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#141 NJDevs4978

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 10:13 PM

They're not substantially worse 5 on 5, if they're worse at all.  Losing Salvador and Gionta was certainly a boost to the team too.

 

lol I knew someone would go there :rolleyes:

 

They've been playing fairly well defensively with Sal recently.  I'd rather have seen Sal on the ice than Larsson/Volch/Harrold when they were ****ing up at times.  Losing Gionta was no factor, it's not like our offense became great finishers :P  There's no advantage to playing with sixteen skaters, especially when one guy you know can play 25-30 minutes when needed isn't even around, and some of the other scrubs on the third/fourth line can't even add the spark Gio does.

 

It's just the same **** it's been.  Give effort, can't finish, lose OT/SO.  Thankfully Marty's only allowed four goals in the three games but he's still fighting it out there too.


Edited by NJDevs4978, 25 March 2013 - 10:14 PM.

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 10:19 PM

We've outshot our opponents in practically every game the last month. It's not "bad luck" if it happens 20 games in a row. We're just not a very talented offensive team.. We miss Zach, and now we'll miss Kovy.
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Posted 25 March 2013 - 10:23 PM

Atleast kovy will be back unlike zach and hopefully we won't have to miss him for too long.. Maybe we will have someone to replace Parise for next season.
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Posted 25 March 2013 - 10:28 PM

We've outshot our opponents in practically every game the last month. It's not "bad luck" if it happens 20 games in a row. We're just not a very talented offensive team.. We miss Zach, and now we'll miss Kovy.

 

Don't get the stats guys started lol.  All we'll hear about how it's impossible to maintain such a bad shooting percentage :lol:

 

Doesn't help when you're brain-dead in your shot choices - like basically anything Clarkson throws at the net from his back foot, or the shootout when three of the four shooters didn't even attempt to get Bishop to move, just firing it into his body.  The one that made him move scored, go figure.


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Posted 25 March 2013 - 11:08 PM

We've outshot our opponents in practically every game the last month. It's not "bad luck" if it happens 20 games in a row. We're just not a very talented offensive team.. We miss Zach, and now we'll miss Kovy.

 

No, we have dogsh!t goaltending.  People bitch and moan about perimeter shots, and the Devils aren't good shooters, well what the hell is Chris Phillips from outside the circle?  But the puck goes in.  And the Devils are behind AGAIN and teams outshoot when behind.  And on goal #2 there's a lot wrong there but there's also a juicy rebound served up to Greening.  The Devils' D allow 14 shots on goal and Brodeur lets in two of them.  There's your problem - he lets in 1, NJ probably wins this game.  They played more than well enough to do that.

 

You get 1 power play in a game, you shouldn't be scoring more than 2 goals all that often without some good fortune.  It's a tough league.  But your goalie has to make stops, and ours aren't.  That's why we're outshooting teams.  And that's why we're not winning.


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Posted 25 March 2013 - 11:11 PM

Gutsy effort from the team except Larsson. Even tostito gave a solid contribution. That was the worst I've seen from Larsson to date.
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Posted 25 March 2013 - 11:15 PM

They're not substantially worse 5 on 5, if they're worse at all.  Losing Salvador and Gionta was certainly a boost to the team too.


You can keep telling yourself that. it's easy to say that after this game since the entire team rallied and arguably put forth their best effort of the season (save for the first 9 mins)
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Posted 25 March 2013 - 11:24 PM

You can keep telling yourself that. it's easy to say that after this game since the entire team rallied and arguably put forth their best effort of the season (save for the first 9 mins)

 

I'm not telling myself that, it's true.  Just about every Devil has better numbers when they are not playing with Salvador or Gionta.  Losing both, well that's surely going to pick things up.


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Posted 25 March 2013 - 11:33 PM

This NJ team has massive potential with some streaky goaltending. When zubrus kovalchuk and poni get healthy you should have 4very balanced puck possession lines (loki and kovi obviously with soft minutes). This has to be one of the better defensive devils teams in a long time.
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Posted 25 March 2013 - 11:41 PM

Zubrus-Loktionov-Kovalchuk
Elias-Zajac-Clarkson
Ponikarovski-Henrique-D'Agostini
Carter-Josefson-Bernier

Do people realize how strong that would be
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Posted 25 March 2013 - 11:42 PM

I'm not telling myself that, it's true.  Just about every Devil has better numbers when they are not playing with Salvador or Gionta.  Losing both, well that's surely going to pick things up.


I was talking about Kovy at ES

Zubrus-Loktionov-Kovalchuk
Elias-Zajac-Clarkson
Ponikarovski-Henrique-D'Agostini
Carter-Josefson-Bernier
Do people realize how strong that would be


Agreed, can't wait to see that!
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Posted 25 March 2013 - 11:59 PM

Zubrus-Loktionov-Kovalchuk
Elias-Zajac-Clarkson
Ponikarovski-Henrique-D'Agostini
Carter-Josefson-Bernier
Do people realize how strong that would be


Might be too late by the time we see that though...
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Posted 26 March 2013 - 02:30 AM

Might be too late by the time we see that though...

 

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 07:57 AM

I thought Bernier had a great game
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Posted 26 March 2013 - 08:34 AM

I really like Kstop's contribution to the team thus far. Stuck up for Sestito when got boarded last game and has been making pretty nifty plays in offensive zone. If only he and his linemate can cash in on a goal...
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Posted 26 March 2013 - 09:37 AM

What more can be said about Loki, the guy is shifty and has a serious scoring flash we were missing.


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Posted 26 March 2013 - 09:42 AM

<p>The best thing about Sal being out is that MAYBE he will have improved upon his return. Maybe he'll feel he has to prove something or just find that spark he found in the playoffs last season.&nbsp; Any leadership he's providing he can do in street clothes as far as I can see - let him on ice for encouraging fist taps and helmet bumps - all the value none of the damage <img class="bbc_emoticon" src="http://www.njdevs.co...lt/thumbsup.gif" title=":thumbsup:" /></p>
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<p>AND I think I've discovered the first thing I don't like about DeBoer - his whole I burnt my ass now I have to sit on the blister kind of obtuse style.&nbsp; The man needs to understand it's OK to cut bait.&nbsp; It's like he's got this anglo abnegation thing going on - dude - it's not honorable to stay the losing course just because you started down it.&nbsp; You CAN change your mind and quickly run a little bit through the woods to find the path that actually reaches your destination. It's not dishonorable to change tack. I'm not really seeing that DeBoer understand this. It's like he over-learned a lesson down in FL {EDIT - I think he's doing everything right - there is nothing I'd change at this particular moment - but DeBoer's intuiting that things will work out - I'm intuiting that things will collapse if a few guys don't get their heads in a productive place - hich I personally don't think they are capable of doing. :noclue: so sue me...)</p>
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<p>sorry to be a downer. I'm not too down when they lose but I'm not too up when they win.&nbsp; I hate having to rely on things going their way. The collected mindset is just a little too shaky for me these days. I think it was a great effort and I do think there are good signs things are solidifying.&nbsp; Just keep moving forward!!</p>

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 11:26 AM

Wasn't sure where to put this, but I had this thought while watching last night's game, so I thought this is as good a place as any.

What I was thinking was, why was Loktionov so hell bent on playing center? I mean the guys reasoning for wanting out of LA was saying there's no room at center, and as soon as he arrived in NJ he was telling people he wanted to be a center. But, looking at his game, and his sniping ability, it seems for sure he's the quintessential sniping winger. And on the other hand, I haven't really seen any great play making ability from him to bode him a center spot, so what gives? Is it a matter of comfort in a position he's played his whole life? Does he enjoy the defensive responsibility of a center? It just seems weird to me and I wanted to know what you guys thought.
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Posted 26 March 2013 - 11:28 AM

Lokti hasn't been a sniper at any level, he just doesn't shoot it enough to be a big goal scorer over the long run.


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Posted 26 March 2013 - 11:44 AM

Lokti hasn't been a sniper at any level, he just doesn't shoot it enough to be a big goal scorer over the long run.

You're right and I don't think anyone should expect more than 15 from him in a full season. I think he will maintain a high shooting percentage (like 14%) because he only shoots when he has prime opportunities. I wish he would shoot more because his shot is actually pretty decent


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