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Posted 11 June 2013 - 06:39 AM

And that's the other thing.  Apparently Valdespin's teammates can't stand him.  I get the impression Murph is pretty well-liked in the clubhouse.  I don't know, maybe Sandy's hoping Valdespin shows enough that someone shows interest and thinks they may be getting a star in the making?  Because New York doesn't seem like a good place for him long-term.  

 

I think Murph, limitations and all, has done enough to make second base HIS position, unless he's giving way to a clear upgrade (which Valdespin clearly is NOT).  I don't think this is fair to him one bit. 


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Posted 11 June 2013 - 07:30 PM

Double play grounder to Wright, can't field it. Easy grounder to Murph (playing out of position) booted

 

What a bunch of clowns. hefner got the outs that inning. These bozos need to learn how to pick up a baseball.


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Posted 11 June 2013 - 09:23 PM

Double play grounder to Wright, can't field it. Easy grounder to Murph (playing out of position) booted

 

What a bunch of clowns. hefner got the outs that inning. These bozos need to learn how to pick up a baseball.

 

:argh:  God I can't stand this team.  Finally find a home for Murphy, who was a singles-hitting DH earlier in his career and now they jerk him around.


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Posted 12 June 2013 - 06:17 AM

Team batting average is now down to .225 (dead last in MLB).  It's amazing to have a team with SO many guys who flat-out can't hit (and strike out like crazy to boot).  515 Ks...that's 7th-highest, but they've also played less games than everyone else.  I'm guessing on average they're probably in the top-5 easily.  And at least some of those high-strikeout teams show the ability to draw walks, and actually - GASP! - hit the ball and score runs to boot.   

 

NJDevs4978, it's an impossible team to get behind (teams that can't hit look lifeless and boring by default), but at least they have decent starting pitching (especially lately).  Hef remains a pleasant surprise (3.86 ERA as a starter), Gee, Niese and Marcum have been pitching better lately...Harvey has been giving up more hits over his last 6 starts (41 hits allowed in his last 40.2 IP), but he still has a terrific K-to-BB in that time (37-to-7), and a strong ERA (2.66) in those games...it's SOMETHING to hang our hats on! 

 

Still hard to believe that a guy who has pitched to a 2.66 ERA in his last 9 starts overall (he's allowed 2 ER or fewer in 6 out of those nine games) is 1-0 with eight no-decisions in that time.  The only guy in MLB who had a similar streak (where he pitched about as well as Harvey overall) was the Reds' Erik Hanson, in 1994, who pitched to a 3.07 ERA and also went 1-0 in 9 starts (8 of them qualified as quality starts, 2 ER or fewer in six of them).

 

The '96 Mets went 71-91, but were at least kind of fun to watch...Lance Johnson, Bernard Gilkey and Todd Hundley had terrific years at the plate...the bullpen was pretty rough, and the starters weren't great either, but that team was infinitely more watchable than this mess. 


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It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 10:31 AM

Ike Vegas watch:

 

0-for-3, 2 BB, 2 K, .000 BA, .400 OB%, .000 SLG, .400 OB+SLG

 

Well, at least he drew a couple of walks.


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Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
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Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 08:47 PM

Fantastic outing for Gee tonight vs a very good lineup. Very encouraging once again, this is good. 


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Posted 12 June 2013 - 11:45 PM

Buck is getting overworked. Real tough to watch him right now. And we don't have a suitable backup in Recker. Why not bring up this Pena kid from Vegas. Seems to be hitting the ball well down there

 

Also 2 hits for Ike tonight. And Flores continues to rake.


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 06:06 AM

Gee's overall ERA still looks ugly but his peripherals are beginning to really fall in line. His K% and BB% rates are very similar to last year and his xFIP sits at league average; pretty impressive considering the slow start for him. Like I said last night, very encouraging.

 

It sounds like they'll temporarily go with a 6-man rotation when Wheeler comes up; I don't like the idea of less Harvey but really, who is going to be pulled? Despite his success, Hefner is probably still the worst starter on this staff (4.91 FIP) but it's just unrealistic to expect him to get yanked considering the results he's gotten. Marcum's ERA is ugly but his peripherals are excellent so he shouldn't be going anywhere. Considering the fragility and volatility of some of these starters, it probably makes sense to just let things sort themselves out. 


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 06:15 AM

Ike Vegas watch:

 

2-for-8, 2 BB, 3K, 1 2B, 0 HR, 0 RBI, .250 BA, .400 OB%, .375 SLG, .775 OB+SLG

 

Gee's ERA has dropped from 6.34 to 4.84 in his last three starts.  He's actually the one guy who's gotten some luck too...he's now 5-6.  Numbers over his last three:  21 IP, 19 H, 3 ER, 3 BB, 26 K.  Good stuff.  At any rate, he's making Collins' decision as to who comes out of the rotation that much more difficult.  I'm guessing the guy who gets taken out is Hefner (if the Mets don't go with a six-man for the forseeable future), mostly because I think the Mets think Gee has the higher upside, and will chalk up his earlier struggles to coming back from injury, being rusty, etc.  And Marcum, when healthy, is a good #3, and I think has a good chance to get dealt by the deadline.  No way Niese is losing his job, nor should he (last four starts:  27 IP, 27 H, 5 ER, 7 BB, 18 K, 0 HR, 1.67 ERA). 

 

It's funny, with all of the losing the Mets have been doing, it's easy to forget that they've been getting good starting pitching lately, from everyone:

 

Harvey goes without saying...2.10 ERA overall.  Has only given up 3 ER once, and 4 ER twice.  2 ER or less in all of his other starts.

Niese:  1.67 ERA in his last four

Marcum:  Last four starts and that marathon relief appearance:  34.1 IP, 27 H, 13 ER, 4 BB, 33 K, 2 HR, 3.41 ERA

Gee:  1.29 ERA in his last three

Hefner:  3.86 ERA as a starter overall, though he did give up five unearned runs in his last start.

 

Good news about all of this is that, if everyone can stay healthy, Mets might be able to trade one of these arms to a contender...it would/should probably be Marcum.  Clearly Harvey and Niese aren't going anywhere, and Gee and Hefner aren't battle-tested veterans who are going to attract attention...I'm guessing one of them could be moved in an off-season package for an outfielder.  Marcum has a track record and his deal is a one-year bargain...he's an ideal 2013 rental. 

 

Unfortunately, despite the good pitching, when the team flat-out can't score runs (first 19 GP:  108 RS (5.68 RPG) 10-9 record; last 41 GP:  130 RS (3.17 RPG) 14-27 record), well, not hard to see how it's going to go. 

 

What's kind of amazing is that the Yankees and Mets are about tied overall for the season for RPG, at 3.97 RPG (anything under 4.00 is usually pretty weak).  Contending always covers up a lot of ills. 


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 06:22 AM

Gee's overall ERA still looks ugly but his peripherals are beginning to really fall in line. His K% and BB% rates are very similar to last year and his xFIP sits at league average; pretty impressive considering the slow start for him. Like I said last night, very encouraging.

 

It sounds like they'll temporarily go with a 6-man rotation when Wheeler comes up; I don't like the idea of less Harvey but really, who is going to be pulled? Despite his success, Hefner is probably still the worst starter on this staff (4.91 FIP) but it's just unrealistic to expect him to get yanked considering the results he's gotten. Marcum's ERA is ugly but his peripherals are excellent so he shouldn't be going anywhere. Considering the fragility and volatility of some of these starters, it probably makes sense to just let things sort themselves out. 

 

Gee's H-to-IP ratio overall looks pretty fugly too, but it's going to take a couple of low-hit games for that to change...it will probably still look weak by season's end.  I think for Gee, we'll have to measure this season from 5/30 on.  Only problem with that, is that this season will then have played out like his previous two...he has yet to show that he can be consistent over a full season.   


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It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 02:08 PM

Typical run support for Harvey. Yippee.
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Posted 13 June 2013 - 02:34 PM

Well, at least Wright is awesome. 3 hits today, which is 1 more than the rest of the team, ha. Season wRC+ currently at 143; right in line with last year's elite season and vintage Wright. Even with some expected regression he's on pace for a 5-6 win season, which is excellent. Very encouraging to see after last year's 2nd half. He's still the top NL 3B and it's not close.


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 03:52 PM

Well, at least Wright is awesome. 3 hits today, which is 1 more than the rest of the team, ha. Season wRC+ currently at 143; right in line with last year's elite season and vintage Wright. Even with some expected regression he's on pace for a 5-6 win season, which is excellent. Very encouraging to see after last year's 2nd half. He's still the top NL 3B and it's not close.

 

I can't call Wright's 2012 season "elite"...not with last year's second-half disappearing act.  If he's the best 3rd baseman in the NL, then the position is pretty weak right now.  Wright's good.  No longer great.  And awesome only compared to what's on the rest of the team. 

 

Does this team EVER get 10 hits anymore?!  Always seems like it's 4, 5, 6, or 7, I swear...

 

Poor Matt Harvey...that's all I've got to say.  1-1 in his last 10 starts.  This team seems determined to break his spirit.  I hope it doesn't happen. 

 

Quintanilla is predictably sinking like a stone...now 4-for-his-last-31, and in typical Met fashion, racking up the Ks (10 of them in that time frame).  But it's not like any immediate help is on the way.   

 

And I hope Captain Passive isn't fooled enough by Lucas Du-fus' occasional solo dingers to think this guy deserves ANOTHER season to prove he's not very good.  This is one guy I really want to see off the team next season. 

 

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It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 04:42 PM

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 04:55 PM

 

 

Does this team EVER get 10 hits anymore?!  Always seems like it's 4, 5, 6, or 7, I swear...

 

After you mentioned that I looked back through the box scores.  In the Mets' last 50 games, they got double-digit hits just ten times, and five of those games they needed extra innings to do it.  They also haven't had double-digit hits in a game two straight games since mid-April in Minnesota.  Amazingly awful.


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 05:30 PM

I can't call Wright's 2012 season "elite"...not with last year's second-half disappearing act.  If he's the best 3rd baseman in the NL, then the position is pretty weak right now.  Wright's good.  No longer great.  And awesome only compared to what's on the rest of the team. 

 

Obviously I disagree. He was a 7-win player last season, which is easily elite. I know the 2nd half wasn't very good and he got/gets constantly dinged here for that, but while it made for a concern entering 2013, it shouldn't degrade his 2012 as a whole. He's also been superb to start this season anyway, which kind of puts those 2012 2nd half struggles in the rearview mirror.

 

By the way, David is 3rd among position players in fWAR since the start of 2012 -- only Trout and Miguel Cabrera have been better -- so it's not really about a weak crop of 3B. He's undoubtedly been one of the game's best players over the last two years, weak 2nd half included. "Just" saying he's the top 3B in the NL doesn't really do him justice with the way he's hit the last couple years.

 

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Final start for Wheeler tonight in Las Vegas, hoping things go smoothly. 


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 05:42 AM

After you mentioned that I looked back through the box scores.  In the Mets' last 50 games, they got double-digit hits just ten times, and five of those games they needed extra innings to do it.  They also haven't had double-digit hits in a game two straight games since mid-April in Minnesota.  Amazingly awful.

 

Wow, that about says it all.  I knew it was bad, but when the badness is fleshed out with numbers, you realize HOW bad it really is.  This team may not even be batting .200 as a team in those 50 games (they're down to .224 on the season, and were hitting reasonably well early on). 


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 05:50 AM

Obviously I disagree. He was a 7-win player last season, which is easily elite. I know the 2nd half wasn't very good and he got/gets constantly dinged here for that, but while it made for a concern entering 2013, it shouldn't degrade his 2012 as a whole. He's also been superb to start this season anyway, which kind of puts those 2012 2nd half struggles in the rearview mirror.

 

By the way, David is 3rd among position players in fWAR since the start of 2012 -- only Trout and Miguel Cabrera have been better -- so it's not really about a weak crop of 3B. He's undoubtedly been one of the game's best players over the last two years, weak 2nd half included. "Just" saying he's the top 3B in the NL doesn't really do him justice with the way he's hit the last couple years.

 

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Final start for Wheeler tonight in Las Vegas, hoping things go smoothly. 

 

The guy was a black hole in the second half.  He was invisible in the second half of the season, and that was when the team needed him most, so yeah, fWAR aside, I think his 2012 campaign should get dinged for that.  And he was NOT good in 2011.   

 

In 2013 so far, he's been pretty good.  Admittedly he doesn't have a hell of a lot around him in the lineup.  The good news is the scenario I was most concerned about (him struggling as badly as he did in last year's second half to start this season) hasn't happened.  But based on the balance of 2011-12, yeah, I do definitely worry about him tailing off again.  Hopefully he can turn in a solid year overall, and carry that into 2014. 


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 11:52 AM

BTW, Zack's last start:

 

5.2 IP, 1 H (a HR), 1 ER, 2 BB, 7 K

 

His AAA numbers overall (seem good but not great until you remember he's pitching in the PCL):

 

13 starts, 68.2 IP, 61 H, 35 R, 30 ER, 27 BB, 73 K, 4-2, 3.93 ERA  

 

Numbers are much better over his last 8 starts...he really cut down on his walks:

 

45.2 IP, 35 H, 15 ER, 12 BB, 45 K, 4-1, 2.96 ERA

 

He averaged just over 5 IP per start, and has been known to labor in games from time to time, but I also think the Mets were being careful/protective of his arm.   

 

With Zack, here's how I see it:

 

He appears to have survived pitching in the PCL without his head getting screwed up.

 

The idea was to get him up here sometime this year.  I think we all would've happily signed up for mid-June before the season started, so him coming up has to be considered a major plus...and he has pitched well enough overall in AAA to at least make this a justified move, and not the Mets throwing a young arm out there and hoping for the best.   


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THE NHL MUST LOVE THE DEVILS - from who else? A RANGER fan!
[Mark Messier]: A big, bald attention whore with a stupid Easter Island-lookin face. - from who else? DaneykoIsGod!

Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
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Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 06:47 PM

The Mets outfield positioning is among the worst in baseball. Dejesus has some power, why the hell is Byrd playing him like he's Rey Ordonez at the plate?

 

Also Met outfielders never catch anything. Other teams catch everything against the Mets. We get gloves on it and catch zilch


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