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#21 SterioDesign

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 05:12 PM

don't forget Larsson's sick slapshot pass that he will soon trademark

 

unfortunately Pietrangelo just signed his patent.

 

 

i still can't believe that pass... sigh...


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Posted 21 February 2013 - 05:30 PM

unfortunately Pietrangelo just signed his patent.

 

 

i still can't believe that pass... sigh...

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 05:46 PM

It's not gonna matter how many times you watch that. That's a perfect pass if there ever was one.


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Posted 21 February 2013 - 06:01 PM

personally while i agree that he improved i still havent seen anything from him telling me that he'll be an impact player for us... what i saw is that he will be an NHL player and not a liability and be alright at the very least, still young though and it takes time but i wouldnt pencil him a shoe in impact player / franchise dman for us just yet. I simply havent seen flashes of it yet like i remember seeing flashes of Karlsson, pietrangelo, doughty, subban, etc etc younger in their careers

 

i certainly fvcking hope so that he become that guy though we need it

 

You have the wrong comps here - Larsson is not like any of those guys.  Larsson is going to be a force in the D zone and at shot prevention.  Also all four of those guys are HOF talent, there's a level between that and average player which I feel pretty confident that Larsson will hit.


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Posted 21 February 2013 - 06:10 PM

You have the wrong comps here - Larsson is not like any of those guys.  Larsson is going to be a force in the D zone and at shot prevention.  Also all four of those guys are HOF talent, there's a level between that and average player which I feel pretty confident that Larsson will hit.


That's a little disappointing, or to be more precise, boring, compared to what you would have hoped to have gotten with the number four pick for a team that almost never drafts that high. Personally I think he has more offensive upside. Not like Karlsson, but in a few years he could be a ten goal forty to fifty point player. If he gets a little more confidence, he should be a power play regular in a few years.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 06:14 PM

You have the wrong comps here - Larsson is not like any of those guys.  Larsson is going to be a force in the D zone and at shot prevention.  Also all four of those guys are HOF talent, there's a level between that and average player which I feel pretty confident that Larsson will hit.

Compare these guys' 18-19 year old season to Larsson's.

Karlsson wasn't in the league
Doughty- 6-21-27 in 81
Pietrangelo wasn't in the league
Subban wasn't an NHL player until he was 21

A LOT can happen in 2 years for a young defenseman

Edit- I believe Larsson will end up a lot like Pitkanen

Edited by SMantzas, 21 February 2013 - 06:17 PM.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 06:58 PM

I really think Larsson is a great pick, should pay off soon.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 07:11 PM

personally while i agree that he improved i still havent seen anything from him telling me that he'll be an impact player for us... what i saw is that he will be an NHL player and not a liability and be alright at the very least, still young though and it takes time but i wouldnt pencil him a shoe in impact player / franchise dman for us just yet. I simply havent seen flashes of it yet like i remember seeing flashes of Karlsson, pietrangelo, doughty, subban, etc etc younger in their careers

 

i certainly fvcking hope so that he become that guy though we need it

My sentiments exactly.  Frankly, I don't see it either.  I think he should be made into a forward because he's not good with the puck in a tight spot in his own zone.  He's also scary carrying the puck.  I feel like he's going to get his head taken off every time he holds it for any substantial amount of time.  I hope I'm wrong but I don't see Larsson becoming an overall impact defenseman that would warrant his top 5 pick.  It's early so I'm hoping he's not Zyuzin.


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Posted 21 February 2013 - 07:17 PM

Hes been improving well, but he still blindly throws the puck into a bad place once or twice a game. But for the most part his reads have been much better this year. He does still get his bell rung a lot though.


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Posted 21 February 2013 - 07:19 PM

I have no worries about Larsson. He reminds me so much how Hedman looked early on, only smaller. Yes, he makes mistakes but he's still so young. You can see the talent there, you'd just like to see him be more consistent with it which will come with time and experience (hopefully).


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Posted 21 February 2013 - 07:56 PM

Larson is playing great hockey, he is a franchise player for years to come.


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Posted 21 February 2013 - 08:29 PM

My sentiments exactly.  Frankly, I don't see it either.  I think he should be made into a forward because he's not good with the puck in a tight spot in his own zone.  He's also scary carrying the puck.  I feel like he's going to get his head taken off every time he holds it for any substantial amount of time.  I hope I'm wrong but I don't see Larsson becoming an overall impact defenseman that would warrant his top 5 pick.  It's early so I'm hoping he's not Zyuzin.

 

This is the most absurd suggestion I've seen posted here in quite some time.


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Posted 21 February 2013 - 08:47 PM

This is the most absurd suggestion I've seen posted here in quite some time.

Why? because of his immaculate defense?  People are looking at this guy through tinted lenses.  He has not been a good defenseman.  He's young, so you give him time.  But, that should be done in the minors. There's a reason he couldn't crack the lineup early on.  There is also no way he should be playing over Fayne and Tallinder.  He's slow and he gets beat constantly.  That is never going to change.  I hope that he is able to compensate with intelligence as he grows.  Right now, I don't see it. However, I would love to see him use that great shot of his off the wing and see him set up some guys from there as well.


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Posted 21 February 2013 - 08:53 PM

Why? because of his immaculate defense?  People are looking at this guy through tinted lenses.  He has not been a good defenseman.  He's young, so you give him time.  But, that should be done in the minors. There's a reason he couldn't crack the lineup early on.  There is also no way he should be playing over Fayne and Tallinder.  He's slow and he gets beat constantly.  That is never going to change.  I hope that he is able to compensate with intelligence as he grows.  Right now, I don't see it. However, I would love to see him use that great shot of his off the wing and see him set up some guys from there as well.

 

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 08:56 PM

Larsson would make a crappy forward, most likely.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 09:09 PM

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 09:34 PM

Why? because of his immaculate defense?  People are looking at this guy through tinted lenses.  He has not been a good defenseman.  He's young, so you give him time.  But, that should be done in the minors. There's a reason he couldn't crack the lineup early on.  There is also no way he should be playing over Fayne and Tallinder.  He's slow and he gets beat constantly.  That is never going to change.  I hope that he is able to compensate with intelligence as he grows.  Right now, I don't see it. However, I would love to see him use that great shot of his off the wing and see him set up some guys from there as well.

 

A 20 year old defenseman is never going to improve? Are you being serious?


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Posted 21 February 2013 - 09:35 PM

Well, Greene and him are the best passing d-pairing in the lineup (possibly, probably? the best 2 passers on the d), which is going to help generate quality chances, hence higher shooting percentage. They've also done a good job taking away the easy shots, forcing people to shoot from farther out, worse angles, etc. Sure, there's some puck luck, maybe even a lot, but I've noticed good players tend to get lucky a decent amount, and I think the Larsson Greene pairing does a lot of little things right. I'd be happier if Larsson did more big things, but there's a lot to be said for being a solid all around player. I see him at least being a better Paul Martin, and we should all miss him if we don't.


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Posted 21 February 2013 - 09:44 PM

A 20 year old defenseman is never going to improve? Are you being serious?

I never said he wasn't going to improve.  A players footspeed is what it is.


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Posted 21 February 2013 - 09:52 PM

I never said he wasn't going to improve.  A players footspeed is what it is.

 

I would disagree with this.  Players can get quicker.  In Larsson's case it isn't even his speed, it's his quickness in transitioning into his backwards skate, it's poor, and that's a technique that can certainly improve.


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