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#21 elias2600

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 09:52 AM

If we won the lottery, I would probably just take whoever the scouting staffs likes the most, regardless of position. If that's Seth Jones, then I'm okay with that. I don't think you want to be short sighted when picking #1. 

 

That said, if we did have the top pick, I wouldn't be adverse to trading down a few spots either. It depends on the return though. In 2002, the return was the option to swap positions in the first round the following year. We would obviously have no interest in that since there wouldn't be a pick to swap.

 

I also don't see us trading a #1 pick away when the draft is in our home building though. I am sure management is aware that they just had a great fan response this season in terms of turn out and ticket sales, and wouldn't want to lose that excitement following a heartbreaking turn for the worse this season. Then again, this team usually does what's best for the team and not the fans, so....


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Posted 13 April 2013 - 10:13 AM

If we won the lottery, I would probably just take whoever the scouting staffs likes the most, regardless of position. If that's Seth Jones, then I'm okay with that. I don't think you want to be short sighted when picking #1. 

 

That said, if we did have the top pick, I wouldn't be adverse to trading down a few spots either. It depends on the return though. In 2002, the return was the option to swap positions in the first round the following year. We would obviously have no interest in that since there wouldn't be a pick to swap.

 

I also don't see us trading a #1 pick away when the draft is in our home building though. I am sure management is aware that they just had a great fan response this season in terms of turn out and ticket sales, and wouldn't want to lose that excitement following a heartbreaking turn for the worse this season. Then again, this team usually does what's best for the team and not the fans, so....

Maybe we can trick a team like that. Hey, we'll trade you #1 pick now if we swap our first picks next year? Totally would work, right?


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Posted 13 April 2013 - 04:40 PM

the sabres just jumped over us so at this moment we'd have the 8th pick or 1st... unless someone behind us wins the lottery.


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Posted 13 April 2013 - 05:26 PM

Did we ever find out why Lou didn't forfeit our first round pick last year? Seemed like a no-brainer with having the second highest pick.

 

I think it had something to do (theoretically) with a first rounder in 2012 being worth more than one in 2014 even if it was a higher pick just becasue you have the asset longer. Not defending it, but I think that's what it was. And I heard the draft next year isn't good but I'm not exactly qualified to answer that 


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Posted 13 April 2013 - 07:18 PM

It's getting pretty evident, at least on the Eastern side of things, it's gonna take a pretty big effort to move down the standings.   These teams just will not even compete.   Of course the team that finally catches us has to be the one we have the tiebreakers on.


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Posted 14 April 2013 - 04:36 PM

I think it had something to do (theoretically) with a first rounder in 2012 being worth more than one in 2014 even if it was a higher pick just becasue you have the asset longer. Not defending it, but I think that's what it was. And I heard the draft next year isn't good but I'm not exactly qualified to answer that

it was stupid move...shouldnt have chanced it and what if we're a bottom ten or worse next year
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Posted 14 April 2013 - 05:43 PM

Buffalo winning today, that'll kick us to 9th, but pretty tenuous with two games in hand and games coming up against the Flyers and Panthers.   Nashville will tie us with a win today, but again, two games in hand.   That, and they probably won't win.


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Posted 14 April 2013 - 05:47 PM

Buffalo winning today, that'll kick us to 9th, but pretty tenuous with two games in hand and games coming up against the Flyers and Panthers.   Nashville will tie us with a win today, but again, two games in hand.   That, and they probably won't win.

 

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 11:10 PM

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 12:32 AM

1. Florida - 32 Pts 7 GR
2. Colorado - 35 Pts 5 GR
3. Calgary - 36 Pts 6 GR
4. Carolina - 36 Pts 7 GR
5. Tampa Bay - 37 Pts 6 GR
6. Nashville - 38 Pts 4 GR
7. Philadelphia - 39 Pts 6 GR
8. Edmonton - 39 Pts 7 GR
9. New Jersey - 40 Pts 6 GR


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Posted 16 April 2013 - 09:29 AM

Philadelphia and Edmonton both have tiebreakers on NJ - I think the highest we could draft is 7th, barring a lottery win which is of course extremely unlikely.


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Posted 16 April 2013 - 11:47 AM

I swear, knowing this Devils team, they'll win out here and end up drafting a relatively insignificant player at like 15th overall.
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Posted 16 April 2013 - 12:51 PM

I'm not really up to date on the specifics on how the lottery works.. How high could we theoretically draft if we win the lottery? (Assuming we end up on a "natural" 7th.)


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Posted 16 April 2013 - 12:54 PM


I'm not really up to date on the specifics on how the lottery works.. How high could we theoretically draft if we win the lottery? (Assuming we end up on a "natural" 7th.)

Now if you win the Draft Lottery, instead of moving up four spots, you automatically jump to 1st.

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 01:00 PM

Oh I see. That's new from this year? How do they do the lottery? I assume the worst team still has the best odds of drafting first.. Anyone know the specifics of the odds? I guess this is probably info available on some nhl website.. :o


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Posted 16 April 2013 - 01:05 PM

Oh I see. That's new from this year? How do they do the lottery? I assume the worst team still has the best odds of drafting first.. Anyone know the specifics of the odds? I guess this is probably info available on some nhl website.. :o

 

here's the breakdown

 

Team 1 –  25.0%
Team 2 — 18.8%
Team 3 — 14.2%
Team 4 — 10.7%
Team 5 — 8.1%
Team 6 — 6.2%
Team 7 — 4.7%
Team 8 — 3.6%
Team 9 — 2.7%
Team 10 — 2.1%
Team 11 — 1.5%
Team 12 — 1.1%
Team 13 — 0.8%
Team 14 — 0.5%


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Posted 16 April 2013 - 01:51 PM

Aha. Thanks a lot. :D


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Posted 16 April 2013 - 09:38 PM

The Flyers win tonight bumped us to 8th.  Any Oilers points will send us to 7th.   But Minny just scored to make it 2-1.

 

Tampa is also heading to the SO, if they win, they go to 39 points.   So, who knows.


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Posted 16 April 2013 - 09:39 PM

I swear, knowing this Devils team, they'll win out here and end up drafting a relatively insignificant player at like 15th overall.

Yeah, you know Matteau is pretty insignificant, since he's a 29th overall..... :doh1:


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Posted 16 April 2013 - 11:04 PM

Yeah, you know Matteau is pretty insignificant, since he's a 29th overall..... :doh1:


In all fairness im not sure what to think of Matteau... I know he'll be a good role player for the team probably... In a way he couldnt get a spot on a stacked u18 team... But got a spot as an 18 years old on an NHL team with bad depth... He's projected to be a 3rd line winger and will likely always have to live with the fact we picked him when we should have forfeit the pick so if hes not doing enough, we'll hear about how a bad decision it was... All depending on what pick we'll have to give up next season
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