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#241 thefiestygoat

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 06:32 PM

I'd do Josefson and Tallinder for O'Reilly without a second thought, and I'd consider throwing Merril in the deal if Colorado insisted. This is the type of player you make a move like that for. Players like Ryan O'Reilly are NEVER available.

I agree 100%.


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Posted 13 February 2013 - 06:57 PM

I agree 100%.

Pretty much every team would be able to make that offer though. We'd probably have to give up someone like Larsson to get their attention plus that. Look what the Flyers got for Carter and Richards who were both on worse contracts than what RoR's gonna get and were a few years older. Without Larsson, every team could match JJ and Tallinder and Merrill and Gelinas and whoever else. The Leafs could say oh we'll trade Morgan Rielly and then we have no chance outside of Larsson which I wouldn't do 


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Posted 13 February 2013 - 07:02 PM

I agree 100%.
Pretty much every team would be able to make that offer though. We'd probably have to give up someone like Larsson to get their attention plus that. Look what the Flyers got for Carter and Richards who were both on worse contracts than what RoR's gonna get and were a few years older. Without Larsson, every team could match JJ and Tallinder and Merrill and Gelinas and whoever else. The Leafs could say oh we'll trade Morgan Rielly and then we have no chance outside of Larsson which I wouldn't do 

. Yeah Larsson's a non-starter. I wouldn't trade Larsson or Henrique for anyone. They're the two young untouchables.
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 07:56 PM

Being reported by TG and Chere on twitter that Lou has called a conference call at 8:15! Can't wait to see what huge news (or not huge at all) is going down! :P


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Posted 13 February 2013 - 07:58 PM

Oh Boy!!!


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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:00 PM

Probably about Zubrus.


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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:03 PM

I'm split between: Announcing Zubrus is out for the year or announcing a significant trade. Going with a Zubrus update though and it probably meaning some really bad news.


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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:08 PM

Zubrus is out, Bruce Driver will replace him.


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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:08 PM

Why wouldn't he just wait until tomorrow if this is an update on Zubrus?  Weird!


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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:11 PM

Oh Boy!!

 

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Hearing rumors of Alexei Ponikarovsky's trade out of WPG. NJD perhaps? Checking.


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Posted 13 February 2013 - 09:44 PM

Toronto Sun: Ryan O'Reilly denied captaincy by Avalanche

http://www.torontosu...cy-by-avalanche

 

Contract negotiations between 22-year-old centre and the team he led in points last season have broken off as of Wednesday.

According to the Denver Post, the biggest reason for the impasse is
money. The Avs offered O’Reilly a five-year $17 million deal — the first
of that length since Paul Stastny's 2008 deal — but it wasn't enough.


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Posted 13 February 2013 - 09:51 PM

Arnott and Niedermayer held out the same year.  And the Devils went to the Cup Finals that year. 
 
Columbus has a lot of work to do to get good.  They have to throw out a lot of bad contracts.  That Jack Johnson deal has to be first on the chopping block though I don't know who is stupid enough to take that on.


I keep forgetting that too but they could simply buy him out this summer
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 09:57 PM

So Karlsson is gonna be out long term with an Achilles injury. Any forwards interest you?
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 09:58 PM

Chris Neil but that's not happening


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Posted 13 February 2013 - 10:02 PM

Milan Michalek but that's not happening. Sens are going to look for something offensively with Spezza and Karlsson out. I don't think we have that.


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Posted 13 February 2013 - 10:02 PM

So since we have even more depth with Poni I can honestly see Lou making a legit offer for O'Reilly. Tallinder - Josefson and maybe another piece.


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Posted 13 February 2013 - 11:21 PM

So since we have even more depth with Poni I can honestly see Lou making a legit offer for O'Reilly. Tallinder - Josefson and maybe another piece.

guesstimating ROR would be in the $3.75-5 Mil range... here's are the RFA draft pick compensation figures for the 2012-13 season:

$1,110,249 or below – No Compensation
Over $1,110,249 to $1,682,194 – 3rd round pick
Over $1,682,194 to $3,364,391 – 2nd round pick
Over $3,364,391 to $5,046,585 – 1st round pick, 3rd

Over $5,046,585 to $6,728,781 – 1st round pick, 2nd, 3rd
Over $6,728,781 To $8,410,976 – Two 1st Round Picks, 2nd, 3rd
Over $8,410,976 – Four 1st Round Picks


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Posted 13 February 2013 - 11:31 PM

So since we have even more depth with Poni I can honestly see Lou making a legit offer for O'Reilly. Tallinder - Josefson and maybe another piece.

 

the other piece better be Larsson or every decent prospect we have or they're laughing. Literally any other team can outdo JJ and Tallinder. Why do they want Tallinder anyway? They're awful and will be for awhile esp w/o RoR


 

I keep forgetting that too but they could simply buy him out this summer

 

Johnson's signed forever. And he's pretty much all they got for Carter so they'll sit there with the egg on their face and keep him 


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Posted 14 February 2013 - 12:48 AM

the other piece better be Larsson or every decent prospect we have or they're laughing. Literally any other team can outdo JJ and Tallinder. Why do they want Tallinder anyway? They're awful and will be for awhile esp w/o RoR  

1. They need to get something for ROR, otherwise there is no way they improve this year.
2. Tallinder is actually a good defensemen who can help younger kids and is affordable. Unfortunately he's not working out hay great in this system and has been plagued with injuries since coming here.
3. JJ is a young center who is already great defensively. Furthermore, after showing some really steady offensive production at the AHL level there is promise that he can do it in the coming years at the NHL level.
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 06:00 AM

Arnott and Niedermayer held out the same year.  And the Devils went to the Cup Finals that year. 

 

Columbus has a lot of work to do to get good.  They have to throw out a lot of bad contracts.  That Jack Johnson deal has to be first on the chopping block though I don't know who is stupid enough to take that on.

Well, if the Avs gave up Shattenkirk and Stewart for Erik Johnson, I could see them making another "brilliant" move and sending O'Reilly to Columbus in exchange for Johnson and one of their forward prospects.


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