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Posted 04 December 2013 - 09:52 AM

Looks like all of the eggs are going into Granderson's basket.  Chris Young and Granderson are likely the outfield improvements.

 

If that's the case, here's the likely Opening Day Lineup for the 2014 Mets (with what the hopes are):

 

Lagares (improves in both OB% and batting avg)

Murphy (improves in both OB% and overall consistency)

Wright (stays healthy and doesn't let possible irrelevance and broken promises in 2014 drag him down)

Granderson (bounces back from 2013, hit 25+ HR)

Davis (shows new approach is here to stay, isn't hitting .160 by mid-June)

CYoung (pray for something approacing 2010?)

D'Arnaud (develops quickly at the plate) 

Tejada (makes something out of undeserved second chance)

 

Pretty much how it's looking, barring a trade of one of the above.  Hoping Doofus and EY don't find their way into the above mix, but there's definitely a chance that might happen. 


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 11:50 AM

One cool thing about Granderson is he's become much better at hitting lefties over the last few years:

 

RHP: .245/.343/.500, 126 wRC+
LHP: .243/.328/.512, 126 wRC+

 

That's encouraging for a team that has dealt with players who struggle against same-handed pitchers. Ike Davis, Lucas Duda, Daniel Murphy, Ruben Tejada, and even the newly signed Chris Young have all been significantly below average vs same-handed pitchers for their careers.

 

Right now my biggest concern with Granderson is how much he'll help in 2015-2016. I think he'll be fine in 2014, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if he's an average or worse regular as soon as 2015. If the team were contending in 2014, you could accept that, but that isn't happening. Could be talking about being stuck with a below average player for 2-3 years when we MIGHT actually contend.


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Posted 05 December 2013 - 07:48 AM

Other teams getting in on Granderson now (Red Sox among them). 

 

I won't be heartbroken if Grandy doesn't sign with the Mets...to me, it's a deal that has just as good a chance of being a disaster as it does a decent signing.  But it almost feels like the Mets are hoping another team comes in and outbids them so they can be "rescued".  If they don't feel strongly about bringing him in, then don't...I don't think most Mets fans will be all that upset if Grandy gets away...but enough with the appearances of trying to do something, just so you can say "Well, we're trying".  You know by now whether or not you think Grandy is a good fit, and the current Met state of affairs means you're probably going to have to overpay to bring him here, as the Mets are not exactly an attractive destination at the moment.  Either do it, or move on, but stop faking it. 


Edited by Colorado Rockies 1976, 05 December 2013 - 07:49 AM.

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 09:56 AM

The idea of giving Granderson $15M or more over 4 years is nuts. Fangraphs' Dave Cameron said he'd give Granderson 3/30 max; I'd go higher than that, but I agree with his meh viewpoint on Granderson, and I remain concerned about just how good Granderson will be in 2015-2017, when the team is more likely to contend, not 2014. For a team ready to contend as soon as this year, Granderson makes more more sense for them. I hope someone swoops him away from us, honestly. 


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Posted 05 December 2013 - 10:04 AM

The idea of giving Granderson $15M or more over 4 years is nuts. At that point why not just pony up 2 extra years and a little more cash for Choo? Fangraphs' Dave Cameron said he'd give Granderson 3/30 max; I'd go higher than that, but I agree with his meh viewpoint on Granderson, and I remain concerned about just how good Granderson will be in 2015-2017, when the team is more likely to contend, not 2014. For a team ready to contend as soon as this year, Granderson makes more more sense for them. I hope someone swoops him away from us, honestly. 

 

We're on the same page...anything more than 3/40 is too much, as far as I'm concerned, and I'm not even that tickled about 3/40.  I'm definitely not advocating the Mets giving him 4/60, but I AM saying that if their plan is to make Granderson a lukewarm offer that will easily get outbid because they're not that high on him in the first place, then stop wasting Granderson's, their own, and everyone's else time with this.  Do we think Granderson is worth a 4/50 to 4/60 overpayment?  No.  But if other teams are involved, especially an infinitely more attractive one like the Red Sox, then either decide that Granderson means so much to you that you're willing to overpay, or move the fvck on from him.  Right now it feels like the Mets are hemming and hawing for appearance's sake.   


Edited by Colorado Rockies 1976, 05 December 2013 - 10:05 AM.

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Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
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It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 01:02 PM

Seems like this guy could've been a nice bullpen addition, but I guess he wasn't on the Mets' radar.  In fairness to the Mets, they do have Vic Black:

 

http://espn.go.com/b...-boston-red-sox


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Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
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Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 02:14 PM

Royals acquired Aoki from Milwaukee...he hit a lot less doubles in 2013 than 2012, but he plays in a lot of games, hits for a decent average and gets on base at a nice clip.  Royals gave up a young reliever for him.  Seems like this guy could've been a nice fit in the Met outfield, especially one that could see EY starting or getting more playing time than he should.

 

http://espn.go.com/m.../norichika-aoki


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Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
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Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 02:29 PM

I mentioned Aoki numerous times; thought the the Brewers and Mets matched up well with their need for a 1B and the Mets' need for an outfielder. I would've been fine trading for him because he's making pennies (just under $2M), which would've allowed us to use that extra money on filling the holes around the rest of the roster. Not sure Granderson will be so much better and he's going to cost $10M more (at least) and likely require a 4 year commitment. These are what the projection systems think of both players in 2014:

 

Steamer on Granderson: 603 PA, .233/.326/.442, .336 wOBA, 112 wRC+, +2.2 WAR

Steamer on Aoki: 608 PA, .289/.355/.397, .333 wOBA, 110 wRC+, +1.8 WAR

 

Oliver on Granderson: 600 PA, .237/.327/.430, .332 wOBA, 109 wRC+, +3 WAR

Oliver on Aoki: 600 PA, .286/.355/.388, .331 wOBA, 108 wRC+, +3.1 WAR

 

With that said, Aoki will be a free agent in a year, so not really the best fit.


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Posted 05 December 2013 - 03:33 PM

This is when it's hard not to get pissed.  Yeah, he would've been a FA, but probably an affordable one, and this is a guy who is a "makes sense" fit.  Did Sandy even kick that tire?  I've got to think there was a deal that could've been made there, and Aoki would've filled a need.

 

I know Sandy is still probably a little shell-shocked by the Mets' financial situation, but he's supposed to be a guy who can find reasonably-priced talent, even if the players aren't necessarily sexy choices (but I think most fans realize you don't have to always go for the highest-profile FAs to build a team, so they're willing to be open-minded).  It feels like he's not even trying.   


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Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
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Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 03:53 PM

Agreed on a possible extension. I actually just argued that same point on a Met board I post on. 

 

I mean, even if we did trade for Aoki as a pure rental player, giving up a player or two for him would be way better than handing Granderson a 4 year deal for $12M or more. Oh speaking of what Granderson is seeking:

 

Marc Carig ‏@MarcCarig2m
Heard Granderson's been seeking a 4 year deal at $16 million per year. So, it appears that Mets may be facing a $64 million question.

 

I just hope all of these rumored pricetags are wrong and Granderson's actual market is very small given the draft pick compensation attached. He certainly appeared to be a prime player to have his market crashed by being given a Qualifying Offer, which is the reason I originally liked the idea of signing him even though I'm very lukewarm on him as a player. I mean who how many suitors are going to line up and give up a 1st round pick plus the pool allotment attached to it to sign a 33 year old outfielder who played in just 61 games last year? 

 

Hoping we hear something surprising like 3/36 plus an option but I'm not getting my hopes up.


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Posted 05 December 2013 - 04:09 PM

Oh HELL no!  I run like hell from that (4/64 or thereabouts).  Maybe if you're a team with loads of money to spend, you can somehow afford to make a mistake like that, but that could cripple the Mets.  No way no way no way!


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Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
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Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 04:18 PM

I mean, Granderson is looking for $64M probably in the same way Cano is looking for $300M or Cruz is looking for $75M. Just because a player seeks amount X doesn't mean he'll get that. But even if you bring him down to like $13M per over 4, that's still too rich for me. 3 years at $13M per or 4 at $11M per would be my max. Just have to hope his market is small due to the draft pick compensation attached. 


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Posted 05 December 2013 - 04:22 PM

I agree...you can ask, doesn't mean it will happen (and it won't in this case, though I think he will get more than what the Mets will top out at).  He comes off sounding delusional if he thinks he's worth that or anything near 4/64...especially since he costs a draft pick to boot.


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Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
- Most priceless quote ever posted on a message board.

Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 04:45 PM

Trade value rankings (top 50 players)...this article ranks Wright 19th and Harvey 17th:

 

http://www.grantland...rankings-part-2

 

Writer loves Wright's contract and the fact that he's a multi-tool player who's saber-friendly.  He likes Harvey because of his pure ability, though he laments one lost year of cheap service (2014), but feels like Harvey will be his old self in 2015.


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Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
- Most priceless quote ever posted on a message board.

Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 04:59 PM

Juan Lagares on his way to NY to get his knee examined: http://metsblog.com/...knee-looked-at/

 

Unless his bat takes a huge step forward, the only chance of Lagares being a serviceable regular is through his defense and therefore his legs. Let's hope this is nothing serious. 


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 09:58 AM

The Mets seem to be holding firm at 3 years with Granderson, which I have no problem with since no other team has really entered into serious bidding just yet. So no need to go into that 4th year unless you absolutely have to (though I think the Mets will if they have to)


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:03 AM

The Mets seem to be holding firm at 3 years with Granderson, which I have no problem with since no other team has really entered into serious bidding just yet. So no need to go into that 4th year unless you absolutely have to (though I think the Mets will if they have to)

 

Link?

 

Hope it's true...Mets really shouldn't be bending over too far to bring Granderson in...too much potential for it to crash and burn...let someone else give him four years...if the Mets' flexibility is going to be hampered, I don't want it to be because of a guy like Granderson (Mets don't have the ability to survive a bad contract).  But Sandy needs to start scouring the landscape for Aoki-types...the fact that he missed out on a guy like that shows me that Sandy isn't doing his homework at all. 


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Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
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It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:12 AM

Mike Puma has been saying that, CR. Says Mets are holding firm on 3 years and the offer is BELIEVED to be a little north of 3/45 with a possible vesting option that would probably push it to the 4/60 Granderson seeks:

 

With it unclear if there is another team willing to offer the free-agent outfielder three years, never mind four, the Mets were holding steady in negotiations on Thursday.

 

On the table for Granderson was a three-year contract believed to be worth just north of $45 million with possibly a vesting option for 2017. But the 32-year-old outfielder has sought a four-year guaranteed deal that would bring the total value of the package past $60 million, according to an industry source.

 

 

http://nypost.com/20...erson-4th-year/
 

Still not liking the way this deal is headed. 


Edited by nmigliore, 06 December 2013 - 10:13 AM.

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:28 AM

Mike Puma has been saying that, CR. Says Mets are holding firm on 3 years and the offer is BELIEVED to be a little north of 3/45 with a possible vesting option that would probably push it to the 4/60 Granderson seeks:

 

 

http://nypost.com/20...erson-4th-year/
 

Still not liking the way this deal is headed. 

 

No, me neither, that's too much...gotta be more cost-effective options out there than that. 


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It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 11:29 AM

No, me neither, that's too much...gotta be more cost-effective options out there than that. 

 

With Cano on Seattle now...would it really shock me if a panicked Yankees came and stole him from under our noses? no.

 

They're out there. Jason Kubel....Rajai Davis. We may end up kicking those tires

 

I think the Yankees may settle on Choo. Not that they're gaga on him. He's not the HR threat that Granderson is, nor can he hit lefties.


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