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#561 Devilsfan118

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 09:35 PM

Well this thread went awry real quick.

 

CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?

 

Edit:  Except you, LD, you bastard master troll.  We will never get along  :thumbsup:


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#562 iamtheprodigy

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 09:42 PM

Well i can totally agree that i can piss people off with some of my arguments that im throwing here and there but my arguments are pissing people off, its never about my way of interacting with others as if im disrespecting others.

 

I don't think you (or Triumph for that matter) go around with ill-intentions but there have definitely been times where you came off that way. We all come off a bit harsher than we mean to sometimes because we're all passionate about hockey. That's part of what keeps the forum interesting. But the repeated arguments that tend to revolve around the same people get old, and I think we all know who those people are. Like Triumph said, DM can kick out anybody who crosses the line, and I think we should leave it to him to decide if that's the case with anybody. All the "you should change the way you post" talk is a bunch of crock, coming from either side.

 

Anyway I'm sorry for further derailing the thread when I said I wouldn't. I am trying to think of something on-topic to say but now that the deadline is over, most of the trade discussion had died down anyway. I guess what I can say is that seeing all the Rangers' new players scoring tonight made me want to puke.


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#563 Triumph

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 09:54 PM

I remarked this to someone, but at least it wasn't Sam and Joe giggling over the new Rangers acquisitions 'going Fleury', though that's small consolation


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 09:54 PM

Quite frankly, I just don't understand why the hell CBJ would make that trade.  Unless they are planning on turning Gaborik into another package later.  It's not like they were a player away from anything.  Just stupid.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 10:05 PM

Quite frankly, I just don't understand why the hell CBJ would make that trade.  Unless they are planning on turning Gaborik into another package later.  It's not like they were a player away from anything.  Just stupid.

A few playoff games would give them some good revenue for a change. Maybe they think Gaborik can help them make the postseason.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 10:09 PM

Quite frankly, I just don't understand why the hell CBJ would make that trade.  Unless they are planning on turning Gaborik into another package later.  It's not like they were a player away from anything.  Just stupid.

CBJ were doing good without this trade, they got their #1 starter with Bob, they are rising and if Gaborik can play with confidence he can make a much better impact for them.

 

 

Zubie- There in the race without Gaborik and they have and always had a strong fan base for a lower level team.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 10:10 PM

A few playoff games would give them some good revenue for a change. Maybe they think Gaborik can help them make the postseason.


Just think its risky on their part... The players they gave were all underachieving but they were all fairly young and could have turned the corner eventually... If gaborik goes down they have lots a lot...

But gaborik is a star player and the organization needed that too since nash is gone, they needed that to sell the game.
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 10:19 PM

When was the last time Columbus had increased revenue from the playoffs, 2008?....it would be nice for the franchise to make the playoffs so thats why they made a big splash. Gaborik might be rejuvenated going to CLB and he has some familiar faces over there. Lets see what happens, I am rooting for them.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 10:24 PM

When was the last time Columbus had increased revenue from the playoffs, 2008?....it would be nice for the franchise to make the playoffs so thats why they made a big splash. Gaborik might be rejuvenated going to CLB and he has some familiar faces over there. Lets see what happens.

Talking a fan base, for at team that isn't so threatening they have a dam good fan base. Like Minnesota, not a real winning team but a huge fan base no matter what . Their a hockey city. Or say the Cleveland Browns of football they suck yet they have one of the BIGGEST fan bases in the nfl ultimately. Winning isn't everything for a fan base, Anaheim seems to struggle yet their a powerhouse, Dallas been one of the worst, they've had a jump this year more then any other teams(Jagr?).


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 10:26 PM

They lost eighteen million in operating income last year, they only broke even two times. Their team value went down every year in the last four seasons. Their debt value is at 70%. Its not all hunky dory their. Making the playoffs would be nice for them.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 10:28 PM

They lost eighteen million in operating income last year, they only broke even two times. Their team value went down every year in the last four seasons. Making the playoffs would be nice for them.

Point is everyone benefits from playoffs, their fans deserve it, they look extremely bright but they have one of the better fan bases in the league. and I just saw something saying the team is for sale? Is true?


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 10:34 PM

Point is everyone benefits from playoffs, their fans deserve it, they look extremely bright but they have one of the better fan bases in the league. and I just saw something saying the team is for sale? Is true?

I dont think they are looking to sell the team but they are in a bad spot. The only thing saving them is a long lease with the city of Columbus. But the Jackets are losing over ten million a season from operating income so a push to the playoffs would be good for them.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 10:38 PM

I dont think they are looking to sell the team but they are in a bad spot. The only thing saving them is a long lease with the city of Columbus. But the Jackets are losing over ten million a season from operating income so a push to the playoffs would be good for them.

Yeah I saw that, the team said theirs 0 merit to that claim. I know their losing money but my point is they have a pretty big fan base as it stands now. They don't really even own their stadium and that hurts them in money, they don't make anything in parking or naming rights, Nationwide owns 90% that building.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 10:40 PM

Yeah I saw that, the team said theirs 0 merit to that claim. I know their losing money but my point is they have a pretty big fan base as it stands now. They don't really even own their stadium and that hurts them in money, they don't make anything in parking or naming rights, Nationwide owns 90% that building.

They only average 75-80% in attendance for the past 3 seasons :noclue:  add that to cheap tickets. Its not a good situation.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 10:43 PM

They only average 75-80% in attendance for the past 3 seasons :noclue:  add that to cheap tickets. Its not a good situation.

Take that over Dallas or Florida, I believe you and understand you. Im just saying I believe the fact they actually have a pretty good fan base is why they are still their instead of being "relocated" like Atlanta. Their able to stand on their own. And right now Columbus has a pretty great team I hope every thing great for them.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 10:53 PM

Columbus has something like 8 of 11 on the road to end the season, and they haven't been a good road team all year.  They needed a deadline addition.  


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:11 PM

Just think its risky on their part... The players they gave were all underachieving but they were all fairly young and could have turned the corner eventually... If gaborik goes down they have lots a lot...

But gaborik is a star player and the organization needed that too since nash is gone, they needed that to sell the game.

 

This trade, like most trades, is all about salary.  Brassard makes way too much money for what he provides, Dorsett probably too.  They weren't in Columbus's plans - getting rid of a bad salary like Brassard in a deal like this is big.  Moore is a good prospect, but Columbus has a few D prospects and can afford to let one of them go.

 

The Rangers avoid the possibility of having to amnesty Gaborik, which would've been a disaster.  Still, they only have one amnesty left, it will be tough to know whether to use it on Brassard or Brad Richards.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:12 PM

From all these trades, Columbus and Calgary have a slew of 2013 draft picks, 3 each just in the first round.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:33 PM

Columbus is going to look good in a few years..and good for them. 


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:38 PM

From all these trades, Columbus and Calgary have a slew of 2013 draft picks, 3 each just in the first round.


For colombus it wouldnt be too dumb to trade one of those first round pick to try to get a good established nhl player to solidify the team immediatly. Kinda like they did with philly, they can certainly afford it. 3 first round pick is good but theyll likely only play in a few years.

Columbus is going to look good in a few years..and good for them. 


Obviously they sucked all the way just until they join our division... Of course
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