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#161 ATLL765

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 10:56 AM

Guys, you even don't know about the players of your team :( Zubrus is NOT Russian, he's Lithuanian, Ponikarovsky is NOT Russian, he's from Ukraine.. And if you don't understand the difference, it's your problem.

I know, it's pretty bad. It's not that hard to get either.


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Posted 15 March 2013 - 01:37 PM

I know, it's pretty bad. It's not that hard to get either

 

a million times on here people spell Zajac's name "Zajak" and spelt Parise's name Zack and other little mistakes and nobody (rightly) says a thing but what former Soviet republic Poni's from is what makes everyone all high and mighty and calling people embarrassingly ignorant? (for the record I knew, but I don't think others who didn't should be crucified for thinking they were Russian)

 

Oh and btw many people in the former Soviet republics still celebrate Russian traditions so  they may be more culturally similar than it would appear

 

Americans here don't really know how many of those people would react to saying they were Russian when they were born in the country we referred to as Russia. There are a lot of ignorant things out there in the world like saying people who don't eat meat medium rare can't be cultured and there are dumb people who keep online dating profiles while dating somebody (I know I'm kinda rambling here), but I just don't think we're in a position to know how they'd feel. They might have migrated like Daniel said or keep the traditions who knows


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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:15 PM

a million times on here people spell Zajac's name "Zajak" and spelt Parise's name Zack and other little mistakes and nobody (rightly) says a thing but what former Soviet republic Poni's from is what makes everyone all high and mighty and calling people embarrassingly ignorant? (for the record I knew, but I don't think others who didn't should be crucified for thinking they were Russian)

 

Oh and btw many people in the former Soviet republics still celebrate Russian traditions so  they may be more culturally similar than it would appear

 

Americans here don't really know how many of those people would react to saying they were Russian when they were born in the country we referred to as Russia. There are a lot of ignorant things out there in the world like saying people who don't eat meat medium rare can't be cultured and there are dumb people who keep online dating profiles while dating somebody (I know I'm kinda rambling here), but I just don't think we're in a position to know how they'd feel. They might have migrated like Daniel said or keep the traditions who knows

I correct all those people too when I see it.

But if one can't tell the difference between the former Soviet bloc countries, that's just a lack of general geography knowledge. I've never called the Soviet Union or USSR, Russia, because it wasn't.


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Posted 15 March 2013 - 03:57 PM

Ok guys... In olympic hockey finals playing USA and Canada... Nobody cares witch team will win.. they all Americans. Also there's no difference between Canada,USA and Mexico.. they're all the same - Americans.. Do you agree??? Of course NOT, so stop talking BS about ussr, because it was only a 50 years old (RIP) "country", witch was made from many absolutely different countries and cultures. Let's say, Kazakhstan and Lithuania was all ussr for 50 years, but we are completely different, they are Asiatic, we are Baltic and so on, and so on. USSR was just a temporary politic unit, when it collapsed, all those countries got back their identity and pre ussr history. Now there is a European union, but for some reason you don't call a player from Germany a french, or englishman a swede.. Of course, you can call all of them - Europians, but when t comes to nations, please don't be so stupid calling all them the same. There's a HUGE difference between Russian and Lithuanian, Latvian and Ukrainian etc. If you don't understand that, I can't see the difference between Mexican and Canadian, or a person from USA.. I hope you understand what I mean and sorry for a non hockey post
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Posted 15 March 2013 - 04:16 PM

It wasn't what you were saying but your attitude when you replied, imo.  I found it to be condescending and arrogant.  So instead of trying to explain or teach something you were rather brusk and ended with  if we don't understand then it is our problem.  Do you understand what I mean?


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Posted 15 March 2013 - 04:18 PM

DH:  People still spell it Kinkaid too, drives me up a wall.  I realize a lot of people jumped down your throat, but I think the right tack here is 'I made a mistake, won't do it again'.  If you read Soviet history you could see why it might be a very sensitive subject for some.  And even Kovalchuk has commented that Zubrus and Ponikarovsky aren't Russian in a light-hearted fashion.


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Posted 15 March 2013 - 05:10 PM

DH:  People still spell it Kinkaid too, drives me up a wall.  I realize a lot of people jumped down your throat, but I think the right tack here is 'I made a mistake, won't do it again'.  If you read Soviet history you could see why it might be a very sensitive subject for some.  And even Kovalchuk has commented that Zubrus and Ponikarovsky aren't Russian in a light-hearted fashion.

 

yeah you're right I wrote without thinking. Part of my family comes from there and she's told me about it but I'll just not try to upset people and not mention it 


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Posted 15 March 2013 - 05:12 PM

"light-hearted fashion" being the key to this lesson in the intricacies of geographic history relating to hockey and the former "soviet" regime.


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Posted 15 March 2013 - 05:31 PM

Not to change the subject of this too much.. but I find myself watching with alot of intrest the dynamic between Kovy and Lokti. There is clearly a hierarchy involved (for obvious reasons,age,time with the team and notoriety) but with that in mind I think there could be a little rivalry or competition (healthy) starting, that I think could spark the team. Has anyone been on teams that have had teamates fueling each other? maybe just wishful thinking?


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