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#21 devlman

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 09:52 PM

I agree that it's a retool as we have a good roster, but just ran into tough injuries and luck. We do need to beef up on the offensive depth tho. But, you can't over analyze a lockout season where there's virtually no practice time. No need to blow up the roster at all.
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 09:58 PM

Matteau may not be around here much longer. He got benched for taking a bad penalty and rode home on the fan bus, instead of the team one. Idiot

what the hell.. what was the penalty? this dumb ass really rode home on the wrong bus or is this a total joke? has got to be a joke.
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 09:59 PM

What scares me about the division next year is the addition of Washington and Columbus on top of the step forward the Islanders took this short season..  You already were dealing with a division with big spenders (NY Rangers, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh) but now you also have to deal with a Columbus organization that's finally grown a brain, Ovie's out of his 2 year hangover in DC.  You can argue perhaps the Flyers are in worse shape than the Devils but they also try to spend themselves out plus own 2 giant "get out of jail free" buyout cards that they'll use on Bryz and maybe Briere to buy themselves cap room.

 

If I'm Lou and the Devils strike a good spot in the lottery I trade down and try to grab more picks.  Say trade a Top-10 #1 for a 2014 #1 and lower #1 in 2013.


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Posted 21 April 2013 - 10:04 PM

What scares me about the division next year is the addition of Washington and Columbus on top of the step forward the Islanders took this short season..  You already were dealing with a division with big spenders (NY Rangers, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh) but now you also have to deal with a Columbus organization that's finally grown a brain, Ovie's out of his 2 year hangover in DC.  You can argue perhaps the Flyers are in worse shape than the Devils but they also try to spend themselves out plus own 2 giant "get out of jail free" buyout cards that they'll use on Bryz and maybe Briere to buy themselves cap room.

 

If I'm Lou and the Devils strike a good spot in the lottery I trade down and try to grab more picks.  Say trade a Top-10 #1 for a 2014 #1 and lower #1 in 2013.

 

love that idea, problem is is there a prospect on the list that anyone above us HAS TO HAVE that badly that they'd part with 2 1sts?

 

Even trying to add a current player on both the NJ/Albany roster I doubt we could get it done...


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Posted 21 April 2013 - 10:04 PM

what the hell.. what was the penalty? this dumb ass really rode home on the wrong bus or is this a total joke? has got to be a joke.

 

Its true. He got benched and got mad.

 

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 10:12 PM

Big picture it's not a huge deal, they just better tell him not to come here for the week.    He shouldn't draw a game check for that


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Posted 21 April 2013 - 10:14 PM

Eh Matteau's a kid, he didn't pull a Cormier and nearly kill someone.  I'm sure Lou will be forgiving of an 18 y/o losing his cool.


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Posted 21 April 2013 - 10:48 PM


Matteau may not be around here much longer. He got benched for taking a bad penalty and rode home on the fan bus, instead of the team one. Idiot


He chose to ride home on a different bus, is this true?!? Are you kidding me?? What a pansy
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 10:50 PM

Big picture it's not a huge deal, they just better tell him not to come here for the week.    He shouldn't draw a game check for that

 

I don't think he could come anyway if he walked off the team, until his former junior team's season ends.

 

Good grief, this guy better not bust if we're giving up a high pick next year just to have him in the organization now.



Eh Matteau's a kid, he didn't pull a Cormier and nearly kill someone.  I'm sure Lou will be forgiving of an 18 y/o losing his cool.

 

I'd almost rather have a moment of temporary insanity on ice than diva behavior off it.  And Matteau's fully capable of temporary insanity on the ice himself.


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Posted 21 April 2013 - 10:55 PM

He rode with his father..this much more interesting
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 11:23 PM

I don't think he could come anyway if he walked off the team, until his former junior team's season ends.

 

Good grief, this guy better not bust if we're giving up a high pick next year just to have him in the organization now.



 

I'd almost rather have a moment of temporary insanity on ice than diva behavior off it.  And Matteau's fully capable of temporary insanity on the ice himself.

 

 

I don't think he could come anyway if he walked off the team, until his former junior team's season ends.

 

Good grief, this guy better not bust if we're giving up a high pick next year just to have him in the organization now.



 

I'd almost rather have a moment of temporary insanity on ice than diva behavior off it.  And Matteau's fully capable of temporary insanity on the ice himself.

 

It could be over by Thursday


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Posted 21 April 2013 - 11:52 PM

He rode with his father..this much more interesting

his father is coaching the armada as an assistant coach... it a non issues

 

no big deal


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 07:25 AM

i don't want a kid who thinks he can quit cos he played a few nhl games. he thinks he's the sh!t.


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 07:47 AM

my biggest question is "who do we get to line with kovy?"  what player/type of player? which top 3 talent will leverage kovys sniper abilities and get the most out of him 5 v 5, and score a bunch of goals himself


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:04 AM

Matteau may not be around here much longer. He got benched for taking a bad penalty and rode home on the fan bus, instead of the team one. Idiot

 

Oh come on.  How old is he?  Where is his ego right now exactly?    You don't dump a kid for trying the role of Prima Donna on for size. 

 

The lesson is obvious and it's amusing.  I mean if he really WANTS to play in a beer league and feel like a god that's fine.  He has a fragile ego right now - it's to be expected. It needed bolstering on the fan bus because he didn't hold a position of superiority with his team mates.  We could go on with such amusing humilating excuses for his behavior.... it's not a shipping offense and who cares really?

 

anyhow.... it's funny and it's how a person learns why being sensitive isn't really productive.   Relax even.

 

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Ohh - I didn't finish reading - you all have it covered.  non issue.


Edited by Pepperkorn, 22 April 2013 - 08:07 AM.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:36 AM

You guys are overreacting to the Matteau story. Most of the young stars in the game today have some funny and embarrassing news headlines in their past: Patrick Kane, especially Evander Kane, Richards, Carter, etc., the list goes on...

 

Not saying he's gonna be a Top-10 player, but how this translates to = "bust" is just amusing. Once again, glad you all aren't the Devils' GM...


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:38 AM

I'm not saying we will get him, but I do think Lou will be poking around Buffalo's camp in the offseason for Thomas Vanek, the guy is supposedly going to be available in the offseason (along with Miller) and he's an elite goal scorer which is what this team needs, the problem with this team this year was the lack of top-line talent outside of Kovy, then when Kovy went down we had zero top line talent and, well, you can see how the team performed with that. I'm not saying throw the kitchen sink at Vanek, but I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility to send some sort of package involving Josefson and Urbom Buffalo's way for an asset that we desperately need, then let Boucher and the kid we draft this year battle it out for that last roster spot up front.
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 09:45 AM

I'm not saying we will get him, but I do think Lou will be poking around Buffalo's camp in the offseason for Thomas Vanek, the guy is supposedly going to be available in the offseason (along with Miller) and he's an elite goal scorer which is what this team needs, the problem with this team this year was the lack of top-line talent outside of Kovy, then when Kovy went down we had zero top line talent and, well, you can see how the team performed with that. I'm not saying throw the kitchen sink at Vanek, but I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility to send some sort of package involving Josefson and Urbom Buffalo's way for an asset that we desperately need, then let Boucher and the kid we draft this year battle it out for that last roster spot up front.

 

I'm not saying we will get him, but I do think Lou will be poking around Buffalo's camp in the offseason for Thomas Vanek, the guy is supposedly going to be available in the offseason (along with Miller) and he's an elite goal scorer which is what this team needs, the problem with this team this year was the lack of top-line talent outside of Kovy, then when Kovy went down we had zero top line talent and, well, you can see how the team performed with that. I'm not saying throw the kitchen sink at Vanek, but I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility to send some sort of package involving Josefson and Urbom Buffalo's way for an asset that we desperately need, then let Boucher and the kid we draft this year battle it out for that last roster spot up front.

 

 

Not bad. And having Josefson play the last stretch here will help our cause. He's actually looked really good, AND FAST.

 

The only thing is Vanek will be worth more than that, especially with the PPG year he's had. I think there'll be similar level players available via UFA considering the cap drop situation that's gonna hit a lot of teams this offseason. I'm thinking we can land a few very good players for cheaper or free.


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 10:14 AM

Josefson's trade value is pretty minimal at this point...he has yet to stick in the NHL and is injury-prone to boot.  He's got some strengths, but not enough. 

 

It actually would be cool to see a deal involving Vanek AND Miller (Miller has only two years left on his deal, so it's not crippling at all...he would be a more-than-solid stopgap goalie), but the Devils don't have the pieces for such a deal...the Sabres are going to want "ready now" players who could help them, and in a significant way.  It would've been nice if Josefson and/or Tedenby could've pulled a Bergfors and shown just enough that a team would be willing to take a shot at them making an immediate impact, but they didn't...oh well... 


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 11:23 AM

I may be in the minority but I would package in Larsson for Vanek, I would do that in a heartbeat.

 

EDIT: eh I thought Vanek was more in his mid 20s so I dont know...


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