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Posted 16 October 2013 - 11:11 AM

Cribbs is a solid signing (if healthy) because he can finally bring back the element that we lost with Brad Smith. He can be a wildcat runner or thrower...heck even as just a pure route running receiver he's probably better than Gates.

 

Don't have much of a feel for this game. I have to guess MM will come out and really attack the Pats D aggressively especially if Talib is out (Mayo might be out too...then again they both might play)

 

Both teams are very wounded coming in. I sort of fear Brady will just go ahead and morph Austin Collie into Welker v.3 or something

 

Would be nice if Milliner played


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 11:23 AM

Cribbs is a solid signing (if healthy) because he can finally bring back the element that we lost with Brad Smith. He can be a wildcat runner or thrower...heck even as just a pure route running receiver he's probably better than Gates.

 

Don't have much of a feel for this game. I have to guess MM will come out and really attack the Pats D aggressively especially if Talib is out (Mayo might be out too...then again they both might play)

 

Both teams are very wounded coming in. I sort of fear Brady will just go ahead and morph Austin Collie into Welker v.3 or something

 

Would be nice if Milliner played

 

Mayo is out for the season...torn pectoral muscle.

 

Don't know what Talib's status is. 


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 07:58 AM

Cribbs is a solid signing (if healthy) because he can finally bring back the element that we lost with Brad Smith. He can be a wildcat runner or thrower...heck even as just a pure route running receiver he's probably better than Gates. 

 

Well, it seems like he's got a chip on his shoulder..

 

http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/article-5/Josh-Cribbs-Enjoying-His-Rebirth-as-a-Jet/9e4982f0-018f-4e6b-83f1-e75cf06ee516

 

I’m finally healthy now, 110%. 111% really, and I’m ready to be used any way that they need me. I want to hear all the naysayers. I’m trying to hear that, because I use it for motivation. I’ve been working hard. Keep talking.. please, because I’m going to get the job done. I picked up some weight through the years, muscle mass. So if somebody’s fast enough to catch up to me, they ain’t going to be strong enough to bring me down. That’s kind of my motto. I’m going to run through arm tackles. I’m going to run through kickers. You’ve got to put a body on me to bring me down. You're going to have to. I’m not going to be a fast small guy. If you’re fast enough to bring me down, that’s half the battle.” --Josh Cribbs


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 02:57 PM

Nice of stonehands Cumberland making his return this week :argh:

 

Our defense against Brady in the final two minutes = total mismatch.  But at least they played better than I thought they would, particularly in the second half.


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 03:12 PM

Oh well...I'll take my chances with OT given how quickly they got inside the 30.  I almost forgot about the new rules, I don't think the Jets have been in an OT since they had that 'guaranteed possession except for a TD' addition.


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 03:31 PM

lol that was a BRUTAL call but with all the breaks the Pats usually get (and the ones we don't) I'll take it :P


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 03:35 PM

I think Dierdorf said that's a new rule.


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 03:36 PM

lol that was a BRUTAL call but with all the breaks the Pats usually get (and the ones we don't) I'll take it :P

 

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 03:38 PM

I mean yeah it's a rule but I could barely tell he pushed him.  It's usually the kind of bizarre 'who knew that rule existed' call the Pats get (tuck rule, anyone?) :P

 

Kinda bailed out Rex too for going way too conservative and settling for a 55-yard FG instead of trying to get one more first down.


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 03:40 PM

Reeked of a ticky-tack kind of call, but the Jets played well enough to win and did a hell of a job on Brady, who wasn't helping his own cause with some lousy throws.  His OT throws were absolutely terrible.  BB's D gave him enough opportunities to win the game, and that pick-6 he threw was a killer. 

 

Jets needed this game a little more than the Pats did, but this makes the game against the Dolphins next week a need-to-win for the Pats. 

 

The big question now is can the Jets find some consistency?  Can they string together 2 or 3 wins? 


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 03:48 PM

Reeked of a ticky-tack kind of call, but the Jets played well enough to win and did a hell of a job on Brady, who wasn't helping his own cause with some lousy throws. His OT throws were absolutely terrible. BB's D gave him enough opportunities to win the game, and that pick-6 he threw was a killer.

Jets needed this game a little more than the Pats did, but this makes the game against the Dolphins next week a need-to-win for the Pats.

The big question now is can the Jets find some consistency? Can they string together 2 or 3 wins?


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 03:59 PM

That's the first time in my life I've heard that penalty called. I didn't see the infraction on the replay. I still have no clue what just happened. I know that you can't jump on someone's shoulders or back to spring yourself up to block a kick. Initially I though "pushing into the pile" meant a celebrating Patriot knocked down a Jet.

 

This game really shows what a weapon Gronkowski is. All day the Jets had trouble corralling him. He's a load to bring down. And he was a 1 handed catch away from ending the game.

 

Jeremy Kerley stepped up and played like a #1 today. The game of his life.

 

David Nelson with some tough, clutch catches as well. Forgot he was even on the team...but the Jets got him from the scrap heap and he was pretty freaking good today. Blocking as well

 

Jets with a rare takeaway on D. That was a long time coming.

 

The Jets seem to get the bulk of their pressure in the 3rd Q. By the 4th and OT, NE was back to giving Brady tons of time

 

The Jets never really gashed the NE run defense. There were no big runs, but 4 yards a chunk steadily wore them down. Ivory was great today just slowly grinding the wounded Pats D on that winning drive in overtime. Bohanan was decent when they gave him the rock as well. Powell was likely banged up with the shoulder. Have to say with no Wilfork and Mayo, they preformed admirably.

 

Hated the play call on 3rd down that set up the 56 yarder. You have a 53 yarder at that point, and instead a terrible call loses 3 yards as massive strong side penetration just blew the play up

 

Our o-line still needs some fine tuning. They weren't horrible but they could stand to tighten up a bit

 

Didn't like the push off penalty on the Hill TD catch. Not sure if there was a real pushoff, could've been embellishment.

 

Milliner played pretty good

 

Chandler Jone is going to be a terror for years to come. The Bears are kicking themselves


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 11:18 PM

Amazing victory for Gang Green, in what was really a game that Rex needed to win, in order to justify his continued tenure. A loss to NE would've been 6 in-a-row since the playoff win, and the Jets would've started to look like BB's bitches. Now off the victory, it gives the Jets 5 wins over the last 13 against the Pats since 2008, and restores some sort of respectability back to the rivalry.

*What's Next? -- The Jets got some winnable games left, in the form of: Cleveland, Carolina, Oakland, Buffalo, Miami x2, and even Baltimore. They've also got 2 very difficult games coming up in Cincinnati & New Orleans. I can't see them beating either of those teams.. but who the hell knows with the Jets anymore!? I didn't see them beating NE today or Atlanta two weeks ago, so I don't know what to expect honestly. We'll be getting back both Winslow & Holmes after 2 weeks, so that should be a shot in the arm.. Cribbs looks like he can be a game breaker, and Geno looks better every week.

*What we've learned? -- If Gronkowski's @ 50%.. and we play New England, AT HOME.. strip them of Deion Branch, Wes Welker, Danny Woodhead, Aaron Hernandez, Brandon Lloyd, Visanthe Shiancoe, Daniel Fells, Kellen Winslow, Tim Tebow, Jake Ballard, Zach Sudfeld, Shane Vereen, Danny Amendola, Leon Washington, Jerod Mayo, Vince Wilfork, Tommy Kelly, Aqib Talib, in a 4 month span.. and get a mystifyingly fortunate penalty called in our favor, off a new rule that no one is aware of.. the Jets can barely beat the Patriots by 3 points in overtime!!
Seriously though.. 2 weeks ago I spoke on how only 5 teams in the AFC have more wins than the Jets. Now heading into Week 8.. it still rings true. This team is like a bad cold that just won't go away. If they continue this pace, they'll be in a good position to make the playoffs, either by winning the Division, or squeaking in the last wildcard spot in what has been a lackluster conference. The Jets sit 1 game behind the Pats, with both the head-to-head, and divisional records tied. The Jets will no doubt need help to win the AFC East, in the form of NE choking out some games down the road that they're picked to win. 6 more wins gives the Jets the Division imo.. 5 more may give them the wildcard.. and 4 more gives Rex his extension. Sit tight and hang on to your hats, because this seasons gonna be a nutty one.

Kinda bailed out Rex too for going way too conservative and settling for a 55-yard FG instead of trying to get one more first down.


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 11:22 PM

Man I thought the Broncos would pull that one out.


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 11:42 PM

Amazing victory for Gang Green, in what was really a game that Rex needed to win, in order to justify his continued tenure. A loss to NE would've been 6 in-a-row since the playoff win, and the Jets would've started to look like BB's bitches. Now off the victory, it gives the Jets 5 wins over the last 13 against the Pats since 2008, and restores some sort of respectability back to the rivalry.

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Not an overly pretty number, but with how dominant NE has been, who has done better against them?

 

Buffalo is 1-12 in their last 13. Miami is 3-10

 

also, Cincy just lost Leon Hall for the season. If we can get Holmes back for next week that will be a big boost.

 

Dalton is ok. Can be up and down....but he's also the worst QB we're due to face during this Ryan-Roethlisberger-Brady-Brees buzzsaw. Dalton throws picks, he fumbles...I think Rex can cook some stuff up to force him into some turnovers. Also Cinci is going to have a tough time running on us.


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Posted 21 October 2013 - 06:03 AM

This game really shows what a weapon Gronkowski is. All day the Jets had trouble corralling him. He's a load to bring down. And he was a 1 handed catch away from ending the game.

 

Gronk's numbers (8 rec, 114 yards) look a lot better out of context...until you take into account:

 

1) He was targeted 17 times.  So basically, Brady was for 8-for-17 for 114 yards towards Gronk, with no TD passes...that's not really all that great.  That's 9 plays where the Pats did nothing, with Gronk or anyone else.  This is the equivalent of an NBA shooting guard scoring 25+ points on 33% shooting...it's all based on volume of attempts.  You target someone that many times, it's almost guaranteed he's going to have nice-looking numbers at first glance...Gronk really needed to have 12-13 catches on 17 targets for his day to be considered a truly productive one for his team.  If I'm an NFL coach, and I can gameplan the other team into targetting its top receiver that many times (no, a guy like Gronk is not going to get shut down completely, but the "damage can be managed") where the opponent throws more incomplete passes than completions, I can live with 8 rec for 114 yards, no problem.  There's plenty of games where Brady doesn't have nine incompletions for the game.  8-for-17 with no TD passes to his top target is a win for the opposition.   

 

2) Gronk had a big drop in a big spot.  The fact that he admitted he was angry about not reigning that ball in tells you all you need to know.  The big guy has to make the big play on a catchable ball and he didn't. 

 

And there's no nice way to say it...the Jets did more than their fair share of stopping Brady, but he looked terrible at times yesterday.  Really just a poor effort on his part.  And the "Let me scream at my receivers constantly thing" is really getting old.  Like it or not, you're not blameless in all of this Tom. 


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Posted 21 October 2013 - 07:52 AM

Not an overly pretty number, but with how dominant NE has been, who has done better against them?

 

..the answer is; no one.

Since 2000, the Jets have beaten New England a total of 10 times. --not a number I'm perticulary proud of mind you.. but no other team in the NFL has more wins against the franchise than our Jets. weight_lifter.gif


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Posted 21 October 2013 - 09:22 AM

3 of those 10 wins came before the Patriots were really THESE Patriots...Jets swept in 2000 (against a 5-11 Pats team that was clearly in disarray), then beat the Pats 10-3 in the infamous Mo Lewis/Drew Bledsoe game. 

 

Since then, the Jets have gone 6-19 against the Pats in the regular season, and split two playoff games...they lost in 2006 (technically 2007)(37-16 in the wild card), and won in 2010 (technically 2011) (28-21). 

 

By comparison, the Dolphins have gone 6-17 against the Pats in the same time frame (with two still to play this season). 

 

If you want to include the "before Belichick and Brady really became Belichick and Brady games" in the 2000-on era, then the Jets have gone 10-20 against the Pats since the start of 2000, and the Dolphins are 9-17.  By winning%, Dolphins actually have been slightly better against the Pats. 

 

At any rate, it was pretty obvious that, since the year 2000, that one of the Jets, Dolphins, or Bills would have the most wins against the Pats, by virtue of playing them twice a year (or in the case of the Jets, meeting them in the playoffs to boot).  It's not that big of a deal in the grand scheme.  I'd say both the Jets AND the Dolphins have been aggravating to play against here and there.   

 

That being said, despite the occasional embarrassing losses the Pats have hung on the Jets in the Rex Ryan era, Ryan's Jets have shown an ability to play the Pats tough on occasion, and to frustrate Brady...they won four out of six at one point, peaking with that 28-21 playoff win in Foxborough that was a HUGE win, no matter how you slice it.  Only problem is, the Jets didn't follow up on it until yesterday.    

 

The biggest highlights for the Jets against the Pats in the TB-BB era:

 

Beating them out for the 2002 division title on the common-opponent tiebreaker (forcing the Pats to miss the playoffs one year after winning their first Super Bowl).

Beating them in Foxborough in the playoffs. 


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Posted 21 October 2013 - 10:54 AM

the Jets have gone 10-20 against the Pats since the start of 2000

beaten   2/3 of the time and jets nation feels pride. should tell u all u need to know.


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Posted 21 October 2013 - 11:00 AM

beaten   2/3 of the time and jets nation feels pride. should tell u all u need to know.

 

In their defense, they're now 5-8 against them in the Ryan era, including a road playoff win where they were big underdogs.  Pats have had a much better overall regular season record than the Jets in that time as well.  It's hardly a draw, but based on the expectations of each team, it's closer than 5-8 would lead one to believe.       


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Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
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Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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