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#461 nmigliore

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 01:29 PM

At least my Niese post looks well timed, heh. Horrible defense behind him today aside, I'm getting a little more concerned with each passing start. The strikeout and walk rates are very bad. I don't mean bad by Niese standards either, this is like sub-replacement level bad.

Edited by nmigliore, 05 May 2013 - 05:01 PM.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:07 PM

Suffice it to say that both Niese and Gee warrant concern at this point.  All that needs to be said.

 

Scary to think that Jeremy Hefner has actually been the Mets' second-best starting pitcher this season. 


Edited by Colorado Rockies 1976, 05 May 2013 - 06:29 PM.

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Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
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It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 07:11 PM

On the bright side, Wheeler was good again: 6 IP, 3 hits, 0 ER, 1 BB, 4 K. Probably could have started the 7th since he threw just 90 pitches, but not bad to end on a high note. That's two consecutive solid starts.

Edited by nmigliore, 05 May 2013 - 07:33 PM.

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 06:01 AM

On the bright side, Wheeler was good again: 6 IP, 3 hits, 0 ER, 1 BB, 4 K. Probably could have started the 7th since he threw just 90 pitches, but not bad to end on a high note. That's two consecutive solid starts.

 

Last two outings for Zach:  12.2 IP, 8 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 12 K.  At the rate the Mets' rotation is going right now (how many good starts can Hefner be expected to provide?), if Wheeler has another good start or two, maybe the Mets entertain the idea of bringing him up...they can always send him back down if he implodes. 

 

At any rate, if the Mets end up having a need for a starting pitcher from within, it's very slim pickins.  Collin McHugh is 2-2 with a 3.57 ERA, which doesn't look bad at a quick glance, but he's given up 13 ER in his last 17.1 IP (along with 27 hits)...he had given up just one ER in his first 18 IP for the 51s this season.  Of course, the PCL is a screwy place for pitchers, but McHugh isn't a guy the Mets are looking to be a fixture in their rotation anyway. 


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THE NHL MUST LOVE THE DEVILS - from who else? A RANGER fan!
[Mark Messier]: A big, bald attention whore with a stupid Easter Island-lookin face. - from who else? DaneykoIsGod!

Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
- Most priceless quote ever posted on a message board.

Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 07:52 PM

Harvey with a very nice performance through 7

 

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 08:22 PM

What an AMAZING performance by Harvey. DOMINANCE.

Too bad the lineup has decided to go cold once again. Awesome. Not even 1 freakin' run.

Edited by nmigliore, 07 May 2013 - 08:23 PM.

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 08:41 PM

true. but to be fair the Mets haven't been as offensively inept as most others (me) thought. seems like they go cold at the worst possible times, but they have hit far more home runs than anybody expected this season.

 

Regardless of how this game ends up. Holy sh!t, Harvey is an ACE. we've got something really special. And in future years when we bolster this offense. This game is a win.


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 08:45 PM

true. but to be fair the Mets haven't been as offensively inept as most others (me) thought. seems like they go cold at the worst possible times, but they have hit far more home runs than anybody expected this season.

 

Regardless of how this game ends up. Holy sh!t, Harvey is an ACE. we've got something really special. And in future years when we bolster this offense. This game is a win.

 

Well Mets win anyway. I meant 9 inning win :-)


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 08:48 PM

Too bad Harvey didn't get the win but I'll gladly settle for a Mets win. Baxter delivers!
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Posted 07 May 2013 - 08:58 PM

why no pinch runner for Ike though

 

strange decision by Terry


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 06:10 AM

What an AMAZING performance by Harvey. DOMINANCE.

Too bad the lineup has decided to go cold once again. Awesome. Not even 1 freakin' run.

 

His numbers are obscene...49.1 IP, 22 H, 7 R, 12 BB, 58 K, 1.28 ERA, 0.69 WHIP, .133 BA.  4 hits or less allowed in 6 out of his 7 starts. 

 

And then there's the Met "offense".  They're now batting .232 as a team, with a .307 OB%.  They have exactly THREE hitters batting over .250:  David Wright, Daniel Murphy, and Justin Turner (41 ABs).  And sadly, Murph is still clearly a guy who really needs to hit well over .300 to be an everyday player on a good team, because he still doesn't get on base nearly enough, and though he works his tail off, seems to be blatantly average at just about everything. 

 

It's kind of too bad Sandy didn't give a sh!t about improving the 2013 team on any level, as it's probably going to cost Harvey some wins.  It's easy to say oh well, Harvey will have several great years in front of him, but who knows these days...all it takes is one injury or loss of velocity...so many guys have two or three great years, then lose just enough of their stuff to become average.  This year for Harvey could wind up being his career year.  I just hope Wheeler pitches well enough to get a June call-up (and hopefully then pitch well enough to stick around)...I watch the Mets when I can, but the only time I feel compelled to watch them play is when Harvey is pitching.  Wheeler could give me another reason.

 

I know the Mets were clearly hoping Harvey would pitch at least as well as he did last season, but if not for him being off-the-charts brilliant this season, this team would be a disaster.  The Mets are 6-1 when Harvey starts, and 7-15 when anyone else does.  Scary to think what will happen when Hefner starts to pitch like Hefner again (but then again, the Mets are 0-6 when he starts, so it's not like they can do any worse in Hefner starts). 


Edited by Colorado Rockies 1976, 08 May 2013 - 06:12 AM.

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THE NHL MUST LOVE THE DEVILS - from who else? A RANGER fan!
[Mark Messier]: A big, bald attention whore with a stupid Easter Island-lookin face. - from who else? DaneykoIsGod!

Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
- Most priceless quote ever posted on a message board.

Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 06:44 AM

Harvey allowed to miss the game tonight to watch the rangers at the garden... What a joke of an organization
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Posted 08 May 2013 - 06:55 AM

Harvey allowed to miss the game tonight to watch the rangers at the garden... What a joke of an organization

 

He's already bigger than the team lol.  But that's not really a big deal to me considering he'd be a glorified cheerleader tonight anyway.


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 07:34 AM

He's already bigger than the team lol.  But that's not really a big deal to me considering he'd be a glorified cheerleader tonight anyway.

 

Same here, and the guy has been a phenomenal performer to boot...seems like a fair reward, if one wants to brand it as such.  I haven't seen one thing out of Harvey that would lead me to believe that he's some kind of entitled diva.  I just don't see it as that big of a deal.  The Mets have bigger fish to fry...like getting about 80% of the roster to perform anywhere NEAR the level of what Harvey's given them.


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THE NHL MUST LOVE THE DEVILS - from who else? A RANGER fan!
[Mark Messier]: A big, bald attention whore with a stupid Easter Island-lookin face. - from who else? DaneykoIsGod!

Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
- Most priceless quote ever posted on a message board.

Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 07:47 AM

Harvey is a HUGE Rangers fan, that's the only downside to him :lol:. It's really not a big deal either way though, re: not being at tonight's game. Other than maybe being the first pitcher who you'd want to bat off the bench in a long extra-innings game, there's no purpose to him being there.

Harvey has been carrying this team anyway, he deserves a "day off" like that.

Edited by nmigliore, 08 May 2013 - 07:48 AM.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 07:55 AM

Interesting blurb on R.A. Dickey, and why he's struggling for the Blue Jays:

 

http://espn.go.com/b...-really-awesome

 

At any rate, trading him was a no-brainer, even if he was pitching well for the Jays (or recovers from this slow start and turns in a solid year)...there was little reason to think he was going to repeat 2012 (not saying he would've stunk this season as a Met, but last year definitely had a lightning-in-a-bottle feel to it), and the Mets wouldn't have contended even IF he had come close to duplicating 2012.  It was too risky to keep him. 


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THE NHL MUST LOVE THE DEVILS - from who else? A RANGER fan!
[Mark Messier]: A big, bald attention whore with a stupid Easter Island-lookin face. - from who else? DaneykoIsGod!

Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
- Most priceless quote ever posted on a message board.

Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:46 AM

Harvey is from New London Connecticut...wouldn't imagine it's heavy Rags country over there. Oh well. Heard he's a Patriots fan too :-P

 

I doubt they play tonight anyway.


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:48 AM

I could be wrong but I think Harvey only started to like hockey when he came to NY. He's been to a bunch of Rangers games this year and he tweets about them non-stop during games, so he must be a legit fan. He's also great friends with Lundqvist.

I doubt they play tonight anyway.

Wouldn't totally mind missing a Peavy/Hefner game for our sake but man I'm so tired of postponed games. I'm too lazy to go look but I believe Gary said last night the Mets have played the least amount of games of all MLB teams this year thanks to rainouts/snowouts.

Edited by nmigliore, 08 May 2013 - 08:53 AM.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:57 AM

I think we're tied with the royals for the least (29)

 

The Phillies have played 34! They're like almost a week ahead of us on the schedule


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 09:28 AM

Apparently the Harvey/Rangers game thing was just a joke by Jay Horwitz on Twitter. Jay is really annoying.

Harvey actually spent part of his midday monitoring angry and misguided tweets directed at him. PR man Jay Horwitz had tweeted that Harvey would be excused from Wednesday’s Mets game to watch his beloved New York Rangers play at Madison Square Garden. It was a joke that some took literally.

“He’s getting a little aggressive with the tweeting,” Harvey said.


Edited by nmigliore, 08 May 2013 - 09:31 AM.

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