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#21 SterioDesign

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 09:00 AM

Not talking about Matteau being a bust, but for Lou not giving up that pick.

 

The whole "In Lou We Trust" is now nonsense.  He has been losing it for a few years now.

 

yeah im with you. I'll never deny what Lou has done for us and everything but it's not excusing him for ALL the bad selfish decisions he took just cause he wants to do things his oldschool way and never adjust


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 09:18 AM

I'm going to cut the kid some slack. I mean c'mon he is fvcking 19 and probably felt that everyone there turned on him. Home probably seemed pretty damn good right about then. I am not saying he doesn't have any fault in the situation though.


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 09:26 AM

there's a press conference soon is should explain the whole thing


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 09:33 AM

matteau penalty was bullsh!t... he slash the other team player after the other one stalk him with his stick....


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 09:40 AM

Not talking about Matteau being a bust, but for Lou not giving up that pick.

 

The whole "In Lou We Trust" is now nonsense.  He has been losing it for a few years now.

 

 

That's total hindsight. When they were scouting Matteau's draft class, the 2014 draft class is 13-15 years old. Lou's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. 2013-2014 could've just as easily been a crap year for draft options. They weren't, so it's easy to blame it on Lou.


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 10:24 AM

That's total hindsight. When they were scouting Matteau's draft class, the 2014 draft class is 13-15 years old. Lou's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. 2013-2014 could've just as easily been a crap year for draft options. They weren't, so it's easy to blame it on Lou.

 

Yes but 29th pick as much far down the first round as you are going to get outside of winning the cup and going 30th.  Plus last year's draft was not impressive or deep by any means.  I would rather him have given it up than risking we sh!t the bed next year and end up with a top 5 pick that was to be forfeited.  I know its a gamble either way but at least go with what you do know instead of worrying what may or may be in a couple years when you have to forfeit it.

 

Lou didn't need a crystal ball to see that we were pick 29th last year.


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 10:39 AM

These are philosophical differences. 

 

If you don't like the way Lou does things you have 29 other philosophies you can go with. You like what you like.  Who cares if you're from NJ?  Just go find a team you think is swell and post on their board then OK? 

 

or, you know, bitch incessantly and argue moot points all day -- whaddoIcare? 


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 11:29 AM

These are philosophical differences. 

 

If you don't like the way Lou does things you have 29 other philosophies you can go with. You like what you like.  Who cares if you're from NJ?  Just go find a team you think is swell and post on their board then OK? 

 

or, you know, bitch incessantly and argue moot points all day -- whaddoIcare? 

 

Those 29 other GM's usually have to answer to someone.

 

Lou is locked into his position no matter how much he succeeds or screws up.

 

THATS the philosophical difference.


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 11:36 AM

per StepaneRDSjunior

 

Matteau libere officiel #Armada

 

means he's really gone and not playing for them anymore... wow


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 11:38 AM

It's rather foolish to compare the drafting situations of Merrill and Matteau, isn't it?

Merrill was considered a "risky" steal that dropped into the second round (Devils didn't have their first that year, sent it to Atlanta for Kovy).

Matteau was the 29th pick in an unimpressive draft year. No special hype or issues, just a late pick. It'll be interesting to see how this pans out.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 11:40 AM

Those 29 other GM's usually have to answer to someone.

Lou is locked into his position no matter how much he succeeds or screws up.

THATS the philosophical difference.


Lou does have to answer to someone. So does Holland in Detroit for that matter. Difference being their past gives them a lot of rope. GM'ing in the NHL is like an old boys' network anyway. Darcy's been in Buffalo forever without winning a thing. Same with Poile. Rutherford's been in Carolina forever, Sather in NY, etc.
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 11:46 AM

Lou does have to answer to someone. So does Holland in Detroit for that matter. Difference being their past gives them a lot of rope. GM'ing in the NHL is like an old boys' network anyway. Darcy's been in Buffalo forever without winning a thing. Same with Poile. Rutherford's been in Carolina forever, Sather in NY, etc.

 

Some have more rope than others, but Lou has it locked up completely and have no been in their positions as long as Lou has.


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 11:46 AM

Not talking about Matteau being a bust, but for Lou not giving up that pick.

 

The whole "In Lou We Trust" is now nonsense.  He has been losing it for a few years now.

 

I agree this was another mis-step for Lou.  Picking second to last seemed like a SLAM DUNK to forfeit the pick....


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 11:58 AM

Nevermind.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 12:04 PM

He's been released from the Armada.


So..can the Devils call him back up for a few games? I'm guessing they can't.
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 12:05 PM

Those 29 other GM's usually have to answer to someone.

 

Lou is locked into his position no matter how much he succeeds or screws up.

 

THATS the philosophical difference.

That's not the philosophical difference I'm referring to.

 

I like how Lou runs things.  I agree with most of his moves and understand those I think are sort of crap. I'd prefer he answer to no one (though I do not agree with you on that). 

 

That's why I'm a Devils fan.

 

You think his philosophy sucks.  So go root for a different team.  Especially because you think the guy answers to no one.  Why are you wasting your time and mental energy?


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 12:14 PM

Ugh. Should have forfeited this pick.
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 12:15 PM

per TG

 

Devils' 2012 1st rd pick Stefan Matteau has been released by Blainville-Boisbriand (QMJHL) for behavior "unacceptable to our organization"



That's not the philosophical difference I'm referring to.

 

I like how Lou runs things.  I agree with most of his moves and understand those I think are sort of crap. I'd prefer he answer to no one (though I do not agree with you on that). 

 

That's why I'm a Devils fan.

 

You think his philosophy sucks.  So go root for a different team.  Especially because you think the guy answers to no one.  Why are you wasting your time and mental energy?

 

Well thats a bit extreme... you can hate the way Steve Jobs use to market or do things... you can still LOVE everything about the iphone... 


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 12:21 PM

Maybe the NHL will give us back our pick as compensation for this one...lol


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 12:27 PM

per TG

 

Devils' 2012 1st rd pick Stefan Matteau has been released by Blainville-Boisbriand (QMJHL) for behavior "unacceptable to our organization"



 

Well thats a bit extreme... you can hate the way Steve Jobs use to market or do things... you can still LOVE everything about the iphone... 

A hockey team is not an inanimate iphone.

 

I find it difficult to believe that Devils84 enjoys the product output of these specific hockey players put together and guided by the specific hockey philosophy espoused by Lou Lamoriello.

 

His posts have, in fact, lead me to believe quite the opposite.  Perhaps this is a geographic loyalty he's clinging to?  Perhaps it is a love based on something as mundane as uniforms.

 

In any event.  It is clearly not Devils hockey he is enamored of - thus I would prefer that he, though I cannot make him, follow a team who's product he does enjoy.  Or start posting in a manner more congruous to that of a true Devils fan - a fan of "Devils hockey."

 

(above to be read in Spock's voice please -- I'm very into Star trek and my daughter is in love with Spock and makes me talk like him all the time now.. I'm afraid it's beginning to stick.)


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