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#221 NCDevsFan

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 08:39 AM

That was the strangest game I have ever seen I think.
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#222 Chuck the Duck

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 08:48 AM

It is incredibly frustrating to watch these games.  Giving up only 13 shots and controlling the play, you should win the god damn game.  But post shots, ridiculous saves by the opponents mediocre goalies, and an inability to finish continues to plague this team at an unprecedented level.   Chico was right last night when he said that they just don't have the skilled finishers.  The funny thing is, you really can't be mad at them.  They work hard as hell and clearly haven't given up (which is a testament to PDB and the coaching staff in my eyes), but they just can't get it done in the offensive zone.

 

Here's to hoping we win the draft lottery again and get to choose between MacKinnon or Drouin.  :cheers:


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Posted 16 April 2013 - 08:49 AM

Definitely watching them play and hearing from Ponikarovsky after the second period...it's pretty clear they are just an old team, who understand exactly what's happening and therefore they're just rolling with it. I'm not blaming the age for the way they're losing recently, but I just feel like if there were a stronger infusion of young blood into the core the team wouldn't be outside the playoff picture right now.

 

 

Tell that to Colorado and Edmonton. Their fans would love 5 or 6 veterans in the locker room right now.


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#224 Daniel

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 08:52 AM

Kovalchuk is only playing with 4 other guys at the time... Theres no excuses for the other 9 forwards not scoring. We had 3 30 goals scorers last season, one per top 3 line.

I mean... At first we were using the excuse that brodeur was injured... Came back. Now we were blaming zubrus injury... Now its kovy...

If you lose one guy and that the whole team cant score... Means you dont have a good depth

 

 

He consisently gets above 22 minutes of ice time a game, and will be paired with everyone from Zajac to Jeff Carter.  He plays the powerplay and penalty kill and quite well at that, and would be better if coaching tried to set him up for a snap shot instead of the slapper from the point. 

 

Whenever he's on the ice, he needs to be accounted for.  You notice that he's out there, and not in the Larsson cough up the puck kind of way. 

 

So far as I'm concerned, he's a top ten forward in the league.  You take him out of the lineup, as well as a top fifteen forward in Parise, your team is going to suffer, and suffer badly at that.  Losing 10 games in a row starting at the exact moment that he's out of the lineup ought to make this plain to everyone, even those that for some bizarre reason believe that goals are random and players that actually score goals are overrated.


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Posted 16 April 2013 - 09:05 AM

He consisently gets above 22 minutes of ice time a game, and will be paired with everyone from Zajac to Jeff Carter.  He plays the powerplay and penalty kill and quite well at that, and would be better if coaching tried to set him up for a snap shot instead of the slapper from the point. 

 

Whenever he's on the ice, he needs to be accounted for.  You notice that he's out there, and not in the Larsson cough up the puck kind of way. 

 

So far as I'm concerned, he's a top ten forward in the league.  You take him out of the lineup, as well as a top fifteen forward in Parise, your team is going to suffer, and suffer badly at that.  Losing 10 games in a row starting at the exact moment that he's out of the lineup ought to make this plain to everyone, even those that for some bizarre reason believe that goals are random and players that actually score goals are overrated.

 

so where do you rank Spezza and Karlsson exactly? cause you know... losing Kovy / Brodeur / Zubs < losing Spezza / Karlsson / Anderson and yet....


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#226 Daniel

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 09:14 AM

so where do you rank Spezza and Karlsson exactly? cause you know... losing Kovy / Brodeur / Zubs < losing Spezza / Karlsson / Anderson and yet....

 

Kovalchuk is a far better player than Spezza.  Karlsson is obviously a world class defenseman, but the loss of a defenseman that's even that good can be more easily mitigated, see how the Devils did well enough last year with a no-name defense, which isn't really what ails the team right now.  For all the heartache about losing Nieds and Stevens, the fact of the matter is, is that in the next two years, the Devils made it to the second round of the playoffs, and beat a Rangers' team in what was the most dominating series I've ever seen a team play. 

 

No, it's never really about one player in a literal sense.  Good goaltending is obviously needed, and the rest of the team needs to play well, or well enough.  The Devils goaltending hasn't been that awful.  For every softie Mary has let in, he makes two very good saves, which you would have noticed, for example, in the Tampa game.  The team is getting its powerplay opportunities, it's generating chances, they just can't put the puck in the godammned net.   Kovalchuk is very good at that. 


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#227 Devilsrock01

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 09:23 AM

calm your titties people were only 6 pts out right now despite this terrible stretch with 12 pts left for grabs


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Posted 16 April 2013 - 09:34 AM

calm your titties people were only 6 pts out right now despite this terrible stretch with 12 pts left for grabs

 

If we lost thursday and the Rags win their next game, we are then out.


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Posted 16 April 2013 - 09:36 AM

calm your titties people were only 6 pts out right now despite this terrible stretch with 12 pts left for grabs

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 09:39 AM

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 09:44 AM

If we lost thursday and the Rags win their next game, we are then out.

is rags win more than 2 games were out

they gota loose 5 & win 2 & we gota win the remaining of our games or at least 5 out of 6 to have a slight chance lol.. prob wont happen



is kovy guna come back before season over?


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Posted 16 April 2013 - 11:41 AM

I think Chico hit the nail on the head last night. He said something along the lines of "You need two things on a hockey team: talent and will. This team has a lot of will, but is seriously lacking in the talent department".

I mean, think about it, there really isn't a textbook "dangerous" player on this team besides Kovalchuck. Elias is crafty but is no longer really considered that dangerous on his own, Zajac and Henrique have proven to lack any sort of finish, and...well, that's it really in terms of dangerous top-6 forwards. Clarkson, Poni and Zubrus are tough power forward/grinder types who are great at cycling the puck and creating space, but what good is that if the result of their work is an easily stopped shot from the point?

This team has lots of character guys, and setup guys, but no finishers. That second line desperately needs a sniper.

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 11:50 AM

Not leaving but perhaps I should have watched Defiance at 9P.  Seems they win when I don't watch.  I will stop watching and see if that breaks the hex on ice.

 

ETA: forgot something.  "Batman would had been nothing without his gay sidekick Robin. Baam!!"  That really wasn't necessary 1guy3cups.  Nobody tell me I have to chill.  Seems like there is no such thing as respect. :rolleyes:

??? They always joked that Batman's sidekick was gay... Lighten up.. It was a joke saying we need more depth.. And I have plenty of respect.. But thanks for the advice, just take it a little less direct next time..


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Posted 16 April 2013 - 01:04 PM

Henrique's glorious chance at the end of the game needs to end up in the back of the net. Chico was right. Our high-end skill is not present, and hence the bad results.

When Chico starts mentioning that "he's excited to see young guys being brought in from the minors and the draft this summer," I know our season is over.

Agreed. You HAVE to elevate the puck there

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 01:26 PM

calm your titties people were only 6 pts out right now despite this terrible stretch with 12 pts left for grabs

 

How can you say that? You know how sensitive I am about my mannaries!


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Posted 16 April 2013 - 06:12 PM

calm your titties people were only 6 pts out right now despite this terrible stretch with 12 pts left for grabs


This. This board is full of negative nancys. Lou will right the ship. Just have some faith dammitt.
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