As per Nick Kypreo:
"With new agreement, 1st buyout window will start prior 2 season opener. 2nd one remains in summer. Cap hit stays 4 rest of this season only"
Honestly, if he's willing to take the vet minimum (or near that), I'd love to have him back. He's not a scorer (we all knew that when he went to the Rags), but, prior to last season, he's had nearly 50 assists 5 years in a row:
http://www.tsn.ca/nh...?id=1356#career
Start the Gomez-to-NJ rumors
Started by hoekster316, Jan 15 2013 02:50 PM
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 02:50 PM
Got Bling?
“I asked him, ‘So, what are you going to do?’” Kovalchuk said. “He said, ‘Fight you’ and I said, ‘OK.’"
“I asked him, ‘So, what are you going to do?’” Kovalchuk said. “He said, ‘Fight you’ and I said, ‘OK.’"
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 02:54 PM
Did you not see the 3 page Gomez thread right above this? lol
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 02:55 PM
Scottt Gomez ! lol would laugh if he can produce
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 02:56 PM
Obviously you're not a bowler.Did you not see the 3 page Gomez thread right above this? lol
Got Bling?
“I asked him, ‘So, what are you going to do?’” Kovalchuk said. “He said, ‘Fight you’ and I said, ‘OK.’"
“I asked him, ‘So, what are you going to do?’” Kovalchuk said. “He said, ‘Fight you’ and I said, ‘OK.’"
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 03:03 PM
Obviously you're not a bowler.
I'm a bowler, but I'm still not getting it.
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 03:07 PM
Problem is we don't need centers. We need wings
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 03:10 PM
The Devils love bringing back guys like this... and I think he would do pretty well. The only problem is that we don't really need another center. It's not worth stunting Josefson or Henriques development at center... but then again should our # 2 and 3 centers be so young?
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 03:12 PM
Shift Henrique to wing.
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 03:14 PM
Problem is we don't need centers. We need wings
Don't see how this is a problem. It's not like it's illegal to move a center to the wing, it's pretty common practice. Henrique/Elias and Gomez would be moved to the left wing. Top 3 centers are still Zajac-Elias/Henrique-Josefson.
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 04:13 PM
Don't see how this is a problem. It's not like it's illegal to move a center to the wing, it's pretty common practice. Henrique/Elias and Gomez would be moved to the left wing. Top 3 centers are still Zajac-Elias/Henrique-Josefson.
This. Plus, with Gomez's speed declining the past few years, a shift to wing would be better for him.
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 04:49 PM
This is not and will not be happening. I'd be willing to bet something on it. I just don't see any need, maybe Lou might see something we don't but i seriously doubt he's even looking.
"THREW ONE IN FRONT IT’S BLOCKED THERE, SCRAMBLE FOR IT THERE THEY POKE AWAY AT IT, STILL ITS LOOSE, POKED AT BY KOVALCHUK-
THEY SCOOOOOOOOOREEEEEEE!!!!! HENRIQUE!! ITS OVER!!”
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 04:53 PM
This is not and will not be happening. I'd be willing to bet something on it. I just don't see any need, maybe Lou might see something we don't but i seriously doubt he's even looking.
You don't see any need for a playmaking forward in NJ?
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 05:03 PM
You don't see any need for a playmaking forward in NJ?
of course there's a need for a playmaker, but is that seriously Gomez? Did we not learn from Rolston? A lot of people like to be nostalgic and want players back (Rolston, Shanahan, Holik, Dowd in 06, hell Janssen) and what we think will be a 'good fit' or 'locker room presence' actually winds up hurting productivity. If it was anyone besides Gomez, i might consider it, but the numbers don't lie:
2010-11: 7 goals(31 A[decent]) in 80 GP
2011-12: 2 goals(9 A) in 38 GP
When he was younger he used to be capable of 45-70 assists years while still having a decent amount of goals, and he's only been declining more and more. He's 33 now. I just don't think he's the best option right now.
Edited by RunninWithTheDevil, 15 January 2013 - 05:04 PM.
"THREW ONE IN FRONT IT’S BLOCKED THERE, SCRAMBLE FOR IT THERE THEY POKE AWAY AT IT, STILL ITS LOOSE, POKED AT BY KOVALCHUK-
THEY SCOOOOOOOOOREEEEEEE!!!!! HENRIQUE!! ITS OVER!!”
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 05:04 PM
You don't see any need for a playmaking forward in NJ?
There is....when you bring up a name of a playmaking forward I'll talk about having interest in him
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 05:05 PM
There is....when you bring up a name of a playmaking forward I'll talk about having interest in him
this basically
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 05:26 PM
of course there's a need for a playmaker, but is that seriously Gomez? Did we not learn from Rolston? A lot of people like to be nostalgic and want players back (Rolston, Shanahan, Holik, Dowd in 06, hell Janssen) and what we think will be a 'good fit' or 'locker room presence' actually winds up hurting productivity. If it was anyone besides Gomez, i might consider it, but the numbers don't lie:
2010-11: 7 goals(31 A[decent]) in 80 GP
2011-12: 2 goals(9 A) in 38 GP
When he was younger he used to be capable of 45-70 assists years while still having a decent amount of goals, and he's only been declining more and more. He's 33 now. I just don't think he's the best option right now.
Rolston has nothing to do with this conversation. Nobody is saying that we should sign Gomez for 5 mil/per for way too many years. We are talking about a cheap, 1 year deal. Low risk. Even if he bombs, it's not a major loss. But there's a decent chance that he could be a good fit. Obviously he is not going to put up 50+ assists, and that's fine. If he can score around 40 points playing 3rd line minutes and distributing the puck on the 2nd PP unit, that would be a steal. I'm not saying he's the ideal pick up, but he would be a low-risk signing that could help fill in our forward depth.
If you see a better UFA forward who would be cheap and provide what Gomez can, let me know. Otherwise, we just have to hope that Lou can work his magic and find us a good trade. Personally, I say we take our chances and sign Gomez (along with looking at trade options).
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 05:31 PM
Rolston has nothing to do with this conversation. Nobody is saying that we should sign Gomez for 5 mil/per for way too many years. We are talking about a cheap, 1 year deal. Low risk. Even if he bombs, it's not a major loss. But there's a decent chance that he could be a good fit. Obviously he is not going to put up 50+ assists, and that's fine. If he can score around 40 points playing 3rd line minutes and distributing the puck on the 2nd PP unit, that would be a steal. I'm not saying he's the ideal pick up, but he would be a low-risk signing that could help fill in our forward depth.
If you see a better UFA forward who would be cheap and provide what Gomez can, let me know. Otherwise, we just have to hope that Lou can work his magic and find us a good trade. Personally, I say we take our chances and sign Gomez (along with looking at trade options).
All valid points, i wasn't necessarily talking about Rolstons terrible contract just the general overestimating former players who wind up coming back to do nothing but skate around a few minutes a game and occasionally hit the back of the net. This is essentially the same team as last year save for a few people. This team is going to be thirsty this year after what happened, and imo i just don't think Gomez has that drive in him anymore. I could be wrong but i don't know if it will happen.
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 05:32 PM
It'd be like the Sykora signing of last year. Might work better if we had a full camp to see
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 05:34 PM
2010-11: 7 goals(31 A[decent]) in 80 GP <------ these numbers would not be bad on our team
2011-12: 2 goals(9 A) in 38 GP <---------- these numbers are better than jj's were last year
as was said before with a contract like sykora had last year it is worth a shot
2011-12: 2 goals(9 A) in 38 GP <---------- these numbers are better than jj's were last year
as was said before with a contract like sykora had last year it is worth a shot
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 05:36 PM
Problem is we don't need centers. We need wings
Henrique is currently injured, Zajac spent most of last year injured and Josefson is always injured. Adding Gomez gives us depth and allows Elias to fill the hole at LW.
Gomez is absolutely a playmaker. One of his biggest problems was that he was never a scorer and fans in NY and Montreal expected that given his bloated contract.
I typically hate when Lou bring guys back for a second time and I wasn't a big Gomez fan the first time around but I think this could be a good move if Lou can get him cheap on a 1 year deal.
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