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#161 Daniel

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 12:10 PM

The NHL is not a special teams league.  It is a 5 on 5 league.  And Jagr is not good at the shootout and there was a big controversy with him refusing to take shootouts when he was a Ranger.

 

I'd rather have better special teams than worse special teams. 


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 12:12 PM

I'd rather have better special teams than worse special teams. 

 

At what cost though?  Obviously purely hypothetical, but what would you be willing to give up for a few months of Jagr on the PP?

(This may come across as a bias question...because it kinda is, in all honesty :lol:)


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 12:14 PM

Well apparently my question to you is moot, because Jagr to Boston is all but official. 


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 12:18 PM

Transaction: #NJDevils have reassigned G-Scott Wedgewood to #ADevils from Trenton (ECHL)

BOOM!
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 12:20 PM

a guy i'd like Lou to go after this summer is Mason Raymond


Was thinking exactly the same thing when i was looking through TSN's trade bait section earlier.
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 12:20 PM

Transaction: #NJDevils have reassigned G-Scott Wedgewood to #ADevils from Trenton (ECHL)

BOOM!

 

Big news here, Folks!

 

This will be the peak of Devils moves.


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 12:21 PM

Big news here, Folks!

 

This will be the peak of Devils moves.

Who are the people in your avatar?


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 12:21 PM

Quick who is the next big name we can fantasize about for 26 hours!


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 12:23 PM

I'd rather have better special teams than worse special teams. 

 

Cool.  It's really hard to upgrade them, though.  You don't just stick in a player and get better unless there's someone who's really awful (like, say, Adam Larsson).


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 12:30 PM

Still think Lou should try for Ben Bishop.
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 12:31 PM

Cool.  It's really hard to upgrade them, though.  You don't just stick in a player and get better unless there's someone who's really awful (like, say, Adam Larsson).

 

Say what?  That's true if we're talking about someone like Ponikarovsky.  But, what do you know, talented offensive players are not guys that you're just "sticking in there". 

 

It's off topic, but the biggest problem with stat geeks is this urge to try an isolate a few factors and conclude that's what makes a team good. 


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 12:32 PM

damn id love to have j-bouw. I see a lot of hate for him on hockey sites and whatnot. ive always liked his skill set and I don't think hes ever really been in a system to where he can flourish. his cap hit is high but the guy can play. the blues are gonna love him I think.


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 12:41 PM

It seems defensemen are bringing back good assets so far...I think we could trade a defenseman for at least picks (we need to collect some) instead of just having the logjam we got on defense


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 12:42 PM

Cool.  It's really hard to upgrade them, though.  You don't just stick in a player and get better unless there's someone who's really awful (like, say, Adam Larsson).

 

PP is mostly not about the players as much as the system, look at chicago last year they were last or near the bottom on the league on PP... with kane, hossa, seabrook, toews, sharp etc etc etc... 

 

obviously you need guys who can do their role well... and we could have that i think but we could be better, i'd put Kovy down low just like where Neal is always standing and scoring on the PP near the faceoffs circles and have 2 real puck mover on the blue line.


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 12:44 PM

Say what?  That's true if we're talking about someone like Ponikarovsky.  But, what do you know, talented offensive players are not guys that you're just "sticking in there". 

 

It's off topic, but the biggest problem with stat geeks is this urge to try an isolate a few factors and conclude that's what makes a team good. 

 

Did the Devils get way better with Kovalchuk on the PP in 2009-10?  I know everyone thought they would.  I don't think they did.  Nor do I think they've really gotten better in general because of him.

 

How much do you really think you can improve a power play by adding Jagr and replacing someone else on the top unit?  How many more goals would you score?


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 12:44 PM

Ryan clowe for Tallinder would you do it?


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 12:45 PM

Transaction: #NJDevils have reassigned G-Scott Wedgewood to #ADevils from Trenton (ECHL)

BOOM!

moustic scoops everyone!


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 12:47 PM

It seems defensemen are bringing back good assets so far...I think we could trade a defenseman for at least picks (we need to collect some) instead of just having the logjam we got on defense

 

We have too many dman who are playing not so great defensively and who are not creating offence at all, other than a few passes or shots that happen to hit the net once in awhile.

 

to me A-Train is the odd man out. Salv is captain and Fayne is too young and will help in the future. We can't get rid of Zidlicky he has no value and i could see them holding on to Tallinder.

 

So if Lou can get AT THE VERY LEAST a 2nd, get it done, id like to get a few 2nd round picks this year.

 

edit: i know Volchenkov has a NTC but if he's approach to waive it to go to a better team he may waive it


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 12:48 PM

Did the Devils get way better with Kovalchuk on the PP in 2009-10?  I know everyone thought they would.  I don't think they did.  Nor do I think they've really gotten better in general because of him.

 

How much do you really think you can improve a power play by adding Jagr and replacing someone else on the top unit?  How many more goals would you score?

That's what's so annoying.  Adding a player just isn't any kind of reliable solution.

 

**sob sob**  just play better guys.  It's that simple.  :evilcry:


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 01:04 PM

We have too many dman who are playing not so great defensively and who are not creating offence at all, other than a few passes or shots that happen to hit the net once in awhile.

 

to me A-Train is the odd man out. Salv is captain and Fayne is too young and will help in the future. We can't get rid of Zidlicky he has no value and i could see them holding on to Tallinder.

 

So if Lou can get AT THE VERY LEAST a 2nd, get it done, id like to get a few 2nd round picks this year.

 

edit: i know Volchenkov has a NTC but if he's approach to waive it to go to a better team he may waive it

 

2nd round picks aren't very helpful.  They're something that might turn into a player 4-5 years down the road.  But if the Devils wanted to get rid of Zidlicky, they would get at least a 2nd round pick, and probably another pick or prospect with him.  Have you seen what garbage like Regehr and Murray is going for?


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