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#121 Pepperkorn

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 07:41 PM

Per TG: "Devils G Martin Brodeur thinks game vs. Rangers at Yankee Stadium 'will be fun.'" Gee, I sure hope he has good seats... :P .

 

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 08:14 PM

Lou didn't have anything to do with this. This and getting the draft as hosts were by Vanderbeek and the NHL together.

 

you are 100% wrong regarding this outdoor game. the reason the rangers haven't had it at yankee stadium before this was SPECIFICALLY because of Lou. The Yankees would not give them the stadium if the Devils weren't in it.

 

that created problems from two angles - 1) The Islanders and 2) When it was just one game, the league would not want a regional matchup.


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 09:25 PM

Why are there so many outdoor games I do not even care anymore.


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 09:35 PM

Pretty sure winter classic tickets haven't been sent out to season ticket holders before unless pricing and seat location is done super early. Keep in mind whatever you're paying now expect a hefty hike for this game. They will probably credit you then charge you whatever is left over. At least that is what would make sense since we already paid for 44 games. I know there is no chance in hell that they will let me pay $18 for this game. Probably times that by a lot.

Yeah, I'm sure the ticket prices for this outdoor game will be significantly higher than the prices our season ticket holders are paying, but our season ticket holders will still be getting a heck of a deal by paying face value instead of secondary market prices, which will be through the roof.



I don't know why my rep would say otherwise then. Then again he said that the event was yet to be confirmed by the NHL and seemed shocked when I said that it was. I must have gotten a first year ticket rep.

 

But wouldn't this count as a regular season game and not an exhibition. Given that a season ticket package is (of course) a package of all the regular season games wouldn't it logically make sense to believe that this game would be included?

 

There is no way that tickets to this will be "included" with season tickets. We will be refunded for one home game, and then we will be guaranteed the opportunity to purchase that number of seats to the outdoor game should we choose to do so. We are guaranteed seats...but they won't come automatically. We will have to buy them (at face value).


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 09:59 PM

you are 100% wrong regarding this outdoor game. the reason the rangers haven't had it at yankee stadium before this was SPECIFICALLY because of Lou. The Yankees would not give them the stadium if the Devils weren't in it.

 

that created problems from two angles - 1) The Islanders and 2) When it was just one game, the league would not want a regional matchup.

 

That and I'm not sure the relationship between JVB and the league office has improved to the point of him not being a pariah anymore.


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 11:35 PM

you are 100% wrong regarding this outdoor game. the reason the rangers haven't had it at yankee stadium before this was SPECIFICALLY because of Lou. The Yankees would not give them the stadium if the Devils weren't in it.

 

that created problems from two angles - 1) The Islanders and 2) When it was just one game, the league would not want a regional matchup.

 

Wasn't the Pinstripe Bowl the main reason it was not possible for it to be in NY and Yankee Stadium?


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 06:11 AM

You definitely should! This is like a once-in-a-Devil-fan's-lifetime experience lol.. Very cool that you're such a big fan from out there!!

 

Im a huge fan! was there in October hoping the lockout would have ended but alas no :(

 

wonder if someone would loan me a coach for a couple of nights so i can avoid paying accommodation haha. then its a matter of obtaining a ticket lol.


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 07:46 AM

you are 100% wrong regarding this outdoor game. the reason the rangers haven't had it at yankee stadium before this was SPECIFICALLY because of Lou. The Yankees would not give them the stadium if the Devils weren't in it.

that created problems from two angles - 1) The Islanders and 2) When it was just one game, the league would not want a regional matchup.


I'm still not sure that Lou was actually the one preventing a Winter Classic there up until now.. I just can't believe that the rest of the board would allow Lou to block a huge event for the stadium simply for self-interest.. You're elected to a board to help that particular organization, not leverage it to further your own agenda
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Posted 18 April 2013 - 09:06 AM

Wasn't the Pinstripe Bowl the main reason it was not possible for it to be in NY and Yankee Stadium?

 

Yup, it would have been pretty much impossible to go from the football setup to the Winter Classic set up in 3-4 days.


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 10:01 AM

I'm still not sure that Lou was actually the one preventing a Winter Classic there up until now.. I just can't believe that the rest of the board would allow Lou to block a huge event for the stadium simply for self-interest.. You're elected to a board to help that particular organization, not leverage it to further your own agenda

 

 

But then again, think about it this way. The league (and NBC) have been on Philly's balls for a couple years now. I'm sure Yankee Stadium/NYC-based Winter Classic was never really a serious consideration until this year. And after last year's playoffs NY-NJ series and the good ratings in NY-NJ, not to mention a nice jump in our attendance this year, it probably all clicked together and became a serious idea in motion.


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 10:06 AM

Wasn't the Pinstripe Bowl the main reason it was not possible for it to be in NY and Yankee Stadium?


That only came after they knew one game wouldn't work. This idea was in mind (more outdoor games) for years.
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Posted 18 April 2013 - 10:46 AM

Legally, they still sent you a notice. That's all they had to do to cover themselves.

Not really, you can't send a legal notice regular snail mail like that I don't think. That's why you send a subpoena with a witness/process server if the person doesn't respond to it.
I'm pushing my legal knowledge here, but if it was included with other things, like your tickets, that might be ok, because then there is proof you got it(by having gotten the tix and going to games).


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 11:01 AM

Not really, you can't send a legal notice regular snail mail like that I don't think. That's why you send a subpoena with a witness/process server if the person doesn't respond to it.
I'm pushing my legal knowledge here, but if it was included with other things, like your tickets, that might be ok, because then there is proof you got it(by having gotten the tix and going to games).

 

You only get a process server for court documents/subpoena.

 

You can get legal notices by regular snail mail, though it is recommended to send it with signature and/or tracking confirmation.  You are right in if it is sent with your tickets it counts.


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:09 PM

You only get a process server for court documents/subpoena.

 

You can get legal notices by regular snail mail, though it is recommended to send it with signature and/or tracking confirmation.  You are right in if it is sent with your tickets it counts.

That's kind of what I was thinking. At least if the tickets were with it, you can confirm receipt. If you send it on it's own, there's no guarantee unless it's certified mail. And if you don't read it at that point, then it's your fault.

I imagined they would have thought about it before doing anything. I'm sure they discussed this game way back as a possibility for next year and I doubt a team would allow themselves to get into the same bind another team did a couple years ago.


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 01:06 PM

That's kind of what I was thinking. At least if the tickets were with it, you can confirm receipt. If you send it on it's own, there's no guarantee unless it's certified mail. And if you don't read it at that point, then it's your fault.

I imagined they would have thought about it before doing anything. I'm sure they discussed this game way back as a possibility for next year and I doubt a team would allow themselves to get into the same bind another team did a couple years ago.

 

This is what I'm thinking. I'm sure the lawyers were all over this.


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 01:17 PM

This is what I'm thinking. I'm sure the lawyers were all over this.

 

 

Leave it to another set of laywers to attack it...


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 03:05 PM

Lou's pull with the Yankees helped get this done.

 

Will there be a designated home team? I mean the Rags are New York obviously, but that doesn't necessarily make it their home stadium. I mean I'd like the Devils to take home at least 50% of the massive gate.

Neither team gets the "home team gate".  The NHL "buys" the home date from the designated home game as a lump sum.  The "road" team also gets a large chunk of change up-front. The NHL gets the gate, concession cut/etc.  Part of the general fund which is split amongst the 30 teams.  At least that is how it works for the Winter Classic, assuming it would be the same for these games.  Supposedly, the amount the teams get is equivalent to the gate they would receive in a sell-out in their own building.  

 

Didn't read this entire thread, but seems like people in internet world are down on the idea.  I love it.  I would much rather see Rangers-Isles or Rangers-Devs (or both!) play an outdoor game than Rangers-Bruins (which was the rumor).  Unfortunately, NBC isn't interested in the rivalry game.   

 

As for tickets, both teams get a huge chunk.  Last time, Flyers and Rangers season ticket holders all had the chance to buy tickets.  I turned mine down, and won't get excited over these until I see prices.  If they are the same as the game in philly, I will pass again.  Maybe buy and scalp.


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 03:08 PM

Wasn't the Pinstripe Bowl the main reason it was not possible for it to be in NY and Yankee Stadium?

 

 

Wasn't the Pinstripe Bowl the main reason it was not possible for it to be in NY and Yankee Stadium?

Pinstripe Bowl could be moved to earlier in December if need be.  It is an insignificant bowl game and only has 1 year left on the contract.  Haven't heard anything about it continuing beyond this season.  Or, being discontinued.


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 03:10 PM

Yeah, I'm sure the ticket prices for this outdoor game will be significantly higher than the prices our season ticket holders are paying, but our season ticket holders will still be getting a heck of a deal by paying face value instead of secondary market prices, which will be through the roof.



 

There is no way that tickets to this will be "included" with season tickets. We will be refunded for one home game, and then we will be guaranteed the opportunity to purchase that number of seats to the outdoor game should we choose to do so. We are guaranteed seats...but they won't come automatically. We will have to buy them (at face value).

That is what happened to the Flyers season ticket holders last year.  Face Value for the game was $189-399 for most tickets.  Front row field level was only $79, but I know someone who took those and he said he couldn't see a thing.


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 03:18 PM

Kinda ironic we are the home team. I won't be there (obviously), but this event is a sort of a dream come true for me - ever since they started the Winter Classic tradition, I thought a Devils - Rangers game at Yankee would be awesome.

As an NHL fan... I don't dig six outdoor games every season. WC is special because it's a once-a-year event, plus there is all the fuss in hockey (and not hockey only, I guess) media and on top of that, we get to see the teams on 24/7. Those extra games are more of a local attraction. Devs/Isles - Rangers? Hell yeah, I'll watch that, but that' because I care about the teams and the city. Those other games (with the "big" WC being the exception)? I don't really care much about - maybe if I have nothing better to do at the time, I'll watch them.

So yeah, as a Devils fan I'm thrilled. As an NHL fan - it feels to me like they're trying to make Christmas come several times a year.

Oh, and BTW... If Lou is on the Yankees BOG, there is no way he didn't have a say in this, but at the same time, some of you guys really seem to have a low self esteem when it comes to the Devils. All the talk in the last few years about how we could never, ever get a game like this... Now people pointing out how it's all thanks to Lou (because we can't forget the league hates us and Lou had to put a gun to Bettman's head to force him to let us play)... I don't know if we wouldn't get the outdoor game without Lou (my guess is we would - the NHL simply didn't want to piss off any of the NY area teams), but let me tell you this... With the draft being held in Jersey this year and the Devils playing at Yankee Stadium (as hosts) next season, the meaning of the Devils brand in the league and the media probably isn't half as bad as some people paint it.

Now, waiting for my Devs to make a trip to Europe... :)

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