his detractors give him credit for.

[Daniel]

I want no part of Miles Austin, thanks. I'll take Mike Wallace or Greg Jennings and get a WR in the draft long before I consider trading for a guy who gets hurt brushing his teeth.

If you pulled him off the scrap heat like the Cowboys did, you'd take him, or at least you'd consider it a good move. It doesn't have as much to do with how good I think he is right now, only that Some of the criticism of Jerry Jones is unfair.

MaDDog, would you have rather the Phins drafted Dez Bryant, instead of Odrick and Misi? I would.

[MadDog2020]

If you pulled him off the scrap heat like the Cowboys did, you'd take him, or at least you'd consider it a good move. It doesn't have as much to do with how good I think he is right now, only that Some of the criticism of Jerry Jones is unfair.

MaDDog, would you have rather the Phins drafted Dez Bryant, instead of Odrick and Misi? I would.

Dez is a pain in the ass. Dude's a grown man and needs a fvcking baby-sitter to make sure he doesn't get in trouble- and this is in DALLAS. If he played in Miami, he'd need a secret service detail to keep him in line. Odrick and Misi aren't bad players- they're just not great players. I would've just stayed at 12 and drafted Earl Thomas that year, but Jeff Ireland's a fvcking dipsh!t, so...