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#321 Devil Dan 56

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 11:24 PM

The only thing close to Parise was Semin, and even he was no guarantee, especially at $7 million.

 

But yeah, let's keep beating the hell out of the dead horse, the meat is not quite ready for the dog food plant yet.

 

This. 

 

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 11:24 PM

well it could be worse. We could be Calgary 


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 11:27 PM

This. 

 

"You don't just replace a Zach Parise." - Lou. Assuming all he had to do is sign Semin and it would go seamlessly is ridiculous. 

 

Seriously, I'm depressed as anyone that we're on the verge of not making it, but enough of the Parise BS. Holy god.

 

Are the Sabres sh!tting bricks over Pominville? Nope, and their best scorer is now Vanek.


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 11:56 PM

Devils are 1-9-2 against Boston in their last 12 games with that one win coming in the last game of the season where Boston rested all of their stars...good lord. :ph34r:


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 12:33 AM

What a terrible way to start the day. Just...sad.


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 07:09 AM

Meh, it's just a bad season. It happens. Nothing's going right, and changes will have to be made. People throwing fits about it are being ridiculous. Have some perspective. All teams have bad years. Up until now, ours didn't do it often.

 

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 07:10 AM

this team is simply finding ways to lose, there's no way around.

 

If the team scores 4... the goalies will let in 5+. If the goalie manage to let it only one goal the team won't score at all. It's been like that all season.


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 07:36 AM

the sad thing about last night is.. they had such a bad first period there was no coming back from it, it was close i thought they were going to come back a few times the ship was just sunk too deep... if they didnt look like such crap in that 1st then theres no doubt we should have won that one.
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Posted 11 April 2013 - 07:39 AM

luckily boston has trouble playing with a lead, that first 10 mins of the first was ug-ly.

 

the PP is beyond horrible and the bruins are a very good PK team (not a good combo). they were super agressive and smelled blood on the kill

 

cant kill petey the effort is still there, although having clarkson on the ice 4 v 4 is ridiculous. that = 4 v 3

 

really want a butterfly goalie who covers the ice with a pad, not a skate blade


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 07:45 AM

Meh, it's just a bad season. It happens. Nothing's going right, and changes will have to be made. People throwing fits about it are being ridiculous. Have some perspective. All teams have bad years. Up until now, ours didn't do it often.

 

Yep...nothing lasts forever, and as we saw with 2010-11 and 2011-12, one bad season doesn't necessarily mean an extended bad run.  But clearly the Devils are heading into a period of uncertainty...the end of the road is coming for the old guard.  To think that we had a goalie who held down the number #1 spot from 1994 to 2013...and stayed healthy for most of that time...incredible.  But all one has to do is look in the teams in the Devils' division in that '94-'13 time frame...almost all of them had extended downturns.  The Flyers, like the Devils, made the playoffs in almost every season from '94-'13, but never won the Cup. 

 

Some fans simply can't grasp that prosperity for their hockey team isn't a bottomless well.  Eventually we'll have to deal with irrelevance as well...such is the cycle.  But at least it's been decades since we had to deal with season after season of that, and most of the fans doing most of the bitching aren't even old enough to remember the '82-'87 Devils, so it's not like they even know what that's like. 


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 07:56 AM

Yep...nothing lasts forever, and as we saw with 2010-11 and 2011-12, one bad season doesn't necessarily mean an extended bad run.  But clearly the Devils are heading into a period of uncertainty...the end of the road is coming for the old guard.  To think that we had a goalie who held down the number #1 spot from 1994 to 2013...and stayed healthy for most of that time...incredible.  But all one has to do is look in the teams in the Devils' division in that '94-'13 time frame...almost all of them had extended downturns.  The Flyers, like the Devils, made the playoffs in almost every season from '94-'13, but never won the Cup. 

 

Some fans simply can't grasp that prosperity for their hockey team isn't a bottomless well.  Eventually we'll have to deal with irrelevance as well...such is the cycle.  But at least it's been decades since we had to deal with season after season of that, and most of the fans doing most of the bitching aren't even old enough to remember the '82-'87 Devils, so it's not like they even know what that's like. 

 

Two things:

 

1) case and point for the bold faced selection are the Detroit Red Wings. Yes, they currently occupy the 8th and final spot out West, but there are a handful of teams in striking distance, including Dallas who cannot figure out if their season is over yet or not even after trading Jagr and Roy.

 

2) I agree we're in for some troubling times and also agree it wont be as bad as when the franchise first arrived in NJ. It'll be a season or two of scraping for the 8th spot until we can find our identity beyond the old guard.


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 08:07 AM

I'm more bummed with the prospect that there may be only 8 more Devils games on TV. I guess I'll have to go outside.
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Posted 11 April 2013 - 08:09 AM

Agree with DR33 and CR1976

 

Devils have been so good during my time as a fan that it almost doesn't matter to me if they have a couple of bad years.  That's why I've been more positive than 95% of the board.  They give you an honest effort pretty much every night, seem to be well prepared and never give up.  Look at the second half of 10-11 and even during this losing streak.  They could easily have folded in the tent but they scrap their asses off.  Would you like to score more goals? No kidding. But what do you think happens when you lose Parise and Kovalchuk, Zubrus, Henrique and Poni all miss significant time? Anyway, I truly believe in this team, the coaching staff and the management and you should too. Yeah, things aren't looking good this year and maybe the future does seem kind of hazy but there is a culture of excellence that cannot be lost easily. I'd rather lose with the Devils than win with anyone else


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 08:16 AM

Two things:

 

1) case and point for the bold faced selection are the Detroit Red Wings. Yes, they currently occupy the 8th and final spot out West, but there are a handful of teams in striking distance, including Dallas who cannot figure out if their season is over yet or not even after trading Jagr and Roy.

 

2) I agree we're in for some troubling times and also agree it wont be as bad as when the franchise first arrived in NJ. It'll be a season or two of scraping for the 8th spot until we can find our identity beyond the old guard.

 

I honestly don't know what the future brings, good or bad.  There's just so many questions, starting with how much longer does Lou want to be the GM?  I don't think the Devils will miss the playoffs for five straight seasons either, but it's not like anyone ever sees these things coming, especially when the team has been competitive for so long.  Obviously a lot of it will come down to drafting and the moves that have yet to be made...clearly, there were many times in the last 20 or so years we knew that, at the very least, for the next three or four years, the Devils were going to be an upper-echelon team that would make the playoffs, and possibly contend for a Cup.  Now I have no idea what this team will be in the next three or four years.  I'm not saying the future is bleak...more just cloudy.   


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 08:34 AM

I honestly don't know what the future brings, good or bad.  There's just so many questions, starting with how much longer does Lou want to be the GM?  I don't think the Devils will miss the playoffs for five straight seasons either, but it's not like anyone ever sees these things coming, especially when the team has been competitive for so long.  Obviously a lot of it will come down to drafting and the moves that have yet to be made...clearly, there were many times in the last 20 or so years we knew that, at the very least, for the next three or four years, the Devils were going to be an upper-echelon team that would make the playoffs, and possibly contend for a Cup.  Now I have no idea what this team will be in the next three or four years.  I'm not saying the future is bleak...more just cloudy.   

 

Again, agreed. I still do not believe we'll ever fall back to the, for lack of a better word, "expansion" years when we first arrived in Jersey.

 

I'm extremely curious to see what moves we will make this summer, and I have to imagine us using one if not both of our buyouts. That'd be an insane amount of cap space we'll have when the good majority of the league will not.

 

The problem then becomes who will hit the market.

 

That being said, if somehow a bona fide  #1 winger his the market along with a notable center, and we do not make any attempt to sign them, then I'll start to fear the worst, because this piecemealing from other teams bottom 6 castoffs crap needs to end.


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 08:34 AM

I'd rather lose with the Devils than win with anyone else

That's a great way to look at it. Bravo.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 08:37 AM

The worst part is the team outside the net is fine - not great, but certainly good enough to make the playoffs.  Lou made a bunch of mistakes because the team won last year, but none of them catastrophic.  It's a shortened season, the Devils haven't gotten any bounces, and they're going to miss the playoffs as a result.  Maybe it's hockey karma for all the luck they got in the 95 playoffs.


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 08:37 AM

Again, agreed. I still do not believe we'll ever fall back to the, for lack of a better word, "expansion" years when we first arrived in Jersey.

 

I'm extremely curious to see what moves we will make this summer, and I have to imagine us using one if not both of our buyouts. That'd be an insane amount of cap space we'll have when the good majority of the league will not.

 

The problem then becomes who will hit the market.

 

That being said, if somehow a bona fide  #1 winger his the market along with a notable center, and we do not make any attempt to sign them, then I'll start to fear the worst, because this piecemealing from other teams bottom 6 castoffs crap needs to end.

There are some pretty decent plays on the market, considering they don't resign. Raymond I hope we take a look at. Karlsson obviously won't be let on the market, he'll be resigned long term I'd think

 

 

http://m.nbcsports.c...t-tomorrow’

 

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Sports Club Stats’ numbers indicate that the Devils would have to put the following type of run together to have better than a coin flip’s chance of making the 2013 playoffs:*


 

6-2-0 finish: 56.5 percent chance.
5-0-3 finish: 75.1 percent chance
6-1-1 finish: 80.3 percent chance


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 10:40 AM

There are some pretty decent plays on the market, considering they don't resign. Raymond I hope we take a look at. Karlsson obviously won't be let on the market, he'll be resigned long term I'd think

 

The only thing about Raymond that would concern me is his spinal compression from the Finals 2 years ago.


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 11:01 AM

Antropov and Horton are up if their not resigned either they would be great additions
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