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Posted 17 May 2013 - 01:47 PM

signing bonuses

 

I don't think they're going to lose sleep over his 100k signing bonus (which won't even go against the cap)


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Posted 17 May 2013 - 01:56 PM

lol 2 funny. thats 2 signings now that have been a wa$te of money for the jets in garard and goodson

 

..that's what happens when you have 12 players tied to 2 positions. (Geno, Simms, Garrard, Tebow, McElroy, Sanchez, Goodson, Powell, McKnight, Ivory & Griffin) I'm all for healthy competition, but what Idzik is doing is over-saturation.. and by sole attrition, it's taking care of itself. I'll give him a mulligan thus far, being that he's still relatively new to the gig.. but if he has any brains going forward, he'll leave the QB\RB position(s) well enough alone.

Sadly, I fear I'm wrong.. and the Garrard\Goodson replacements in the form of; Bradshaw, Young, Hillis, etc, are already under way.
 

I don't think they're going to lose sleep over his 100k signing bonus (which won't even go against the cap)
 


..yeah, the money's not the issue. My gripe is the infatuation with outside guys being brought in, who've done NOTHING with this team. Meanwhile good soilders like Sanchez, McKnight, Braylon, etc.. whom actually WANT to be here, are being chased out. --that don't jive with me.


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Posted 11 June 2013 - 09:15 PM

..good article.

http://www.newsday.c...-jets-1.5461571

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Originally published: Tuesday - June 11, 2013 8:47 PM _ Updated: 9:50 PM
By KIMBERLEY A. MARTIN kimberley.martin@newsday.com (Follow Kimberly on Twitter)

FLORHAM PARK, N.J. - Kellen Winslow Jr. bristled a bit Tuesday when asked about the trajectory of his once-promising career. For all his talent, the former 6th overall pick in 2004 now finds himself here: on a minicamp tryout with the New York Jets, and in desperate need of work. But by no means does Winslow, still just 29, believe he's past his prime. And any insinuation that he hasn't lived up to his potential won't be taken lightly.
"Yeah, I don't like that question," the tight-end said, long after a crowd of reporters had dispersed. "I mean, I've had a productive career. That's just how it goes sometimes. It's out of your control. I did well in Seattle when I was there in camp. My last full season in 2011, I caught 75 balls. Sometimes, it just comes down to money and you can't do anything about it. That's just how it goes." Winslow, a former Pro Bowl player with five seasons of at least 65 catches or more, believes he has "years left" in the NFL. But he has just days to impress the Jets. He looked good earlier today catching two passes in Tuesday's practice, but it's much too early to tell if the Jets will sign him. "Obviously, Kellen Winslow was a tremendous player in this league for a long time -- one of the premier receiving tight ends in the game," coach Rex Ryan said. "So we'll see how he responds. It's going to be recovery more than anything else, how healthy he is."
Winslow said he feels good physically. But only time will tell how he responds to the Jets' minicamp regimen and Marty Mornhinweg's West Coast system. "I'm really excited," he said of the opportunity. "I've just got to learn the offense. I'm used to some of the terminology, but some of it's different. It'll take me some time, but I'll get there."
Winslow compiled nearly 2,000 receiving yards with the Browns in just two seasons in Cleveland, from 2006 to 2007. He put up respectable numbers during the next few years in Tampa Bay too, but Winslow said the Buccaneers' losing record during his tenure (17-31) overshadowed his productivity. He was traded to Seattle in May 2012 but was released after he declined to take a paycut. In September, he signed with the New England Patriots, but after playing in just one game, he said he asked to be released. "It was a great spot, and I respect the heck out of them for it." said Winslow, whose father is a Hall of Fame tight end. "But it was going to be hard for me. I didn't go through training camp with them. I went through training camp with the Seahawks. The Pats have Gronkowski, they've got Hernandez, so where did I fit in?"
Winslow had hoped he'd find a better situation
in 2012 after leaving New England, "But I didn't get picked up last year." he said. "Yeah, it was shocking. But it just makes me more hungry."
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Posted 24 July 2013 - 03:08 PM

Braylon Edwards at the Jets facility taking a physical...

 

hopefully he checks out ok and they sign him.

 

I doubt we'll see Holmes until week 3 or so


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Posted 24 July 2013 - 05:21 PM

Braylon Edwards at the Jets facility taking a physical...

hopefully he checks out ok and they sign him.

 

Depending on how healthy Santonio is (and how much time he misses if any) I’m more confident going into this season with Braylon than without him. If everyone’s healthy you’re looking @ Holmes, Kerley, Edwards, Hill, Winslow & Cumberland as the weapons for Sanchez.. with Ivory, Goodson, McKnight & Powell in the backfield. Far from amazing, but not nearly as horrible as last season’s squad of; Clyde Gates, Konrad Reuland, Marty Gilyard, Chaz Schilens, Patrick Turner, and Derrick Epps.

I’ve always maintained that Bray’s magnetism\harmony with Sanchez was what made them so great playing together. When looking at Braylon Edwards career, and the group of quarterbacks he’s played with (outside of Sanchez) you got: Ken Dorsey, Brady Quinn, Derek Anderson, Richard Bartel, Russell Wilson, Tim Tebow, Greg McElroy, and Alex Smith. Edwards has a real chance here to resurrect not only his own career, but potentially salvage Sanchez as well.

 

Oct 12, 2009;  -This was Braylon's debut game as a Jet on MNF vs. Miami, and he saved the most amazing TD catch of his career for it.

 

Dec 19, 2010;  -Jets vs. Pittsburgh. This was Edwards best season as a Jet. He had nearly 1,000 yrds, and 7 TD's. I remember this game because he was absolutely uncoverable! There was nothing the Steelers could do to stop him. He finished the night with 100 yrds, and 8 first downs!

 

Jan 16, 2011;  -The image of Edwards dragging 2 Patriots with him into the endzone is not only one of my favorite Braylon Edwards moments.. but one of my favorite Jets moments of all time. You know the rest.. Jets beat the Pats, and advance to their 2nd consecutive Championship game.

 

Dec 17, 2012;  -Bray’s first game back after being reaquired against the Titans on MNF. He finishes the night with 50 yrds on 3 catches (playing roughly only around the offensive plays) @ about 60% healthy, battling a hamstring.. off 3 days of reps, practice, and learning a new playbook.

 

July 24, 2013.. JETS BRING BACK THE BEARD!!!  :rock: 

 

..fixed!


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Posted 24 July 2013 - 06:54 PM

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When looking at Braylon Edwards career, and the group of quarterbacks he’s played with (outside of Sanchez) you got: Ken Dorsey, Brady Quinn, Derek Anderson, Richard Bartel, Russell Wilson, Tim Tebow, Greg McElroy, and Alex Smith.

add geno smith to that list to
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Posted 24 July 2013 - 07:35 PM

add geno smith to that list to


You're probably right! It's so sad. 10 quarterbacks in a 5 year span. --and look at the quality at that! I would've loved to have seen what Braylon would've\could've done if he played with a Roethlisberger or Brees.
He's one of the greats, and he never had the chance to play with a great QB.
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Posted 24 July 2013 - 08:22 PM

ez brah. edwards was never 1 of the games greats. he had 1 very good season. theres many a player that can say the same
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Posted 24 July 2013 - 09:09 PM

ez brah. edwards was never 1 of the games greats. he had 1 very good season. theres many a player that can say the same


I meant one of the greats for the JETS.. not the league.
Like it or lump it, when you include his postseason numbers, the guy's got nearly 2,000 yrds and 13 TD's, in 37 games for NY. And even if you take away the playoff stats out of the equation, and base his numbers solely off the regular-season.. only 14 WR's in Jets history have more touchdowns than Edwards, and they've all played WAY more games.

He's a Top 10 WR in franchise history.. and anyone who disagrees, shoot me a legitimate argument of someone better not named: Maynard, Toon, Chrebet, Sauer, Walker, Coles, or Keyshawn.
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Posted 24 July 2013 - 11:07 PM

Edwards and Winslow are the only reason Derek Anderson saw a pro bowl

 

Edwards isn't great, he has his issues with drops and is only OK when it comes to getting open...but he's tall (6'3) and has freakish leaping ability, will make the circus catches and is very difficult to bring down in the open field once he gets the legs churning. He'll also be the tall redzone threat we were missing last season. Should make things a lot easier on whoever is throwing the ball.

 

Once Holmes gets back Kerley can go back to his natural position...slot receiver. He was forced to play on the outside far too much last season

 

Not sure what to expect out of Hill. He's sort of a boom or bust prospect


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Posted 24 July 2013 - 11:17 PM

I meant one of the greats for the JETS.. not the league.
Like it or lump it, when you include his postseason numbers, the guy's got nearly 2,000 yrds and 13 TD's, in 37 games for NY. And even if you take away the playoff stats out of the equation, and base his numbers solely off the regular-season.. only 14 WR's in Jets history have more touchdowns than Edwards, and they've all played WAY more games.

He's a Top 10 WR in franchise history.. and anyone who disagrees, shoot me a legitimate argument of someone better not named: Maynard, Toon, Chrebet, Sauer, Walker, Coles, or Keyshawn.

 

Cotchery had a better career as a Jet, though Edwards is the more talented player


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Posted 25 July 2013 - 08:02 AM

I was hoping we could grab Edwards. We committed Offensive suicide trading Boldin.
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Posted 25 July 2013 - 10:33 PM

I was hoping we could grab Edwards. We committed Offensive suicide trading Boldin.


Edwards is a clear upgrade over what we had.
What's concerning me going into the season is the chemistry between the newer players. There have been some major wholesale changes that this team has undergone this offseason..

Dustin Keller -- Kellen Winslow
Tim Tebow -- Geno Smith
Darrelle Revis -- Dee Milliner
LaRon Landry -- Dawan Landry
Sione Pouha -- Sheldon Richardson
Bart Scott -- Antwan Barnes
Shonn Greene -- Chris Ivory
Chaz Schilens -- Braylon Edwards
Mike DeVito -- Ricky Sapp
Tony Sparano -- Marty Mornhinweg

I can't kill Izdik with the supplementing he did thus-far. Alot of players he just didn't have a choice in the matter.. and to be honest, some positions look like clear upgrades to me. You also have side projects to look at when judging the team; like having Coples move to LB, reducing Pace's role, and the possibility of Geno Smith in the pistol as a change of pace.
..all in all, very difficult to gage this upcoming season.
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Posted 28 July 2013 - 06:42 PM

Beezer the Jets clearly upgraded this off season. Curious how long the NY media makes Rex genuflect and pull Sanchez for a rookie.
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Posted 28 July 2013 - 09:55 PM

Randy Lange ‏@rlangejets
The Jets have agreed to terms on a contract with 1st-round draft choice Dee Milliner. Dee is expected to report to SUNY Cortland Monday.

 

 

Outstanding, and only missed 3 days of camp


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Posted 29 July 2013 - 07:38 AM

..yeah, this kid has all the tools to make it. I hope he picks it all up quickly.

 

 

Dustin Keller -- Kellen Winslow
Tim Tebow -- Geno Smith
Darrelle Revis -- Dee Milliner
LaRon Landry -- Dawan Landry
Sione Pouha -- Sheldon Richardson
Bart Scott -- Antwan Barnes
Shonn Greene -- Chris Ivory
Chaz Schilens -- Braylon Edwards
Mike DeVito -- Ricky Sapp
Tony Sparano -- Marty Mornhinweg

 

Beezer the Jets clearly upgraded this off season. Curious how long the NY media makes Rex genuflect and pull Sanchez for a rookie.

 

 

I'm not saying you're wrong.. some positions absolutely jump out at me. My concern is chemistry\transition. If everything goes right, I think the Jets can definitely surprise people this season.


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Posted 29 July 2013 - 08:36 PM

..yeah, this kid has all the tools to make it. I hope he picks it all up quickly.

 

 

 

 

I'm not saying you're wrong.. some positions absolutely jump out at me. My concern is chemistry\transition. If everything goes right, I think the Jets can definitely surprise people this season.

 

I don't think there's a chance that they finish lower than top 5 or 6 in run defense, and while that's not half the battle it is a good 30% of it or so.

 

Geno has looked good in camp thus far. So has Stephen Hill

 

Clyde Gates has also been an early surprise


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Posted 31 July 2013 - 02:10 PM

Looks like the; Wildcat\Read’Option\Pistol\Change-of-Pace QB.. is coming back for 2013..

 

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http://www.newyorkjets.com/photos-and-videos/videos/731-Rex-Wildcat-is-Here-to-Stay/257e6379-2735-4d75-a2bc-61b30c688ab5 

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jets/2013/07/rex-ryan-says-jets-will-run-more-wildcat-this-year

 

We probably are going to use a lot of it this season. [the wildcat] I would say that’s part of what we do. Teams are getting these QB's now. These mobile quarterbacks with size, speed, all that type of stuff, so I would say the read-option is here to stay. It’s a great equalizer. It does give you the numbers back. Sometimes on defense you’re playing with plus one. We got Dave [David Lee] who brought the package to the NFL on our staff as Quarterback Coach. He’s been a big contributor, and that’s what you love about Marty [Mornhinweg] also. He takes the knowledge he has, and he’s very knowledgeable about it, but then he takes his staff and he collects information from everybody. We’ve done it with Brad Smith and Jeremy Kerley in the past, so it doesn’t necessarily have to be the quarterback. But the fact that it is the quarterback I think sometimes is even better than having a running back type guy do it. This is the reason why I think the Tebow package didn’t work last season. If you’re going to have a quarterback that has those skills, like a Kaepernick or somebody like that, then obviously it becomes more of a weapon, because you’re defending the pass. You’re not just knowing that Tebow’s going in and he’s just going to run the ball. That’s kind of where we were last year it seemed like.” --Rex Ryan

Ryan was throwing offensive coordinator Tony Sparano under the bus with that statement, criticizing the fact that Tebow predictably ran between the tackles almost every play he was in.

 

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..absolutely LOVE the dig @ TT & TS.

I've always thought that Tebow could've been deployed much better than how he was. It's a shame the whole thing didn't work out better.


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Posted 31 July 2013 - 11:28 PM

Looks like the; Wildcat\Read’Option\Pistol\Change-of-Pace QB.. is coming back for 2013..

 

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http://www.newyorkjets.com/photos-and-videos/videos/731-Rex-Wildcat-is-Here-to-Stay/257e6379-2735-4d75-a2bc-61b30c688ab5 

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jets/2013/07/rex-ryan-says-jets-will-run-more-wildcat-this-year

 

We probably are going to use a lot of it this season. [the wildcat] I would say that’s part of what we do. Teams are getting these QB's now. These mobile quarterbacks with size, speed, all that type of stuff, so I would say the read-option is here to stay. It’s a great equalizer. It does give you the numbers back. Sometimes on defense you’re playing with plus one. We got Dave [David Lee] who brought the package to the NFL on our staff as Quarterback Coach. He’s been a big contributor, and that’s what you love about Marty [Mornhinweg] also. He takes the knowledge he has, and he’s very knowledgeable about it, but then he takes his staff and he collects information from everybody. We’ve done it with Brad Smith and Jeremy Kerley in the past, so it doesn’t necessarily have to be the quarterback. But the fact that it is the quarterback I think sometimes is even better than having a running back type guy do it. This is the reason why I think the Tebow package didn’t work last season. If you’re going to have a quarterback that has those skills, like a Kaepernick or somebody like that, then obviously it becomes more of a weapon, because you’re defending the pass. You’re not just knowing that Tebow’s going in and he’s just going to run the ball. That’s kind of where we were last year it seemed like.” --Rex Ryan

Ryan was throwing offensive coordinator Tony Sparano under the bus with that statement, criticizing the fact that Tebow predictably ran between the tackles almost every play he was in.

 

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..absolutely LOVE the dig @ TT & TS.

I've always thought that Tebow could've been deployed much better than how he was. It's a shame the whole thing didn't work out better.

 

I'm not sure how I feel about this. They used it brilliantly with Brad Smith, he was perfect in that role...a 4/5 receiver who was a great special teamer and a gadget player.

 

Kerley can do it, but I feel he's probably better served in the slot. Especially now that we don't have a healthy Holmes

 

If Geno was brought in to be a potential franchise QB, then why expose him to the hits he's going to take from the D by running this package? I'd much rather develop him as a straight drop back passer


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Posted 01 August 2013 - 06:50 AM

I'm not sure how I feel about this. They used it brilliantly with Brad Smith, he was perfect in that role...a 4/5 receiver who was a great special teamer and a gadget player.

Kerley can do it, but I feel he's probably better served in the slot. Especially now that we don't have a healthy Holmes

If Geno was brought in to be a potential franchise QB, then why expose him to the hits he's going to take from the D by running this package? I'd much rather develop him as a straight drop back passer

Play to your strengths. Geno is a lethal weapon in that system
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