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#21 SterioDesign

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:11 PM

Anybody who bitches about the Devils' shootout issues needs to realize how incredibly good the Devils been at them since shootouts were implemented.  56-35 all-time, and that INCLUDES this year's 2-6 record.  They've also been blessed with terrific shooting (40.7% lifetime...no other team is above 38.1%).  Going into this season, not one other NHL team was in the Devils' league, as far as shootout prowess goes, save for Pittsburgh (winning% in shootouts is now better than the Devils, but no team has won more shootouts than the Devils).

 

Much as it sucks, the bounces were going to start to go the other way eventually...having two aging goalies can't help much either. 

 

But last year, the Devils went 12-4 with a ridiculous 57.1% shooting% in shootouts, and there was still bitching on these boards when the Devils dared to lose a shootout here and there.  Apparently they should've gone 16-0. 

 

Easy to take the shootout proficiency for granted, but unfortunately, since no one is going to sign good shootout guys for the sake of winning shootouts, you hope that your top players happen to be good at it.  The Devils had some luck in that regard, especially since Kovy improved exponentially at it since coming here.  Looks like the luck is finally changing.   

 

even though thats kinda true, i wouldnt blame luck. Our guys are not getting it done. Shooting wide and trying to deke and ending up on the side of the net by the time they try a shot... some SO attempts this year were pathetic.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 01:32 PM

SD:  you're misinterpreting my use of the word "luck" here.  I'm not referring to Devils' shooters being unlucky in shootouts...you are right, in that some of the moves they are trying to make have been pretty bad.  It's like I said in my post...to be good at the shootout, you need your top players to be good at it, and then hopefully a random body or two that you might not expect to be (like Viktor Kozlov was).  Last year, it was great for the Devils that Kovalchuk and Parise were so damned good (they combined for 19 goals on 30 shots...that's outrageous), but it's not like either player would've been in danger of losing his job on the ice if he WASN'T so good in shootouts.  That's where the luck factors in...no GM is going to build a team to be good at the shootout.  In Kovy's case, the Devils were doubly lucky, in that he hadn't been nearly as good at it previously as he was last season. 

 

Elias went 6 for 12 last season...so on 42 attempts, the top three Devils combined for 25 goals. That's 59.5%, and insanely proficient. 

 

To put it very simply:  the Devils up until this season were awesome in the shootout...but not by any particular design on Lou's part.  Everything just lined up right for them to be. 


Edited by Colorado Rockies 1976, 01 April 2013 - 01:42 PM.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 01:37 PM

who cares about the shoot outs we are winning games and then blow leads in the last 30 seconds.. unacceptable...  its like the Carolina series all over again...


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 01:38 PM

yeah that make more sense,

 

also after awhile Brodeur has to be one of the more studied goalie in the league since the lockout for shootouts.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 01:46 PM

who cares about the shoot outs we are winning games and then blow leads in the last 30 seconds.. unacceptable...  its like the Carolina series all over again...

 

People care because the Devils used to be better than everyone in getting that extra point come shootout time, which helps to cover up ills.  For the first time, they're not.  Look at it this way:  if the Devils are having their typical shootout success, they're 5-3 or 6-2 in shootouts this season, instead of 2-6.  So instead of 15-11-9, they're 18-11-6 or 19-11-5.  The record suddenly looks a whole lot better, even though it's just a silly skills competition that would make the Devils suddenly appear to be so much better than they've really been. 


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Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
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