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#161 Martyisth3b3st

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 03:16 AM

You're going to freak out over a record of 3-0-3 with the team only leading the division and being two points out of first in the conference with a game in hand? They could have been 6-0 if not for two overtime penalties (one of which was a bad call on Greene) and a shootout that can always go either way. Your ridiculous post and username show how spoiled some of our fanbase really is. Thank you for reminding me why I never bother reading gameday threads after a loss.

He's a troll. Or an idiot. Or a Rangers fan. Or all three (punny!).

Most people have him on ignore... I thought I did too. He disappeared (shocker) in the playoffs, if I recall correctly. If he didn't, it was the same melodramatic horsesh!t. He's an attention-seeking twat, and here we are feeding him.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 03:42 AM

3 PPGs surrendered. Ouch.
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 05:01 AM

Stinks to lose in OT again, but points are points. The team isn't playing well and still are unbeaten in regulation, despite all of the shortcomings. That's a huge plus for a team that can play much, much better. Just the fact that they're so resilient is pleasing.
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 07:03 AM

As frustrating as last night was, for a variety of reasons, I think this is one of those times where you step back and say "Things really aren't so bad."

No regulation losses.
A 3-0-3 start despite 1) not having Henrique in the lineup (until last night), 2) having to recover from Zach (and Poni) leaving, 3) Kovy not in one of his hot streaks, and 4) Tedenby falling flat on his face, and quite possibly out of the Devils' plans.
And last night, four new goal scorers, Henrique included.

Not saying everything is rosy, but it's far from gloom-and-doom. If they get a split this weekend, I'll take it.

Islanders are now 8-for-10 on their last 10 power plays...damn!

SMT3 was annoying last year. He'll be annoying this year. Kinda know what you're getting with him.

EDIT: one other downer...I know it's not all his fault, and I don't want to read TOO much into +/- this early, but with the exception of Janssen (-1 in three games), and Clarkson (-1), Josefson is the only other - player on the team, and he's a -4 to boot. It was one thing for Teddy to fail...sadly, I think we all knew he wasn't going to last for long, but it was worth giving him a shot. If Josefson struggles long-term, man, the Devils' forward situation gets that much dicier in a hurry.

Edited by Colorado Rockies 1976, 01 February 2013 - 07:25 AM.

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It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 08:00 AM

props to bernier on a sollid game and his linemates
the tavares line got the better of play this game, took some energy out of our top guys
patty looked off
cant be more happy with larrson, the backward crossovers into the grabner 1 on 1 was NHL-like and although he was a little chattery on his skates in the escape turn infront of his net. at least he attempted a nice speed move. PLAY THIS KID
and greenes defense on a full speed grabner is why I dont want to trade him, and he's slowly getting it on the PP
zid is crazy to watch, but you need skaters like that, he takes chances and the only other slap shot worth pairing w kovy
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 08:37 AM

I for one am very impressed at the resilience of this team to come back. They never seem to give up when they are down and always get a point, even though they need to cut down on stupid passes causing penalties to have to be drawn. I'm more interested in how the team reacts to being down 2-0 then a 5 goal blow out. These types of character games will determine how far we will head in the playoffs.

Also, holy sh!t CBGB line!

Edited by ZeroGravityFat, 01 February 2013 - 08:37 AM.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 08:45 AM

Like everyone is saying, last night showed both positives and negatives. I find myself at fault as well with saying about how Marty made some not-so-smart plays to say the least, but it wasn’t all his fault that we lost the game. We had our chances. We just couldn’t capitalize on our shots. No puck luck as I like to say. But I love how resilient this team is. We were always behind, but we came back to tie each time. That has to give the team confidence.

I thought Henrique did splendid for his first game. He did provide more offense, I believe this was the first time we scored 4 goals. Didn’t expect him to be on the PP or PK. His appearance must have boosted the locker room in the some way, because it definitely boosted the crowd.

But as our offense is starting to get to together in some way, our defense was off a beat. I felt like Fayne’s disappearance kind of hindered that. Larsson did fine for his first game in a few weeks, but everyone is still getting the feel of things.

We got 9 out of 12 points. Tied for first in the Atlantic division. The Islanders are a force to be reckon with in the upcoming future. We just have to capitalize our chances, especially on the PP, and I think we will be fine. Saturday should be interesting.
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 08:53 AM

If you want doom and gloom head over to http://www.japersrink.com/...I'm living in DC and the Caps fans are the ones that have a right be doom and gloomy...Making OV captain a few years ago is looking like a HUGE mistake. That guy couldn't lead lemmings off a cliff.
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 09:01 AM

Bad game for the boys...

Need a big bounceback. The Isles can be a legit playoff team in this shortened season, and I told my Isles fan buddy this before the season. We will see if they can keep it up...

A Devs Isles playoff series this season would certainly be interesting....
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 09:38 AM

I actually enjoyed this game despite not getting the 2 again. And my GameCenter stream didnt crash all night on my xbox as it usually does. Bonus.
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 09:59 AM

Kinda knew after the first 5 minutes that this would be a game I'd be disappointed about afterwards. It started sloppy and continued that way for the rest of the game. An unusual poor night for Salvador, but I liked what Larsson did. I am pretty sure the Pens-game on Saturday will be much better, simply because it's the Penguins and we will always be "more ready" for them than for the Islanders. I believe the Islanders are not taken 100% seriously and there is a general sense that you can beat them without a full effort. Takes a few losses to realize this isn't so any more. But for Crosby and Malkin you always play your hardest game.
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 10:31 AM

I remember this guy. He is going to reply to everyone tomorrow in his weird paragraph format about how he is always frustrated after a loss and how he takes everything personally and how the team must be perfect every game. Get ready, :e-drama:


Yep. One of those people should really watch something they actually enjoy, because hockey sure isn't it.
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 10:35 AM

EDIT: one other downer...I know it's not all his fault, and I don't want to read TOO much into +/- this early, but with the exception of Janssen (-1 in three games), and Clarkson (-1), Josefson is the only other - player on the team, and he's a -4 to boot. It was one thing for Teddy to fail...sadly, I think we all knew he wasn't going to last for long, but it was worth giving him a shot. If Josefson struggles long-term, man, the Devils' forward situation gets that much dicier in a hurry.


The Islanders called time out before their power play in overtime. The Devils put one forward out on the ice to kill the penalty, even though, as a result of the timeout, all their players should have been rested. Who do you think that forward was?
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 10:58 AM

The Islanders called time out before their power play in overtime. The Devils put one forward out on the ice to kill the penalty, even though, as a result of the timeout, all their players should have been rested. Who do you think that forward was?


Gee Tri, let me guess...

Hence, the reason I said I didn't want to read too much into his -4 rating to date. Like I said, clearly he's going to get as much of a chance as possible to stick up here, due to lack of forward depth (basically out of necessity). I don't blame the Devils for doing that, given the situation they're in. But like I said, IF he struggles long-term, not good for the Devils. They are clearly asking him (fairly or unfairly) to grow up in a hurry here.
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It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 11:08 AM

Gee Tri, let me guess...

Hence, the reason I said I didn't want to read too much into his -4 rating to date. Like I said, clearly he's going to get as much of a chance as possible to stick up here, due to lack of forward depth (basically out of necessity). I don't blame the Devils for doing that, given the situation they're in. But like I said, IF he struggles long-term, not good for the Devils. They are clearly asking him (fairly or unfairly) to grow up in a hurry here.


You shouldn't be reading anything at all into his -4 rate. Anyone -4 after 6 games is having a bad run of luck.

When Henrique is healthy, assuming no injuries, Josefson'll probably be taken off the power play, but he'll be used on the shift right after like he was last season.

Edited by Triumph, 01 February 2013 - 11:09 AM.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 11:16 AM

Just ignore ScoreMorethan if you can't stand his whining, it isn't a bannable offense. Stop reporting it :)
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 11:23 AM

You shouldn't be reading anything at all into his -4 rate. Anyone -4 after 6 games is having a bad run of luck.

When Henrique is healthy, assuming no injuries, Josefson'll probably be taken off the power play, but he'll be used on the shift right after like he was last season.


Anyone? C'mon, I'm sure there's been players who very much sucked their way to -4 ratings after 6 games, where their -4s weren't a result of bad luck. Not saying that Josefson is one of them.

Regardless, I see one guy who's +/- is considerably worse than everyone else's on the team, it raises a minor red flag, though a six-game sample isn't nearly enough to make a big deal out of it. The Devils need to know sooner than later what roles Josefson can fill for them, and due to a lot of circumstances, this is the time to find that out.
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Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
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It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 11:29 AM

Considering Josefson can't score and plays in all situations, his plus/minus will probably suffer.

Edited by NJDevs4978, 01 February 2013 - 11:30 AM.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 11:34 AM

Considering Josefson can't score and plays in all situations, his plus/minus will probably suffer.


That's fair, but the Devils are going to need SOME offense from him eventually. Hopefully that comes in time.
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It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 11:53 AM

Anyone? C'mon, I'm sure there's been players who very much sucked their way to -4 ratings after 6 games, where their -4s weren't a result of bad luck. Not saying that Josefson is one of them.


No. There haven't been. Players make mistakes that sometimes lead to goals - the critical word is sometimes. The goalie's still back there, and he still should save most of the shots. That's not even mentioning all the idiocies associated with +/- (which I don't think Josefson has come into contact with). A player with a PDO of 1000, to be down 4 goals at even strength through 6 games, should be -48 shots or thereabouts. Granted, Josefson has been getting slammed at even strength, but to be -48 through 6 games would be near impossible. Even assuming 20 total shots for and against, which would be really high, that would be a 30% shots percentage. It gets lower as we get more reasonable (for 14 shots total, that would be getting 21% of the shots).

Josefson is only getting 37% of shots on goal + missed shots right now, which is a slight matter of concern, but I don't know how often he's being used in the offensive zone. I suspect it's not often because I know I saw DeBoer using him as a D zone center late in games instead of S. Gionta.

Regardless, I see one guy who's +/- is considerably worse than everyone else's on the team, it raises a minor red flag, though a six-game sample isn't nearly enough to make a big deal out of it. The Devils need to know sooner than later what roles Josefson can fill for them, and due to a lot of circumstances, this is the time to find that out.


Guess they think he can fill the 3 on 4 penalty killer role. Usually a good move to find out if 21 year old forwards are capable of doing that.

Edited by Triumph, 01 February 2013 - 11:55 AM.

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