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#61 NJDevils1214

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 03:47 PM

Surplus of D and lack of O. I would hate to see Fayne or Greene moved because of the log jam on the blue line.

Butler with Zajac and Kovalchuk could be something. Hell, they turned Nicky Palms into a passable NHLer in the spring of 11. Butler has the wheels to keep up. Just hope he can backcheck.


I think Harrold played really well too especially considering the situation he was put in. He showed a lot of poise and did what he was supposed to do, which if we are honest, might have been more than we expected from him. :giggle:
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#62 CarpathianForest

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 03:55 PM

So how does this work? Is it still possible to sign UFA and make trades or are these windows closed?
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 05:16 PM

So how does this work? Is it still possible to sign UFA and make trades or are these windows closed?


Once the CBA is signed, teams can sign UFA. No idea bout trades, I would think its the same as signing a UFA starts when the CBA is signed.
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#64 Devil Dan 56

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 05:26 PM

Why are people insisting that Butler play on the first line. And how has nobody called them out for this.

the FIRST line?!?!

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They had Nick Palmieri there a season ago and he was terrible. If Butler fits on the first line, that's the spot for him. And at this point he fits better than anyone else currently on the team.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 05:31 PM

Volchenkov was an anchor of the best penalty kill in NHL history last year. I don't understand this hostility.


Apparently he has been chosen as the official scapegoat. We need one every season.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 05:35 PM

I wouldn't say he's a scapegoat. He's really susceptible to injury and we have a lot of good D prospects. I was always kind of curious why we signed him in the first place. He's a shot blocking specialist and doesn't Marty get annoyed with shot blocking?
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 05:41 PM

I wouldn't say he's a scapegoat. He's really susceptible to injury and we have a lot of good D prospects. I was always kind of curious why we signed him in the first place. He's a shot blocking specialist and doesn't Marty get annoyed with shot blocking?


He's a very physical defenseman. That toughness is needed back there. Guys like Greene, Fayne, and Tallinder are going to play good defense, but they won't make life difficult for players like Volchenkov would.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 05:43 PM

They had Nick Palmieri there a season ago and he was terrible. If Butler fits on the first line, that's the spot for him. And at this point he fits better than anyone else currently on the team.

PASSSSSSSS. no thanks, thats not the answer.
Guy had 16 points for Ottawa last year and I am hearing 2 too many votes to put him on our first line
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 05:45 PM

Is now a good time to mention the name Ken Klee?
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 05:55 PM

PASSSSSSSS. no thanks, thats not the answer.
Guy had 16 points for Ottawa last year and I am hearing 2 too many votes to put him on our first line


And he had a good year the year before that on Ottawa and he's doing well in Albany. Who else would you put there? Clarkson??
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 06:01 PM

And he had a good year the year before that on Ottawa and he's doing well in Albany. Who else would you put there? Clarkson??

I would rather see Butler on the 3rd line then. Put Clarky for now, and put Henrique on the first when he comes back. Ideally, we'd add a player from outside the Devils, but I don't see much to work with unless we talk trades.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 06:39 PM

I would rather see Butler on the 3rd line then. Put Clarky for now, and put Henrique on the first when he comes back. Ideally, we'd add a player from outside the Devils, but I don't see much to work with unless we talk trades.


I don't think Clarkson has the hockey sense to work with Kovy and Zajac. You give him a week or so of losing the puck in his skates and falling down and Kovy will probably start hitting him with shots on purpose.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:38 PM

Technically this is what we have or could have easily... which is... not too good on offense imo lol the worst thing is we don't have anyone other than Tedenby that i could see brought up and that could play in the NHL... plus we're starting the season without Henrique and of course Josefson will get injured eventually and some other injuries could happen... but we have some money to spend and i hope Lou gets creative with all our dmen that we could trade. Ideally we'd need a real top 6 RW or 2 lol

Ilya Kovalchuk ($6.667m) / Travis Zajac ($3.888m) / Dainius Zubrus ($3.400m)
Patrik Elias ($6.000m) / Adam Henrique ($0.854m) / David Clarkson ($2.667m)
Petr Sykora ($0.650m) / Jacob Josefson ($0.900m) / Ryan Carter ($0.775m)
Steve Bernier ($0.775m) / Stephen Gionta ($0.563m) / Krystofer Barch ($0.750m)
Cam Janssen ($0.575m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Adam Larsson ($0.925m) / Bryce Salvador ($3.167m)
Henrik Tallinder ($3.375m) / Marek Zidlicky ($4.000m)
Andy Greene ($3.000m) / Mark Fayne ($1.300m)
Anton Volchenkov ($4.250m) / Peter Harrold ($0.525m)
GOALTENDERS
Martin Brodeur ($4.500m)
Johan Hedberg ($1.400m)
BUYOUTS
Colin White ($1.000m) / Trent Hunter ($0.667m) / Eric Boulton ($0.163m)
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TOTALS
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $56,733,333; BONUSES: $262,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $13,729,167
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:41 PM

another thing is like i said somewhere... i dont see Clarkson and Sykora repeating, i dont see our 4th line producing like in the playoffs... i expect Elias productions to be a little lower, Henrique same or little bit higher... and zajac production is extra from last year or course

im curious to see Larsson now, heard he was getting more comfortable getting the puck up the ice and everything.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:42 PM

another thing is like i said somewhere... i dont see Clarkson and Sykora repeating, i dont see our 4th line producing like in the playoffs... i expect Elias productions to be a little lower, Henrique same or little bit higher... and zajac production is extra from last year or course

im curious to see Larsson now, heard he was getting more comfortable getting the puck up the ice and everything.

17 pts in 31 for Larsson is very encouraging. Considering he was facing top opposition and playing PK
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:50 PM

Butler was also battling injuries and put on the fourth line after coming back. He wasnt 100% and still put up 16 points in a 4th line role. If he was healthy and in the top 6 then I would agree but it wasnt the case. When healthy he can be a big time threat, and playing with players like zajac and kovy (who draw attention to themselves) could set him up a lot.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 12:11 AM

Should be interesting to see how the lines shake out given we are heavy at Center. I wonder if Elias stays there or is shifted back over to winger....I think this is the one part of the short season I hate, less time to get your lines sorted out. This all being said, I fealt the devils run in the playoffs was due to their depth from the farm and the engery that brought into our forchecking system. I think the mold is rolling 4 lines and having the dept to lose 2-3 players and still plug the holes.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 09:25 AM

i want to see butler called up, and obviously my favorite for the year josefson to be healthy. we'll see how it works out. hope they scrap sykora, i'd rather see the kids come up, they have an upside for a short season and will be fresher in the deeper playoffs than sykora was.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:06 AM

Just stumbled across Sykora talking to the Ledger about coming back. Should be interesting to see if he does and if a short season helps or hurts him. My primary concern is the areas where Parise excelled; "garbage goals" (really just owning the crease), the forecheck, PK (especially shorthand opportunities), and the shootout. I fealt our identity was owning the boards and crease and having a really aggresive PK that you had to respect for taking you the other way. Short season alot of parts to shuffle so it should be interesting.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:22 AM

If no changes are made to this roster, I would be happy with just making the playoffs this season. Not having Parise is a huge hole to fill on so many levels, I just don't see how they overcome it unless a big trade is in the works.
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