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[Daniel]

We should see what we would need to give up to pick up Nino Niederreiter.

The Isles have apparently already said that they are not trading him, although we've heard that story before. However, it never hurts to kick the tires, and for our purposes, it's just for fun. I would imagine that the Isles would ask for Merrill or Josefson. If he got off to good start, you might counter with Tedenby and Gelinas or Urbom. You never want to get burned selling low on a 20 year old top five draft pick, so I think the Isles are going to demand a lot if someone comes knocking. They learned things the hard way giving up on Luongo, Chara and, in effect, Spezza.

In any event, I'm not a talent evaluator, so I couldn't tell you whether Niederreiter is overrated at this point.

[DH26]

The Isles have apparently already said that they are not trading him, although we've heard that story before. However, it never hurts to kick the tires, and for our purposes, it's just for fun. I would imagine that the Isles would ask for Merrill or Josefson. If he got off to good start, you might counter with Tedenby and Gelinas or Urbom. You never want to get burned selling low on a 20 year old top five draft pick, so I think the Isles are going to demand a lot if someone comes knocking. They learned things the hard way giving up on Luongo, Chara and, in effect, Spezza.

In any event, I'm not a talent evaluator, so I couldn't tell you whether Niederreiter is overrated at this point.

Luongo/Chara/Spezza/McCabe/whoever else was just milbury's stupidity and not them giving up or anything based on anyone else. That list can go on forever just based on his stupidity. You could also include guys like Dany Heatley, who the Isles passed on in favor of DiPietro

But if they ask for Merrill/Josefson I dunno how you could take that. The guy, even though he was buried last year, still only scored 1 goal. He obviously has talent as he's shown in the AHL but I'm not giving up an asset like Merrill for Nino based on what he's done so far in the NHL. Teddy+Urbom I'd think about w/ the glut of defensemen we have

Edited by DH26, 23 January 2013 - 11:54 AM.

[TheMazz]

Luongo/Chara/Spezza/McCabe/whoever else was just milbury's stupidity and not them giving up or anything based on anyone else. That list can go on forever just based on his stupidity. You could also include guys like Dany Heatley, who the Isles passed on in favor of DiPietro

But if they ask for Merrill/Josefson I dunno how you could take that. The guy, even though he was buried last year, still only scored 1 goal. He obviously has talent as he's shown in the AHL but I'm not giving up an asset like Merrill for Nino based on what he's done so far in the NHL. Teddy+Urbom I'd think about w/ the glut of defensemen we have

I wouldn't trade Urbom. Every time he's made the big club he's impressed me and seems like he can be a serviceable NHL player.

Tedenby though I would get rid of in a heartbeat. (To think we could have had Carlson) He's disappointed me. So much potential, a good first year and has fallen off since then. I really hope he finds his form. Otherwise I think a package of Teddy + a second should do it for Nino.

[Triumph]

I'd trade Merrill and Tallinder for Niederreiter in a second. Niederreiter is tearing up the AHL as a 20 year old and could certainly play in the NHL right now, plus he has 5 more years after this one before he is a UFA.

[TheMazz]

I'd trade Merrill and Tallinder for Niederreiter in a second. Niederreiter is tearing up the AHL as a 20 year old and could certainly play in the NHL right now, plus he has 5 more years after this one before he is a UFA.

Way to much. All that for someone who...while has tons of potential and is a top prospect is still unproven? Merrill and a pick alone should get that done and even then I'm uncomfortable. Potential only gets you so far.

Edited by TheMazz, 23 January 2013 - 12:25 PM.

[SterioDesign]

Yeah, the new contracts are going to be cap anchors. No more $6.5M cap superstars. Of course those had their pitfalls (and had some more added), but the new deals, you're gonna get cracked over the head from day 1 on. People (especially fans of other teams) that are surprised by the Zajac contract are going to be in for a shock in July.

yeah this exactly, people are comparing zajac to other players with old contracts not based on the new rules.

[Marshall]

I don't know if the Isles would take Merrill to start with. I mean, they have to know that the risk of him waiting until he's a UFA is quite substantial.

[ghdi]

Stephen Weiss is a healthy scratch in Florida. Some are buzzing about trade speculation. I wonder if this is the Luongo deal, and I think Florida would be stupid to trade Weiss.

[Triumph]

He's hurt. The only speculators I've seen on that score are idiots.

[DH26]

He's hurt. The only speculators I've seen on that score are idiots.

I saw somebody random tweet he was healthy and say "START THE SPECULATION" Then LeBrun clearly said he was hurt. So yeah he's hurt. they're not gonna trade probably their best forward

[DH26]

Well Jamie Benn resigned 5yrs 5.25AAV

[thefiestygoat]

Have to imagine Ryan O'Reilly isn't far behind since he came back from Russia. Seems like the only troublesome situation is Subban's.

[grcenter47]

Mike Knuble signed with the Flyers for a one year contract courtesy of ESPN and NHL Network

http://espn.go.com/n...adelphia-flyers

[thefiestygoat]

@DarrenDreger

"Veteran free agent Jason Arnott believed to be en route to NYC. Rangers and Arnott exploring mutural interest in signing. #TSN"

It would pain me to see Arnott in Rangers colors.

[DH26]

@DarrenDreger

"Veteran free agent Jason Arnott believed to be en route to NYC. Rangers and Arnott exploring mutural interest in signing. #TSN"

It would pain me to see Arnott in Rangers colors.

and per Dreger he already just signed for $1.6-1.7m

Edited by DH26, 26 January 2013 - 05:44 PM.

[MadDog2020]

Arnott's a Ranger. That annoys me a little.

[Satans Hockey]

Arnott's a Ranger. That annoys me a little.

[thefiestygoat]

Subban finally signs:

https://twitter.com/LouisJean_TVA

"Great news, PK Subban signs with #Canadiens."

"Contract details for PK Subban deal: 2million in year 1 & 3.75 in year 2."

Just a $2.875M cap hit.

Edited by thefiestygoat, 28 January 2013 - 07:30 PM.

[DH26]

Subban finally signs:

https://twitter.com/LouisJean_TVA

"Great news, PK Subban signs with #Canadiens."

"Contract details for PK Subban deal: 2million in year 1 & 3.75 in year 2."

Just a $2.875M cap hit.

and when his contract's up, he's still RFA for one more year

[thefiestygoat]

I wasn't sure where to put this exactly so I figured this would be the appropriate thread. O'Reilly and the Avs are still having trouble reaching a new deal. The rumor is that they are open to trading him for "a young forward and 2nd." Now the arrival of Loktionov is great and I think it could work out real well for the Devils but I think it is way too early to think about trading a player like Josefson just because of Loktionov's addition. However, O'Reilly is a real solid 2 way player and has a lot more of a scoring touch then Josefson.

 

Josefson C will turn 22 in March and is listed at 6'1 190. NHL: 75 GP 5-15-20 +11 12 PIM

O'Reilly C will turns 22 today and is listed at 6'0 200. NHL: 236 GP 39-68-107 -4 46 PIM Plus here are 2 articles that speak highly of O'Reilly:

http://www.hockeypro...ache=1357843649

http://www.pensionpl...et-ryan-oreilly

 

Would you be willing to trade a package based around Josefson and a 2nd for O'Reilly? I would but I'm not sure if that would be enough to get it done but the Devils have a lot defensive depth to help sweeten the deal if need be. I know this isn't likely but I find trade discussions are always fun.

Edited by thefiestygoat, 07 February 2013 - 12:29 AM.