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#161 EdgeControl

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 08:12 PM

clarkson is 5% in the last 6 w 1 goal   larsson still has some rookie moments  moose was more bad than good  couldnt get the forecheck cooking Jets did a very good job on the breakout  and had good stick work in the neutral zone. our centers left the deep slot open way too much. A=train when you get beat deal with it! hopefully we dont get too many more injuries


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Posted 24 February 2013 - 08:17 PM

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 08:18 PM

not to knock on Kovy but he needs to either

 

a) play less so he can hustle more

b) play harder

 

i always assume he's pacing himself so it explains why he's not always hustling and playing hard but when you're used to watch guys like Zach wide open chasing guys trying to lift their stick, backchecking like crazy and skating in circles around guys and literally being hell to play against. And then you see Kovy coasting all the time... its a bit frustrating, Kovy is a guy who can change a game with a good pass or a one timer while standing but his lack of effort is hurting the team from time to time.  Reeaaaaaalllllllly often you'll see a puck carrier skate around Kovy and he'll just coast after him knocking his gloves with his stick.

 

that being said.. if Kovy would get injured for awhile, this team would be done.


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#164 maxpower

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 08:22 PM

not to knock on Kovy but he needs to either

 

a) play less so he can hustle more

b) play harder

 

i always assume he's pacing himself so it explains why he's not always hustling and playing hard but when you're used to watch guys like Zach wide open chasing guys trying to lift their stick, backchecking like crazy and skating in circles around guys and literally being hell to play against. And then you see Kovy coasting all the time... its a bit frustrating, Kovy is a guy who can change a game with a good pass or a one timer while standing but his lack of effort is hurting the team from time to time.  Reeaaaaaalllllllly often you'll see a puck carrier skate around Kovy and he'll just coast after him knocking his gloves with his stick.

 

He's not a good in-zone defender.    It stands out now because he's not doing anything 5 on 5.    He's a transition defender.   If he makes a good play around you or you make a mistake around him, you're fvcked.

 

I'm not worried about his defensive play, that's not what he's here to do, he's here to snipe rockets from the left side of the ice.    But apparently only Bobby Butler can play LW with a right hand shot.


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Posted 24 February 2013 - 08:31 PM

He's not a good in-zone defender.    It stands out now because he's not doing anything 5 on 5.    He's a transition defender.   If he makes a good play around you or you make a mistake around him, you're fvcked.

 

I'm not worried about his defensive play, that's not what he's here to do, he's here to snipe rockets from the left side of the ice.    But apparently only Bobby Butler can play LW with a right hand shot.

 

yeah thats true... and yeah... i really like DeBoer but hes got that one wrong saying that Kovy did well last year on the RW so why would we change that? mmmm well Kovy became a superstar and scored about 95% of his goal from the left side in his career... why would YOU change that. Even this year Kovy often scored coming from the left side. 


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Posted 24 February 2013 - 08:34 PM

Ok I'm not going to say we are the worst team in the east but...
The Devils have only two wins in their last seven games.
Where the hell have I been? Really they've only beating Washington and Philly lately?
That's truly pathetic.
Whatever honestly this is the team everyone expected the Devils to be. Be thankful for the good start because now that everyone's back up to speed the Devils will most likely be playing like this the rest of the year.
A win here..two losses..an OT win..a loss..a win..etc.
Teams like Montreal and the Pens, Bruins look like a much much better team after 20 games.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 08:41 PM

Where: Behind the goal line in the offensive zone

Position: Offensive player with the puck

Subsequent play that needs to be drastically reduced in order to maintain a level of sanity and eliminate

one-dimensional hockey: The bank pass off the boards to the point...where the defenseman proceeds to slow-wrist the puck in the general direction of the goal as a prayer in hopes of a deflection.

 

While we are at it, can we please attack the middle of the ice more on the attack? I know we live by the forecheck but that doesnt mean its gotta be forecheck 100% of the time. Attack the middle of the ice on the rush and off the boards sometimes! keep the other team honest and take the space they give you!

 

Our D look so slow, too...particularly larsson and volchenkov

 

Unacceptable to perform like this for your fans. Lazy skating, unimaginative play. Disgraceful to play like that in front of your fans.


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#168 NJDevs4978

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 08:43 PM

It's not that Kovy's not on the left side during five-on-five, it's that Kovy isn't on the left side during the darn power play.  The first PP was a microcosm of everything that's wrong with it right now, after the first five seconds when (heaven forbid) Kovy actually rocketed a one-timer, they resumed their 'system' of circling around to their non-shooting sides and just passing away two minutes.


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Posted 24 February 2013 - 09:17 PM

He's not a good in-zone defender.    It stands out now because he's not doing anything 5 on 5.    He's a transition defender.   If he makes a good play around you or you make a mistake around him, you're fvcked.

 

I'm not worried about his defensive play, that's not what he's here to do, he's here to snipe rockets from the left side of the ice.    But apparently only Bobby Butler can play LW with a right hand shot.

 

Zubrus, Carter, and Matteau are hurt - that's 3 left handed shots.  Tedenby was tried here, didn't work, and he's also hurt.  They're sticking Butler there only because of injury.


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Posted 24 February 2013 - 09:23 PM

Where: Behind the goal line in the offensive zone

Position: Offensive player with the puck

Subsequent play that needs to be drastically reduced in order to maintain a level of sanity and eliminate

one-dimensional hockey: The bank pass off the boards to the point...where the defenseman proceeds to slow-wrist the puck in the general direction of the goal as a prayer in hopes of a deflection.

 

While we are at it, can we please attack the middle of the ice more on the attack? I know we live by the forecheck but that doesnt mean its gotta be forecheck 100% of the time. Attack the middle of the ice on the rush and off the boards sometimes! keep the other team honest and take the space they give you!

 

Our D look so slow, too...particularly larsson and volchenkov

 

Unacceptable to perform like this for your fans. Lazy skating, unimaginative play. Disgraceful to play like that in front of your fans.

 

Where the fvck we're you when it seems i was the only one seeing and describing EXACTLY what you just said and was getting calling off as if i was crazy?


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Posted 24 February 2013 - 09:33 PM

Zubrus, Carter, and Matteau are hurt - that's 3 left handed shots.  Tedenby was tried here, didn't work, and he's also hurt.  They're sticking Butler there only because of injury.

 

Well, maybe they should roll him back due to the emergency.   How many 5 on 5 points does Kovy have this season on the 1st line?    Clarkson's deal with Satan has expired, so they're going to have to figure out a way to score goals 5 on 5.   Might as well move your best player back to his natural position, since this experiment isn't working when the LW is "random parade of scrubs."


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Posted 24 February 2013 - 09:33 PM

There was one big thing that bothered me tonight when watching our play in the offensive zone. It seemed like when the d-man would take a shot and it would actually get through, all 3 forwards would break the exact same direction. Create some chaos and confusion, don't make it so one guy can cover three. It makes no sense. Also, the Devils don't take the open ice they're given and constantly try to drive the puck into congested areas instead of taking it to the open ones. I saw both of those things happen more than once tonight and just could not fathom them.


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Posted 24 February 2013 - 09:37 PM

What did they say about Brodeur's injury on the broadcast? I just watched the video on the Devs website and he said he hurt his back while a buddy I was texting said it was his bicep?


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Posted 24 February 2013 - 09:51 PM

There was one big thing that bothered me tonight when watching our play in the offensive zone. It seemed like when the d-man would take a shot and it would actually get through, all 3 forwards would break the exact same direction. Create some chaos and confusion, don't make it so one guy can cover three. It makes no sense. Also, the Devils don't take the open ice they're given and constantly try to drive the puck into congested areas instead of taking it to the open ones. I saw both of those things happen more than once tonight and just could not fathom them.

 

That too, they seem to be going down the middle a lot more lately but its unreal how often they'll be skating the wing in the neutral zone, they'll have a dman at the blueline about... 4 feet from the boards and the middle is wide open, yet they'll try to squeeze or dump the puck or send it around the boards. THATS what im saying since last year that they keep on doing and they are not creating scoring chances at all out of it. they are just giving away possession waiting for a mistake or a lost fight from the Ds to try to get a shot out of it.


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Posted 24 February 2013 - 09:57 PM

Well that game was a waste of time. The fireworks were nice at least.


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Posted 24 February 2013 - 10:01 PM

The brighter side: Loktionov looks good in every game so far.


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Posted 24 February 2013 - 10:05 PM

The brighter side: Loktionov looks good in every game so far.

 

totally agree. im trying not to get my hopes up but he's clearly NHL level from what i see he's smart defensively his positioning is good, he working hard and he's creating plays and get scoring chances. it already look like a steal to get him for a 5th


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Posted 24 February 2013 - 10:09 PM

The brighter side: Loktionov looks good in every game so far.

 

They better find a way to get him on the power play soon, especially with how much the 5-on-4 PP stinks.


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Posted 24 February 2013 - 10:14 PM

They better find a way to get him on the power play soon, especially with how much the 5-on-4 PP stinks.

Switch out Bernier for Lokti. Need a better playmaker on that unit.


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Posted 24 February 2013 - 10:18 PM

i just think our PP has to create more panic they are simply passing the puck between point men back and forth waiting for the right opportunity. They wait and wait for the big one timer and when we finally have that opportunity, if we miss the net or get a save well thats like 40 secondes out of the windows. they need to just send puck to the net for rebounds and creating panic and make the other team run around a little, the other team doesnt have to move at all they just follow the puck to block the passing lane for the point guys and thats it.

 

actually... thats the problem to me... 5 on 5 and on the PP... the guys always go with the same system trying to do the same thing trying to lead to "that opportunity" but when "that opportunity" happen... if we miss we're fvcked... or if that opportunity never happen were even more fvcked


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