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#1 SterioDesign

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 09:42 AM

Even though i still don't really like Clarkson, he's a very useful player and he knows it. I'm a bit worried about him signing elsewhere this summer. Even though on one side he seems loyal and considering Lou gave him a chance and everything and that he apparently loves this organization i think he would stay.

 

But on the other hand Clarkson seems incredibly selfish at time and i wouldnt be surprised if he'd like to get paid a lot and see what's out there especially since Toronto is starting to get something decent going, who knows.

 

Plus obviously Lou will wait few days before free agency to begin talks probably so if i'm a player, why not wait a few extra days and see my value on the market ?

 

Then in term of salary what do you guys think he's worth and what he will ask for?


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 10:05 AM

As we have learned, business is business and when July 1st rolls around, players will take into consideration all the factors necessary to determine their future.

If the difference between the Devils and another team amounts to $500K or less, then I'm sure Clarky will take a home-team discount.

However, if someone throws stupid money at him I wouldn't be surprised to let him walk.

IMO, Clarkson, being VERY VERY VERY VERY generous, isn't worth more than $3.7 million per year.

If someone throws $5 million at him, he's gone.
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 10:10 AM

As we have learned, business is business and when July 1st rolls around, players will take into consideration all the factors necessary to determine their future.

If the difference between the Devils and another team amounts to $500K or less, then I'm sure Clarky will take a home-team discount.

However, if someone throws stupid money at him I wouldn't be surprised to let him walk.

IMO, Clarkson, being VERY VERY VERY VERY generous, isn't worth more than $3.7 million per year.

If someone throws $5 million at him, he's gone.

 

clarkson could get 5m easily on the market, easily


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 10:22 AM

I think anything more than 4/16 is stupid money
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 10:26 AM

If someone like Ville Leino can get what he got, there's no reason Clarkson can't get $5m, being the rare commodity that he is (even if he can't skate). I'd probably pay up to $5m but no more than that and that's just bc that's probably the only chance to keep him 


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 10:28 AM

My gut tells me he really does like Jersey. He knows how lucky he is to be playing in the NHL and that Lou is the one that gave him the chance to do that. Deboer is the coach that made Clarkson what he is in the first place, and is the reason he even kept playing hockey. He's doing a TON of charity work in the area, is part of the Hockey in Newark program and has Clarky's Kids in the area also.

 

All those things leads me to believe he'll take a slight discount to stay in Jersey if Lou wants him to. I'm going to go a bit higher then SMantzas and say he signs for 4.5 mill per or if Lou thinks he can hold up to a longer contract 4 mill per.

 

4/18 or maybe 6/24.



If someone like Ville Leino can get what he got, there's no reason Clarkson can't get $5m, being the rare commodity that he is (even if he can't skate). I'd probably pay up to $5m but no more than that and that's just bc that's probably the only chance to keep him 

 

I can see him getting 5 mill...that's why I said with the discount maybe he'd stay in Jersey for 4.5


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 10:29 AM

I think he'll resign for a $3.9M / 4 years...


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 10:43 AM

we have to resign him, who's going to replace him,  Kessell? ribeiro, perry?  whats zub and patty getting?


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 11:39 AM

i think his agent would have a fair case using Lucic's contract as a template, which is not good. 4m cap hit now and 6m when his extension kicks in next summer


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 11:44 AM

He'll stay and he'll know he's not worth $5M per. He deserves at least $3.5M per if not $4-4.5M if he can continue to score.  $5M is too high. Anything over $4.5 and I'd walk away from Clarkson. He definitely seems to guzzle the kool-aid though and he has always had great things to say about being here even when things were bad and even more so now that time are(were, depends on your outlook) good-er-ish.

 

i think his agent would have a fair case using Lucic's contract as a template, which is not good. 4m cap hit now and 6m when his extension kicks in next summer

Lucic is bigger, stronger and better than Clarkson. Clarkson is a 2nd tier power forward. He's good, not elite in any way, shape or form though. He honestly shouldn't be on our 1st line. I'd almost rather see him with Kovy, just so he can face weaker competition as opposed to being with Patty and getting the tough assignments.


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 12:11 PM

4/20 book it
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 12:15 PM

He'll stay and he'll know he's not worth $5M per. He deserves at least $3.5M per if not $4-4.5M if he can continue to score.  $5M is too high. Anything over $4.5 and I'd walk away from Clarkson. He definitely seems to guzzle the kool-aid though and he has always had great things to say about being here even when things were bad and even more so now that time are(were, depends on your outlook) good-er-ish.

 

Lucic is bigger, stronger and better than Clarkson. Clarkson is a 2nd tier power forward. He's good, not elite in any way, shape or form though. He honestly shouldn't be on our 1st line. I'd almost rather see him with Kovy, just so he can face weaker competition as opposed to being with Patty and getting the tough assignments.

 

I know but Zach said all the same things.

 

And it was not my personal comparison but his agent will go for it and use the "facts" that works his way. i really hope we can keep him on a discount cause by experience we KNOW Clarkson could get crazy and unreal money on the market, just like half the signed agent during free agency


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 12:25 PM

Power forwards who can hit, fight, score and are tough...the league would be falling over themselves to sign him. I can't see him signing for less than 4.5 AAV. He'd have to be damn stupid or have an incompetent agent to get less. If he has a decent continuation of the season he could push up close to Lucic-money.

 

Is he worth that though? Another discussion. But Clarkie will get paid bigtime.


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 12:29 PM

I know but Zach said all the same things.

 

And it was not my personal comparison but his agent will go for it and use the "facts" that works his way. i really hope we can keep him on a discount cause by experience we KNOW Clarkson could get crazy and unreal money on the market, just like half the signed agent during free agency

Clarkson came in with nothing though. Parise knew he would be a good player who could cash in by season 2. Clarky was nowhere near a UFA commodity until last year, so now that he's seen how he was treated when he was not big, compared to now and he'll see nothing has changed here. He'll always be who he was here, not who he is now. If he goes somewhere else, he'll be seen as a 30 goal scorer and when he stops putting up numbers like that, that team and he will suffer for it, but staying here with a slightly discounted contract, he'll be able to drop to scoring 20 goals and we'll all still know that's just fine for him.


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 12:30 PM

If Clarkson wants to be a Devil next, he will be. Lou will be fair but he won't overpay.
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 12:32 PM

5/25 is where I expect him to end and the devils are not in a position to lose him.
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 12:35 PM

I don't get why people are under-valuing him. He brings an element to the game that not a lot of other players can do. He can fight, shoot, strong on the boards, and even makes a nifty pass when you don't expect it. Some may argue he's just in the right spot at the right times, but if it were anyone else, you'd be saying he has a good hockey sense. He's going to get 4/20.

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 01:27 PM

I don't get why people are under-valuing him. He brings an element to the game that not a lot of other players can do. He can fight, shoot, strong on the boards, and even makes a nifty pass when you don't expect it. Some may argue he's just in the right spot at the right times, but if it were anyone else, you'd be saying he has a good hockey sense. He's going to get 4/20.

 

Because he had one real good season and has scored well in the first 15 games and not so much since. He still has fluke written all over him until he does it again next year.


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 01:34 PM

My gut tells me he really does like Jersey. He knows how lucky he is to be playing in the NHL and that Lou is the one that gave him the chance to do that. Deboer is the coach that made Clarkson what he is in the first place, and is the reason he even kept playing hockey. He's doing a TON of charity work in the area, is part of the Hockey in Newark program and has Clarky's Kids in the area also.

 

All those things leads me to believe he'll take a slight discount to stay in Jersey if Lou wants him to. I'm going to go a bit higher then SMantzas and say he signs for 4.5 mill per or if Lou thinks he can hold up to a longer contract 4 mill per.

 

4/18 or maybe 6/24.



 

I can see him getting 5 mill...that's why I said with the discount maybe he'd stay in Jersey for 4.5

For what it's worth, unless something has changed very recently, Clarky's Kids is based in Kitchener, Ontario and is run through the Kitchener Rangers.  Doesn't mean he doesn't do anything in the NJ area but I don't think his personal charity is going to make or break whether he remains a Devil.


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 01:38 PM

If he continues to be MIA for the rest of the season, he won't cost us that much.


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