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#41 Chuck the Duck

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 01:01 PM

Exactly.  The Devils will never play any outdoor game whatsoever unless the roof blows off the arena.

 

Devils fans really need to drop this.

 

What's the difference between Devils-Rags or Rags-Isles at Yankee Stadium and Kings-Ducks at Dodger Stadium?  I personally think the NHL would be stupid to hold anything other than the Winter Classic on 1/1 every year, but they seem hell bent on expanding the outdoor hockey experience through "regional" matchups in order to increase revenue.  I can see the Devils being a part of one of those lesser games down the road. 


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 02:42 PM

What's the difference between Devils-Rags or Rags-Isles at Yankee Stadium and Kings-Ducks at Dodger Stadium?  I personally think the NHL would be stupid to hold anything other than the Winter Classic on 1/1 every year, but they seem hell bent on expanding the outdoor hockey experience through "regional" matchups in order to increase revenue.  I can see the Devils being a part of one of those lesser games down the road. 

 

Neither the Kings or Ducks have been treated like the redheaded stephchild by the NHL at any point.  Both have also won the Stanley Cup since the 2005 lockout and are on everyone's radar.

 

The Devils could win 5 more cups in the next 10 years and have a rivalry with the Rags that would surpass that of the Yankees and Red Sox and they still wouldn't be in the Winter Classic.  That's just how it is and I really do not see why it is such a big deal to be in it anyways.  Its a regular season game played outdoors on terrible ice conditions with a huge media circus/distractions going on around it.  Big friggin deal.


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#43 Chuck the Duck

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:03 PM

I agree with you that it really is overblown and isn't a big deal in my mind.  Quite frankly, I really don't want to sit outside in freezing cold temps. to watch a game from seats with a terrible viewing angle/obstructed view just for the sake of saying I went to a game at Yankee Stadium.

 

IMO, the Ducks aren't on anyone's radar.  At best, they are the Devils of the LA hockey market, which isn't saying much.  Plus, I'm not saying the Devils would be in a WC, but in 1 of the additional proposed "Hockey Day in America" games currently being discussed.  Based upon everything Buttman is about ($$$), as well as the well leaked reports currently circulating, it's just a matter of time before there are 2-3 additional outdoor games played each season involving different teams outside the NBC core.  Devils/Rags would sell out Yankee Stadium, and he knows it.  $$$ talks, and that game (especially the first one in this market) will make a LOT of money for both the teams and the league.  How adding these types of games will diminish the WC is anyone's guess, but like I said before, I believe the WC and the Heritage Classic should be the only outdoor games the NHL holds.


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:41 PM

I agree with you that it really is overblown and isn't a big deal in my mind.  Quite frankly, I really don't want to sit outside in freezing cold temps. to watch a game from seats with a terrible viewing angle/obstructed view just for the sake of saying I went to a game at Yankee Stadium.

 

IMO, the Ducks aren't on anyone's radar.  At best, they are the Devils of the LA hockey market, which isn't saying much.  Plus, I'm not saying the Devils would be in a WC, but in 1 of the additional proposed "Hockey Day in America" games currently being discussed.  Based upon everything Buttman is about ($$$), as well as the well leaked reports currently circulating, it's just a matter of time before there are 2-3 additional outdoor games played each season involving different teams outside the NBC core.  Devils/Rags would sell out Yankee Stadium, and he knows it.  $$$ talks, and that game (especially the first one in this market) will make a LOT of money for both the teams and the league.  How adding these types of games will diminish the WC is anyone's guess, but like I said before, I believe the WC and the Heritage Classic should be the only outdoor games the NHL holds.

 

NHL probably wants multiple outdoor games, but I bet NBC doesn't.  They want a single, nationally-televised game that they can promote the hell out for months beforehand and get as many sponsors as they can.  With mulitple regional games, they will dilute the Winter Classic which is the opposite of what they want.  The NHL and Bettman may want as many outdoor games as they want, but as long as NBC has the television contract I bet they will put a stop to it right away.


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:43 PM

What's the difference between Devils-Rags or Rags-Isles at Yankee Stadium and Kings-Ducks at Dodger Stadium?  I personally think the NHL would be stupid to hold anything other than the Winter Classic on 1/1 every year, but they seem hell bent on expanding the outdoor hockey experience through "regional" matchups in order to increase revenue.  I can see the Devils being a part of one of those lesser games down the road. 

 

There is no difference, which is why you will never see the Devils, Isles or Ducks in Winter Classic match, regardless of where it is played.  They are not TV markets and would kill the ratings and the prestige the league has built with the WC game.


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:53 PM

The last game of that contract is either this season or next, but I believe it is this season.  Although, it is really a nothing-bowl.  Could easily be moved (and it probably would be smart to move it) to mid-december on a thursday night where it can actually get some attention.

 

As for a game itself in NY, I would MUCH rather have it at Giants Stadium instead of either of the baseball stadiums.  Much better sight-lines and bigger.  If not there, my second choice would be Miche Stadium at West Point.  Holds about 45,000, overlooks the Hudson river.  Great old-school venue.  Aside from an alumni game, could also have an Army-Navy outdoor game.  As for Giants Stadium, if that means moving it to February, that is fine by me.  President's Day weekend would be a great time to have it.

 

As for teams, I would love to have Rangers-Isles or Rangers-Devils, and I think Bettman would love that, as well.  Problem is NBC allegedly has said they want two different tv markets involved.  I think that is a crock, as I do not know any hockey fan that hasn't watched each WC even though their favorite team was not participating.

 

 

Michie stadium holds under 40k with the new press box they put in a few years back. They took out the last of the remaining chairbacks last year so the venue is completely benches despite a few rows in the Hoffman club.

 

The last time I checked Giants stadium was torn down a few years back.


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:58 PM

There is no difference, which is why you will never see the Devils, Isles or Ducks in Winter Classic match, regardless of where it is played.  They are not TV markets and would kill the ratings and the prestige the league has built with the WC game.

 

The WC will forever be a rotation involving the NBC core teams.  I'm not arguing that the Devils will ever be in a WC game.  We all know that won't happen.  All I'm saying is, if the NHL holds additional outdoor games each season, they will likely be involved in one of those games against a team like the Rangers in Yankee Stadium.

 

The Kings-Ducks game being talked about at Dodger's Stadium is not going to be a WC.  It is rumored as being a 2nd US outdoor game held next season on "Hockey Day in America."  No way NBC would ever go for Kings-Ducks on New Year's Day, regardless of the venue.


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 04:21 PM

Neither the Kings or Ducks have been treated like the redheaded stephchild by the NHL at any point.  Both have also won the Stanley Cup since the 2005 lockout and are on everyone's radar.

 

The Devils could win 5 more cups in the next 10 years and have a rivalry with the Rags that would surpass that of the Yankees and Red Sox and they still wouldn't be in the Winter Classic.  That's just how it is and I really do not see why it is such a big deal to be in it anyways.  Its a regular season game played outdoors on terrible ice conditions with a huge media circus/distractions going on around it.  Big friggin deal.

Yeah, I'd prefer not to be in it for these reasons:

 

1. I won't be able to afford a ticket

 

2. It's a distraction involving bad ice, unfamiliar boards, stupid sweaters and sunlight.

 

3. Having to have HBO follow the team around for a month.


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 08:45 PM

Yeah, I'd prefer not to be in it for these reasons:

1. I won't be able to afford a ticket

2. It's a distraction involving bad ice, unfamiliar boards, stupid sweaters and sunlight.

3. Having to have HBO follow the team around for a month.


The only thing I like about the WC are those new sweaters as I am a little bit of a jersey freak.

I could live without the rest.
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Posted 10 April 2013 - 08:38 AM

The only thing I like about the WC are those new sweaters as I am a little bit of a jersey freak.

I could live without the rest.

Who are we kidding, we know the Devils are gonna pull out the Christmas jerseys if we ever get one. I could also see Lou pulling out the pre-Reebok black and red ones  :giggle:


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 09:21 AM

Who are we kidding, we know the Devils are gonna pull out the Christmas jerseys if we ever get one. I could also see Lou pulling out the pre-Reebok black and red ones  :giggle:

 

Knowing Lou, if Hell freezes over and we are in the WC he will put out a press release saying they are going to wear their normal jerseys and there is nothing new to see.


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 09:25 AM

Knowing Lou, if Hell freezes over and we are in the WC he will put out a press release saying they are going to wear their normal jerseys and there is nothing new to see.

 

Everything leading up to the game will be "status quo."  Do you guys think that will be etched into his tombstone?  "Here lies Louis Lamoriello.  Everything is status quo.  But if you are in the maaaket for a new or pre-owned Mercedes Benz, visit Globe Mercedes in Fairfield, New Jersey."


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 09:26 AM

Everything leading up to the game will be "status quo."  Do you guys think that will be etched into his tombstone?  "Here lies Louis Lamoriello.  Everything is status quo.  But if you are in the maaaket for a new or pre-owned Mercedes Benz, visit Globe Mercedes in Fairfield, New Jersey."

 

 

hahaha that part just made my day


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:57 PM

Everything leading up to the game will be "status quo."  Do you guys think that will be etched into his tombstone?  "Here lies Louis Lamoriello.  Everything is status quo.  But if you are in the maaaket for a new or pre-owned Mercedes Benz, visit Globe Mercedes in Fairfield, New Jersey."

Lmfao! Does anyone have a recording of this?


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 04:00 PM

Everything leading up to the game will be "status quo."  Do you guys think that will be etched into his tombstone?  "Here lies Louis Lamoriello.  Everything is status quo.  But if you are in the maaaket for a new or pre-owned Mercedes Benz, visit Globe Mercedes in Fairfield, New Jersey."

 

 

hahaha Amazing


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