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Posted 03 July 2013 - 10:13 PM

There really needs to be an edict from Sandy, that if Harvey is at 100 he doesn't start an inning. No exception. Shame Collins needs to be told this but I guess he's just too stupid.


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Posted 04 July 2013 - 08:16 AM

There really needs to be an edict from Sandy, that if Harvey is at 100 he doesn't start an inning. No exception. Shame Collins needs to be told this but I guess he's just too stupid.

 

A bit too simplistic, in that there's obvious exceptions to this rule...if the Mets are up 5-0 going into the 9th inning and Harvey's thrown around 100 pitches and has had an easy time doing it, then I wouldn't have a problem with it.

 

I am guessing last night, with the Mets being down by one run going into the 7th, Terry was hoping Harvey could get through the 7th unscathed, and that the Mets could come back in their half and get Harvey in position for a win.  I don't agree with the thinking at all...Matt had faced seven batters and had given up 3 runs in that 6th...and his pitch count was up there.  The rain delay probably threw him off too. 

 

I understand your frustration fully though...Collins has mishandled Harvey twice in the last four starts, and that mishandling has led to five runs against Harvey's record that were completely unnecessary.  Unfortunately, as the Mets begin to show signs of improvement (18-17 in their last 35 GP), Collins is going to be exposed for the caretaking stopgap no one else wanted. 

 

Ike went 3-for-4 last night, and as nmig mentioned, homered for the second straight game.  Ike's overall numbers admittedly look pretty good, but he's playing in a hitter's league, and it's fair to expect that a guy who had some considerable major-league experience was going to have success against lesser competition.  I'm glad the Mets haven't brought him back yet.

 

Mets are on pace for exactly 70 wins, which is pretty much what I think all of us were expecting.  It'd be nice if the Mets could have a 41-40 second half or something like that, finish up within 10 games of .500 on the season.  It's a longshot...I think many of Zack's starts are going to result in losses. 


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Posted 04 July 2013 - 06:07 PM

After games like this...god truly hates the mets

Rice's 15 min is up. He's garbage. Cut him

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 09:34 PM

Lyon DFA'd, Burke coming up. Good.

 

Davis is also on his way back up, ugh. Really stupid to do this right now and forces TC to bench Satin, at least vs RHP.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 05:40 AM

Lyon:  good riddance.

 

I agree, I don't like Davis getting this second chance so quickly.  Satin deserves better...he's done nothing to warrant a cut in his playing time. 


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Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
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It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 07:23 AM

Lyon:  good riddance.

 

I agree, I don't like Davis getting this second chance so quickly.  Satin deserves better...he's done nothing to warrant a cut in his playing time. 

 

In a way though, I do understand the Davis stuff. He's making a little more than $3M this season and would project to make a similar amount next season if tendered a contract; at this point the Mets have to figure out if he's worth keeping, non-tendering, or trading. You don't want just give Ike away free because of a $3M pricetag in 2014 but you also don't want to waste that money on what might be a worthless roster spot. Now is the time to find out.

 

It stinks for Satin, he's done nothing but hit since coming up, but the reality is that he's a 28 year old journeyman type who is pretty much limited to 1B and doesn't have much power. Overall his upside probably is no more than a short-side platoon 1B. 

 

So yeah, I'm not saying I like this move, because I don't, but I DO understand some of the logic behind it.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 07:35 AM

I can't argue anything you're saying nmig...in fact, I agree with all of it.  Ike had a nice tease in AAA and sooner or later the Mets have to figure out if that can translate to the majors, even though they'll find this out at Satin's undeserved expense. 

 

I just feel real bad for the guy...I know he has limitations and probably will never be an everyday first baseman, but it's just unfortunate for him that he's going to lose his job. 


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Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
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It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 08:09 AM

Murph's OB% is now down to .304 after last night's 0-for-6.  It's been tough going for him for a while now.

 

Nice first game back for Ike.  Feel for Satin. 

 

Zack Leiter's 2-1 record and 4.29 ERA is hiding some serious ills.  A 1.62 WHIP...good lord. 


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Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
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Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 10:13 AM

Murph's OB% is now down to .304 after last night's 0-for-6.  It's been tough going for him for a while now.

 

Nice first game back for Ike.  Feel for Satin. 

 

Zack Leiter's 2-1 record and 4.29 ERA is hiding some serious ills.  A 1.62 WHIP...good lord. 

 

Murph's OB% is now down to .304 after last night's 0-for-6.  It's been tough going for him for a while now.

 

Nice first game back for Ike.  Feel for Satin. 

 

Zack Leiter's 2-1 record and 4.29 ERA is hiding some serious ills.  A 1.62 WHIP...good lord. 

Yeah I think this is basically what Murphy is. If you look at the last 4 years, he's been pretty much the same hitter in 3 of them with 2011 being the exception and I'll include BABIP to make it clear why 2011 was an outlier:

 

2009: 94 wRC+, .284 BABIP

2011: 126 wRC+, .345 BABIP

2012: 101 wRC+, .329 BABIP,

2013: 94 wRC+, .295 BABIP

 

I mean, that's not so terrible; a league average-ish (a 100 wRC+ is league average, for reference) hitting 2B who can field the position like an average 2B is going to be okay. Not a great or even good player but an average regular who may be slightly worse or better than that depending on how his BABIP and defense fluctuate year to year.

 

Wilmer Flores has primarily played 2B in Las Vegas, so he'd be a clear replacement if the Mets traded Murphy. Even after adjusting for the PCL factor, his numbers are really solid, and he's still just 21. I don't think the offensive bar is all that large to surpass Murphy, I just question how well he can handle 2B and how detrimental his baserunning will be since he's very slow. Those kinds of things aren't a *huge* deal if you can hit but if he turns out to be a fringy league-average hitter like Murphy, then those things will make the difference between acceptable regular and non-starter.


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Posted 06 July 2013 - 11:05 AM

re:  Murph, it's disappointing because he shows teases of being something better (even if it's due to some occasional luck), and seems to have a good attitude (and some heart).  But it's obvious he's probably not going to be anything more than a solidly average player.  

 

I'm guessing the Mets could trade him for bullpen help and give Flores a shot within the next year or so.  Ideally, Murph could have another outlier year next season where he hits in the .320s again, and someone bites on him before the deadline.


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Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
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Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 07:59 PM

Marcum just can't get a break with runners on base this season. He's rocking a strand rate in the low-60's. That's a stat, like pitcher BABIP, that fluctuates often (league average is typically 72-73%). In other words, that's not Marcum's fault, it's just part of baseball, and unlike some pitchers who consistently struggle with stranding runners (see: Nolasco, Ricky), Marcum has never had these issues (career 75% strand rate). I'm not even saying he's pitched all that well this season to begin with, but he's certainly more deserving of an ERA around 4 than 5.50 or whatever it is right now.

 

This kind of bares it out (entering tonight):

 

BABIP with runners on base: .388

BABIP with runners in scoring position: .384

BABIP with nobody on: .261

 

The sequence of the hits he's allowing -- basically when it matters most -- is just destroying his ERA.


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Posted 07 July 2013 - 11:32 AM

Bad luck or bad pitching, sabes or no sabes, doesn't really matter...what sucks is that Marcum has minimal trade value.  With the way this season has unfolded (and was likely to unfold), that was really his only value to the Mets...he got a reprieve with Niese's injury, but it's not going his way.     

 

The only thing that really matters is that, like you say, Marcum hasn't pitched all that well to begin with.  Trying to find sabermetric reasons as to why he's been less bad than it might seem on the surface is probably kind of pointless.  He's still been pretty bad.   


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Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
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It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 12:36 PM

This article is really disheartening: http://espn.go.com/b...e-may-stand-pat

 

MILWAUKEE -- With the July 31 trade deadline three weeks away, will the Mets be buyers or sellers? 

Maybe neither, according to a team insider.

 

...

 

As for the seller aspect, the Mets held on to Scott Hairston at last year's deadline, trying to maintain competitiveness even though they were all but out of the postseason race. 

The same may be the case this year, when the Mets could hold onto Marlon Byrd, even though he would appear to have increased his trade value with continued solid play. 

The logic: Byrd is not making much -- $700,000 -- so this is not a case like 2003, when the Mets did salary dumps of Jeromy Burnitz and Roberto Alomar, among others. The Mets would need to be persuaded to part with Byrd and sacrifice 2013 competitiveness by getting something valuable that would help them in future seasons, not just a token minor leaguer.

 

...

 

One other wrinkle to watch: The Mets are likely to call up a veteran left-handed reliever -- probably Tim Byrdak over Pedro Feliciano -- at some point in the next three weeks. That could establish some value for a trade for a team looking for a situational lefty.

 

 

 
I realize a guy like Byrd isn't going to bring back much, but jeez, enough with this holding neutral at the deadline garbage. With the exception of Beltran, who was the most obvious trade candidate that Sandy couldn't screw up if he tried, the Mets continue to refuse to sell off players who have some value. 
 
The last paragraph is hilarious: yeah, they won't trade anyone with real value but they might trade an old, oft-injured LOOGY! Wow, that should bring back a stellar haul!
 
I realize it's just an article that could really end up meaning nothing by the time the deadline passes, but it's very frustrating to read this. This front office's act is really getting old. 

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 12:53 PM

Byrd is one of those guys Sandy could tell, "Hey look, we're not going anywhere this season, but we could trade you to a possible contender, and bring you back next season."  Win-win for both sides.  I know Byrd's nothing great, but he could be a decent stopgap for the Mets again next season. 

 

At any rate, it seems risky to get nothing for him. 

 

I would consider moving Murph if someone's willing to give something up, though I can't see the return being anything special. 


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It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 01:02 PM

I know we need outfielders but I don't even want Byrd back next season. He'll be 36 and 2011-2012, when he put an 81 OPS+, is still too close in the rearview mirror. Byrd's numbers are also heavily inflated by suspicious power; he's sitting with a .224 ISO right now (ISO is just SLG% minus AVG, a simple measure for power), which would be a career high. His 2nd highest? .196 in 2009 with Texas, who play in a launching pad. His career average? .140. Seems incredibly fluky to me, especially at his age. No thanks to bringing him back. 


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Posted 07 July 2013 - 01:24 PM

That's fair nmig.  It's definitely a risk and far from ideal to bring him back.  I'd still consider it if his price was low again (less than $1 mil)...at least he's not costly.


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Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
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Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 02:48 PM

3 hits for Satin!
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Posted 07 July 2013 - 04:00 PM

Hefner's dominant run continues; obviously he isn't this good -- he has plenty of BABIP regression coming, and his peripherals point to a pitcher more deserving of an ERA around 4 -- but check out how he compares to Gee and Niese: http://www.fangraphs...=7396,1989,4424

 

Now of course Hefner has the smallest sample of the trio, and I still don't know if he's going to sustain this kind of dominance over RHB (he's been Justin Masterson-esque against them), but he's right up there in terms of defensive-independent results (FIP-) and close enough in xFIP-.

 

Now with Niese having shoulder problems and Hefner being just as valuable as Gee since 2012 as a starter (despite 40+ less innings), it's fair to wonder if Hefner may be the top arm of the group. Who would have thought that was a possibility entering 2013?


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Posted 07 July 2013 - 07:04 PM

One thing I wanted to add on Hefner is the velocity increase. Through his first four appearances this season, he averaged 90.27 mph on his 4-seam fastball. Since then he's averaged 91.92 mph on that same pitch; that's more than a +1.5 increase in velocity, which is pretty substantial.

 

And these are his numbers since finding that velocity (4/25 and beyond): 80 IP, 19 K%, 5.7 BB%, 0.66 HR/9, 2.93 ERA, 3.30 FIP.

 

Still a gap between his FIP and ERA, but not that much. Those are excellent numbers.


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Posted 08 July 2013 - 06:20 AM

Re:  Hef, let's face it, pretty much everyone to a man wondered if he'd be even able to stay in the rotation for the duration of the season...at best, we thought he'd barely be able to get by.  No one saw him being able to pitch this well.  The guy has lowered his ERA from 5.00 to 3.39 in his last 9 starts (2.09 ERA). 

 

Yeah, I would expect some regression, simply because I don't know how many times a guy like Hef can realistically be expected to have stretches that are THIS good. 

 

His numbers over that stretch:  56 IP, 51 H, 20 R, 13 ER, 10 BB, 49 K, 6 HR. 

 

One thing worth pointing out is that he's also stopped walking guys...his walks were up early in the season.  18 BB in his first 45 IP (3.6 per 9 IP).  Only 1.6 BB per 9 IP since. 

 

The good thing is, if all goes according to plan, Hef should be a #3 or a #4 in the future Mets rotation (kudos to him for basically forcing himself into the Mets' plans...I don't know how he can't be a part of them at this point, especially with not knowing what will happen with Niese. 

 

That being said, I am definitely worried about Zack Wheeler.  I know he's a rookie and I know it's a small sample, and I'm not implying in the slightest that I'm giving up on him having a bright future.  But the lack of control is scary...and the laboring that comes with it.  Some guys are able to overcome their wildness in time (it took Nolan Ryan until he was 37...in his first 3520.2 IP, the guy walked 2022 hitters (5.17 per 9 IP...for the rest of his career (1865.1 IP) he cut that down to 3.72).  Of course, for Sandy Koufax it clicked much earlier, at the age of 25 (405 BB in his first 691.2 IP, just 412 for the rest of his career (1632.2 IP)).  Not daring to compare Wheeler to either of these two guys...just a couple of guys who were heralded for their terrific stuff, but had some trouble harnessing it earlier on.  I guess I'm wondering if Zack will ever be able to do that...some guys never do, and it looks like Zack is going to need a lot of help in that regard.    


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