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#181 Zubie#8

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 09:44 PM

And I am sorry but I see no difference at even strength without Kovy. I love the guy but he has been a black hole at even strength this year. Of course the special teams miss him but the offense looks the same and players are taking his minutes and are doing just fine. Hopefully when he returns everyone will be healthy and we can roll 4 very good lines. A team with a fully rested Zubrus and Kovalchuk will be really good. I am also done with Gionta, I love his work ethic but I hope Josefson can come back after his injury. If Josefson doesnt impress on that line then put Gionta back. Clarkson is also not doing good lately, ideally we want him on the third line when we have more depth, I would love to see what Dags can do with Elias and Zajac.

 

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Elias Zajac D'agostini

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Carter Josefson Bernier

 

EDIT: I like what I saw from D'agostini tonight, he is a good player when he has the puck with speed.

 

 

It is not the end of the world. Lets all just calm down.


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 09:45 PM

We basically have to go .500 from here on out if we want to scratch our way into the playoffs.


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#183 NJDevs4978

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 09:45 PM

They do beat teams they are better than. Teams lose to worse teams all the time. It's a crappy and disappointing loss, but it's so incredibly negative every game these days.

 

Just off the top of my head...Winnipeg twice, Buffalo, Tampa twice, hell even the Ottawa game on President's Day when they were still reeling from the injuries and their win against us got them going.  That's a LOT of games they haven't won against teams they're better than.  I'm not even counting the darn Islander games cause that's a quasi-rivalry.


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 09:48 PM

So Kostopolous converts on a penalty shot but Elias and Zajac completely screwed the pooch. Good going.

Once again Loktionov comes through and we get goals from guys who don't normally score yet nothing from the guys we expect to score. That's a big big problem.


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 09:48 PM

Once Poni gets fully acclimated again and Zubrus comes back, we dont have to see Gionta out in the final minute protecting a one goal lead. I know everyone hates Josefson but he is 30x better than him

 

Edit- Yes, I am aware he is concussed

 

We have Travis Zajac and Adam Henrique on the team, with responsible defensive forwards up the wazoo and we're still seeing Gionta as the 'shutdown' line, having him sprawl all over the place trying to make a diving pokecheck deep in the opposition zone getting himself way out of position to start that last rush.


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-NHL record for most road wins in the playoffs - 10-1 in '95 and 10-2 in '00
-NHL record for most home wins in the playoffs - 12-1 in '03

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 09:51 PM

I just don't see what Gio brings. He's a small man with a small reach, he's got some hustle I guess but...come on. Throw one of Zajac and Henrique out there in that final minute, I just..what on earth was going through PDB's head?
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 09:51 PM

Lou likes Gionta. He stays.


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 09:52 PM

We have Travis Zajac and Adam Henrique on the team, with responsible defensive forwards up the wazoo and we're still seeing Gionta as the 'shutdown' line, having him sprawl all over the place trying to make a diving pokecheck deep in the opposition zone getting himself way out of position to start that last rush.

That was almost as facepalm worthy as him letting the cross ice pass go through. I know we have Zajac and Henrique but Deboer seems to have a hard on for Gionta. Hopefully he'll pass him over when we have more options


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 09:52 PM

This is what I talk about when I talk about when players play over their heads coaches and GMs make mistakes in evaluating them.  Salvador also had a horrendous game.  Zidlicky wasn't much better but the Devils coaches seem to have him playing rover now that Kovalchuk's gone.

 

I can't kill DeBoer for having Gionta on the ice for the last shift - he didn't have much choice.  My problem is keeping together that line - Ponikarovsky should go in Henrique's spot, and Henrique should move down and play with Carter and Bernier.


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 09:55 PM

This is what I talk about when I talk about when players play over their heads coaches and GMs make mistakes in evaluating them.  Salvador also had a horrendous game.  Zidlicky wasn't much better but the Devils coaches seem to have him playing rover now that Kovalchuk's gone.

 

I can't kill DeBoer for having Gionta on the ice for the last shift - he didn't have much choice.  My problem is keeping together that line - Ponikarovsky should go in Henrique's spot, and Henrique should move down and play with Carter and Bernier.

 

 

Yeah, I was at a point in the game where I didn't want Harold and Volch to play another shift for the rest of the game, and then I realized that meant Sal would play more and Zids would get huge 5 on 5 minutes.   That was pretty much a "fvck this" moment.


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 10:01 PM

If Tallinder's healthy he should be in the lineup.  He's our second best left side D behind Greene.


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 10:17 PM

If Tallinder's healthy he should be in the lineup.  He's our second best left side D behind Greene.

 

I guess, he's nothing spectacular either.    Really we need to get one of these guys out of here just so Pete can't play games with the D.   Fayne comes back in after rotting and he's rusty and slow.    That deck just needs to be swept, fortunately we have 900 prospect defensemen.

 

But it's going to cost cash to do it and I'm afraid we won't.


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 10:19 PM

It would be nice if this team went on a season ending winning streak like they did in 05-06, but we had a fully talented team back then.



I guess, he's nothing spectacular either.    Really we need to get one of these guys out of here just so Pete can't play games with the D.   Fayne comes back in after rotting and he's rusty and slow.    That deck just needs to be swept, fortunately we have 900 prospect defensemen.

 

But it's going to cost cash to do it and I'm afraid we won't.

 

Lou has been asked recently about making moves at the deadline. He gave Lou speak about adding talent. Basically he blew smoke up everyone's ass. He's not going to do squat.


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 10:19 PM

Let's forget about the Rags for a second, Lundqvist may be concussed so who knows what's going on there...Pittsburgh is our best friend now. They have to blow away the Isles tomorrow in regulation, we need to beat Florida...that way the April Fools day game against NYI gives us a chance to go 7 up on the eight seed.


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 10:20 PM

It would be nice if this team went on a season ending winning streak like they did in 05-06, but we had a fully talented team back then.

 

Funny thing about that comparison is they looked ****ing hopeless before that streak too.  They were barely in a playoff spot after 65 or so games and were losing games to bad teams again after their hot January.


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 10:20 PM

It would be nice if this team went on a season ending winning streak like they did in 05-06, but we had a fully talented team back then.



 

Lou has been asked recently about making moves at the deadline. He gave Lou speak about adding talent. Basically he blew smoke up everyone's ass. He's not going to do squat.

Devils will acquire a top line winger and another top 9 forward soon


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 10:20 PM

This is the kind of loss that gets people fired... If Volch, Harry, and sal could crawl into a hole and never play hockey again, that'd be great
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 10:22 PM

It would be nice if this team went on a season ending winning streak like they did in 05-06, but we had a fully talented team back then.



 

Lou has been asked recently about making moves at the deadline. He gave Lou speak about adding talent. Basically he blew smoke up everyone's ass. He's not going to do squat.

 

I'm guessing one of them will be traded for a bag of pucks.   Unless they're scared of a plague of injuries and Urbom or Gelinas having to play up here.



Let's forget about the Rags for a second, Lundqvist may be concussed so who knows what's going on there...Pittsburgh is our best friend now. They have to blow away the Isles tomorrow in regulation, we need to beat Florida...that way the April Fools day game against NYI gives us a chance to go 7 up on the eight seed.

 

If Lundqvist is concussed, he's playing through it.   Which is entirely possible because no one is running the team other than Captain Nutjob


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 10:22 PM

Devils will acquire a top line winger and another top 9 forward soon

I hope GMs take IOUs because we have nothing to offer to bring top line or top 9 anything back.


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 10:23 PM

I hope GMs take IOUs because we have nothing to offer to bring top line or top 9 anything back.

Kovalchuk and Zubrus. If we can stay afloat without Kovalchuk and Zubrus, we actually have a nice deep forward group

 

Poni-Loktionov-Kovalchuk

Elias-Zajac-Clarkson

Zubrus-Henrique-D'Ago

Carter-JJ-Bernier


Edited by SMantzas, 29 March 2013 - 10:24 PM.

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