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#81 DevsMan84

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:47 PM

I would have liked to see Jagr, Iginla, Pominville, etc added....if we could have done so without dealing a 1st....

 

lol there is no way to get any of those without either dealing a either a blue chip prospect, a top 6 NHL'er or 1st round pick.  Would you be willing to part with any of those for a rental?


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:47 PM

He looked good because he didn't have to be good.  We forechecked the sh!t out of the Flyers and Rangers in those rounds.  Marty was tested in Round 1 and the Finals and didn't look good at all.

 

I want whatever you're taking brother, because you live in a delusional world.  Yes, we dominated the Flyers.  If you think we dominated the Rags, then I think you need to go back and watch some film.  Those games were pretty much all extremely close, and hard fought. He was great for most of that series, did everything that was asked of him against Philly (especially in Game 2 where we were down only 1-0 going into the 3rd which allowed for the comeback that changed the series), and was good in games 1, 2, 4 and 5 in the Finals. 


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:47 PM

Those are the only type of goalie left really.  Why would anyone under 30 want to have learned any other way?

 

Bingo.   The position has changed to the point where all the goalies are going to be blimps who are slightly better or worse than each other.   There will be very few Marty style goalies again, likely no Hasek style goalies, and Moose type goalies, butterfly goalies who play small and have to dive/flail around?  Forget about that.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:49 PM

lol there is no way to get any of those without either dealing a either a blue chip prospect, a top 6 NHL'er or 1st round pick.  Would you be willing to part with any of those for a rental?


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:50 PM

I want whatever you're taking brother, because you live in a delusional world.  Yes, we dominated the Flyers.  If you think we dominated the Rags, then I think you need to go back and watch some film.  Those games were pretty much all extremely close, and hard fought. He was great for most of that series, did everything that was asked of him against Philly (especially in Game 2 where we were down only 1-0 going into the 3rd which allowed for the comeback that changed the series), and was good in games 1, 2, 4 and 5 in the Finals. 

 

The Rangers were actually taking the series away as it went along.   We just kept jumping them early in the games and then we'd get pounded.   He was very good in that series and beat Lundqvist.   Which will amuse me until the end of time.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:50 PM

I would have moved some prospects and later picks for any of those guys....


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:50 PM

I want whatever you're taking brother, because you live in a delusional world.  Yes, we dominated the Flyers.  If you think we dominated the Rags, then I think you need to go back and watch some film.  Those games were pretty much all extremely close, and hard fought. He was great for most of that series, did everything that was asked of him against Philly (especially in Game 2 where we were down only 1-0 going into the 3rd which allowed for the comeback that changed the series), and was good in games 1, 2, 4 and 5 in the Finals. 

 

Sometimes I wonder why you root for this team

 

Marty didn;t have to be spectacular like in 2003 but he was good enough to get a win.  He made some highlight reel saves last year in Rounds 2 and 3 but was not the major reason why we won those.  We man-handled the Flyers and handled the Rangers with our aggressive forecheck that they had no answer for. 

 

Also only game 1 and 2 of the second round was somewhat close while game 5 and 6 of the 3rd round were somewhat close.  None of these were real nail-biters and the rest of the games were not even close.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:51 PM

Marty didn;t have to be spectacular like in 2003 but he was good enough to get a win.  He made some highlight reel saves last year in Rounds 2 and 3 but was not the major reason why we won those.  We man-handled the Flyers and handled the Rangers with our aggressive forecheck that they had no answer for. 

 

Also only game 1 and 2 of the second round was somewhat close while game 5 and 6 of the 3rd round were somewhat close.  None of these were real nail-biters and the rest of the games were not even close.

The Rangers series was a war....


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:51 PM

I would have liked to see Jagr, Iginla, Pominville, etc added....if we could have done so without dealing a 1st....

 

Great.  For who?  And two of players did see a first-rounder go the other way. 

 

I know you're not alone in wishing Lou would've done something with more pizazz, I just don't think the deal was there to be made. 


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:53 PM

I would have moved some prospects and later picks for any of those guys....

 

Yeah because a couple of prospects (any guy drafted by a team is a "prospect") and later picks are what those teams really want for their top-scorers :rolleyes:



The Rangers series was a war....

 

It was a war for the fans, but games 1-4 were not that close.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:54 PM

I would have moved some prospects and later picks for any of those guys....

 

Jagr cost a 2nd and 2 prospects.

 

Iginla cost a 1st and 2 prospects.

 

Pominville cost a 1st, a 2nd, a top goalie prospect, and a forward prospect.

 

 

So, again, how to later picks a prospects get those guys?


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:56 PM

Great.  For who?  And two of players did see a first-rounder go the other way. 

 

I know you're not alone in wishing Lou would've done something with more pizazz, I just don't think the deal was there to be made. 

 

I would have included any combination of Teddy/Josefson/any of our extra d-men/2nd round picks and later



Jagr cost a 2nd and 2 prospects.

 

Iginla cost a 1st and 2 prospects.

 

Pominville cost a 1st, a 2nd, a top goalie prospect, and a forward prospect.

 

 

So, again, how to later picks a prospects get those guys?

 

Would have gladly taken JJ for a 2nd and 2 prospects...

 

Would have tried to substitute something else in place of a 1st in the other deals....if it was not an option, it's understandable.  But I do not think LL even inquired on any of these players.  Even if he did, it is a moot point now.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:57 PM

I would have included any combination of Teddy/Josefson/any of our extra d-men/2nd round picks and later

 

So Teddy, Josefson, Tallinder, a 2nd, and 4th for Jagr?  I'd be pretty upset if the Devils made that move.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:58 PM

I would have included any combination of Teddy/Josefson/any of our extra d-men/2nd round picks and later

 

Teddy and Josefson have little to no trade value at this point and the same with our extra d-men.  Also no way they would want a 2nd or later draft pick.  This is NHL 13 video game trading.



So Teddy, Josefson, Tallinder, a 2nd, and 4th for Jagr?  I'd be pretty upset if the Devils made that move.

 

I wouldn't care for Teddy and Josefson.  I kinda like Tallinder but can part with him.  I would hate to lose a 2nd and 4th for Jagr though and the fact that it would be a rental would make a huge waste.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:59 PM

Teddy and Josefson have little to no trade value at this point and the same with our extra d-men.  Also no way they would want a 2nd or later draft pick.  This is NHL 13 video game trading.

 

Neither did the guys that got moved for Jagr lol

 

But yeah they couldn't afford to give up any more real picks.  Clearly Lou doesn't like odd-round drafting though :P


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 04:00 PM

So Teddy, Josefson, Tallinder, a 2nd, and 4th for Jagr?  I'd be pretty upset if the Devils made that move.

Not all of that, a combination of some of those parts


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 04:01 PM

Neither did the guys that got moved for Jagr lol

 

But yeah they couldn't afford to give up any more real picks.  Clearly Lou doesn't like odd-round drafting though :P

 

Yeah I mean losing those players won't break me up but losing a 2nd or 1st round pick this year for a rental would piss me off.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 04:02 PM

Those are the only type of goalie left really.  Why would anyone under 30 want to have learned any other way?

Really? Take a look at our goalie prospects.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 04:07 PM

I think d'agostini ends up on the 4th line by the end of the season.
Lines end up being something like:
Zubrus-Zajac-Kovalchuk
Elias-Henrique-Clarkson
Sullivan-Loktionov-Poni
D'agostini-Carter-Bernier

That lineup has some players playing on their off-wings but its still a really solid lineup
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 04:11 PM

The Rangers were actually taking the series away as it went along.   We just kept jumping them early in the games and then we'd get pounded.   He was very good in that series and beat Lundqvist.   Which will amuse me until the end of time.

 

Lundqvist was also not very good, specifically in games 4 and 5.  But yeah, this is pretty much what happened in Games 4, 5, and 6.  Dubinsky coming back was real big for them.



Really? Take a look at our goalie prospects.

 

Sure, I'll take a look.  Oh wait, none of them are putting up good save percentages really at any level?  Ah.  Good to know.


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