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#1 DEV1LDR1VER

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 09:23 PM

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 09:40 PM

Zajac over Gio at key times does make you wonder.

I like PDB though, I like his system. Can't help it if his defensemen are incompetent.
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 10:25 AM

we are awful in shootouts


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Posted 30 March 2013 - 10:26 AM

That's being nice about it.
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 12:08 PM

Shootout should have been Elias, Lokti, and Henrique IMO.
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 12:41 PM

Really on Deboer... No reason to have Gionta out there with 15 seconds left.


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Posted 30 March 2013 - 03:18 PM

i'm amazed that they don't practice shootouts all season. in a short season every point counts and shootouts and 4 on 4s should have been practiced every day for grabbing the extra point. we are losing too many points on this stuff.


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Posted 30 March 2013 - 03:28 PM

i'm amazed that they don't practice shootouts all season. in a short season every point counts and shootouts and 4 on 4s should have been practiced every day for grabbing the extra point. we are losing too many points on this stuff.

Yeah well barely anyone showed up for the optional skate today, so, you know.


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Posted 30 March 2013 - 04:09 PM

It's also the 2nd game in 2 days, so ya know. 


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Posted 30 March 2013 - 04:11 PM

It's also the 2nd game in 2 days, so ya know. 

No you're right. They did spend their days before the Tampa game in FLA practicing. Oh, right! They got sunburnt and went golfing.


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Posted 30 March 2013 - 04:45 PM

Only eight Devils players skated this morning.



Forwards: Krys Barch, David Clarkson, Tim Sestito and Harri Pesonen.



Defensemen: Peter Harrold, Anton Volchenkov, Adam Larrson and Henrik Tallinder.


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Posted 30 March 2013 - 04:49 PM

i have no problem with them not practicing everyday since the season is densely packed and they need the rest but when they do practice, they should have practiced shootouts and 4on4 overtimes. it's too late now but i guess some practice is better than none to make sure we get any close ones.


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Posted 30 March 2013 - 05:05 PM

i have no problem with them not practicing everyday since the season is densely packed and they need the rest but when they do practice, they should have practiced shootouts and 4on4 overtimes. it's too late now but i guess some practice is better than none to make sure we get any close ones.

The optional skates aren't like balls to the wall. Plus it's a little disconcerting hearing Marty say last night they need to practice the shootout more. In addition Patty and Zajac's shootout attempts were god-awful.


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Posted 30 March 2013 - 05:35 PM

The optional skates aren't like balls to the wall. Plus it's a little disconcerting hearing Marty say last night they need to practice the shootout more. In addition Patty and Zajac's shootout attempts were god-awful.

pattys shoot out attempt really infuriated me, it was totally pathetic it looked like he didnt know what to do and confused himself so he just drove it right up nice and slow and allowed the poke check... total crap.
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 08:19 AM

They were obscenely GOOD in shoot outs last year. Losing Parise hurts, but imho shoot outs are all about luck. I'd rather not waste too much time practicing them. 4 on 4 is a different story. We take too many penalties, and never seem to control the 4 on 4 well. Even when we're generating chances and the attack is buzzing, we always seem to yield a good counter.


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Posted 31 March 2013 - 09:02 AM

These guys have done breakaway drills their whole life. It's deeper than running a couple of breakaways at the end of practice. They have very little confidence right now. 


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 08:28 AM

the last 5 minutes of the last 2 games have been nightmares, no possesion, dump and change and sit back and defend, prevent defense NHL style...

 

how about holding the puck and actually playing offense a bit??


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 10:16 AM

I'm starting to think that PDB is a great X & O coach. He knows his systems, can match up etc etc but in terms of managing personnel, who to put on the ice and what said player is best fitted to...not so sure. Some of his recent lineups just make me wonder what the hell he is thinking/seeing.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 11:30 AM

They were obscenely GOOD in shoot outs last year. Losing Parise hurts, but imho shoot outs are all about luck. I'd rather not waste too much time practicing them. 4 on 4 is a different story. We take too many penalties, and never seem to control the 4 on 4 well. Even when we're generating chances and the attack is buzzing, we always seem to yield a good counter.

 

Anybody who bitches about the Devils' shootout issues needs to realize how incredibly good the Devils been at them since shootouts were implemented.  56-35 all-time, and that INCLUDES this year's 2-6 record.  They've also been blessed with terrific shooting (40.7% lifetime...no other team is above 38.1%).  Going into this season, not one other NHL team was in the Devils' league, as far as shootout prowess goes, save for Pittsburgh (winning% in shootouts is now better than the Devils, but no team has won more shootouts than the Devils).

 

Much as it sucks, the bounces were going to start to go the other way eventually...having two aging goalies can't help much either. 

 

But last year, the Devils went 12-4 with a ridiculous 57.1% shooting% in shootouts, and there was still bitching on these boards when the Devils dared to lose a shootout here and there.  Apparently they should've gone 16-0. 

 

Easy to take the shootout proficiency for granted, but unfortunately, since no one is going to sign good shootout guys for the sake of winning shootouts, you hope that your top players happen to be good at it.  The Devils had some luck in that regard, especially since Kovy improved exponentially at it since coming here.  Looks like the luck is finally changing.   


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:00 PM

What 76 said.  Hearing fans complain about shootout choices, both the coaches' decision on who to send out, and the players' decision to shoot, deke, etc. - the worst.  


NJ has also been one of the best 4 on 4 overtime teams.  Basically the reason NJ won divisions and wasn't fighting for playoff spots between 2005-06 and 2011-12 was their prowess at both of these things, and it's hard to attribute that to mere skill.


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