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#21 MantaRay

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:37 PM

The Devils have two more years on their lease in Albany, and the Phantoms will be moving to a brand new arena in Allentown, PA, in 2014. There is a remote possibility that the Phantoms will be kicked out of Glens Falls this offseason (there are a couple of AHL franchises looking for new homes, and rumor has it that Glens Falls might be able to land one of them), but even then, they'd only be in Trenton (or wherever) for one year while they wait for the arena in Allentown to be ready.

 

That would make sense for the Phantoms to play in Trenton one year and try to re-energize the area for hockey, then bring back the Titans using the Phantoms season ticket holder base for 2015


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Posted 26 April 2013 - 04:33 PM

I had actually heard about this from a team employee a few weeks ago and kind of hoped it wouldn't be true.  Made it to four games this year (all after the lockout ended, ironically), and was really looking forward to going to more next year.

 

If the Phantoms or another team were to play there for next season, I would instantly be a fan, regardless of what NHL team they'd be associated with.


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Posted 27 April 2013 - 08:16 AM

I had actually heard about this from a team employee a few weeks ago and kind of hoped it wouldn't be true.  Made it to four games this year (all after the lockout ended, ironically), and was really looking forward to going to more next year.

 

If the Phantoms or another team were to play there for next season, I would instantly be a fan, regardless of what NHL team they'd be associated with.

 

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 08:33 AM

This is too bad. I enjoyed the games. I always thought the decline started when the Devils bought them.


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Posted 27 April 2013 - 01:49 PM

Doesn't cost much more?

I spent around $200 for 7 games for myself and 2 kids. Granted my youngest was free, but the Devils games we went to this year were more like $150 per.

Night and day quality? No sh!t.

But in Trenton we were on the glass, had interaction with players and rarely left without a puck gifted from the ice. Once a player gave my kid his stick as well. That leaves an impression on your kids.

We typically went to just as many NHL games as ECHL too, although I have only been to Newark three times this season because of the short season.

I didn't say it was cheaper, but compared to the experience, it was well worth the extra bucks.  I don't know where you sat for $150 per, but I went to about 6 games, and never paid more than 45 per, and had excellent seats (great site lines) usually 7-10 rows up.  Bought my tix on Stub Hub, but I digress...Perception is reality, and the PERCEPTION is that it is very unsafe there.  They did little marketing and people had too many alternative choices.  For those bashing the Devils handling of this team, people in this area, are primarily Flyers/Rangers fans.  I've been to several games in Trenton, and I've got to be honest, it was decent hockey, but not much of an experience.   


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Posted 27 April 2013 - 08:43 PM

There is also a perception that Newark is unsafe.


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Posted 28 April 2013 - 10:00 AM

I didn't say it was cheaper, but compared to the experience, it was well worth the extra bucks.  I don't know where you sat for $150 per, but I went to about 6 games, and never paid more than 45 per, and had excellent seats (great site lines) usually 7-10 rows up.  Bought my tix on Stub Hub, but I digress...Perception is reality, and the PERCEPTION is that it is very unsafe there.  They did little marketing and people had too many alternative choices.  For those bashing the Devils handling of this team, people in this area, are primarily Flyers/Rangers fans.  I've been to several games in Trenton, and I've got to be honest, it was decent hockey, but not much of an experience.

$150 for a family.

Your argument is pretty weak. Nobody attending a ECHL game is going to confuse it for NHL an level of play, and for my kids this has done way more to hook them on the sport than sitting in the 100 level at the Rock. So for me that was pretty valuable.

And Trenton being unsafe? I'd venture to say it was waaaaaaaaaay more unsafe 14 years ago when they were filling the place. And even then, its right off a highway.

No question the Devils did damage to the market, but I'd say its pretty weak to pin it on just that. Overall people were happy to have their team name back, but then there were many a night the last two season where it looked identical in the stands to a T-Devils game.

There have been hints that there is a bit more to the story here than just attendance, so lets see how that plays out. My guess is some sort of obligation wasn't met that was promised when the team was hastily revived last year. Ashmore reported is for a team to return, it would be treated as an expansion team and pay the fees associated with that. So if you read between those lines the league wasn't paid something it was expecting right?
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Posted 30 April 2013 - 12:21 PM

I've been going to Titans games for ten years and never felt unsafe.  You park literally across the street from the arena, you don't have to do any driving through dangerous streets since it is right there on the highway, and there are police officers out there directing traffic.  That is a lame excuse to not go to a game.


Me too, don't now what anyone is talking about. The burbs are killing Trenton, as is the economy, otherwise there'd be more police. But even as it is I've never felt unsafe. Who is going to mug you with a couple hundred people around you?
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Posted 30 April 2013 - 12:27 PM

I have gone to Titans game on and off for 10 years too and NEVER had an issue.   Far from it.  

 

IF the Titans comeback I will go to as many games as I can.


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Posted 30 April 2013 - 12:49 PM

I guess we could go back and fourth forever.  As a business owner in Trenton, I have much invested in this city.  I hate what it has become, but it is what it is.  Hockey will not draw fans from the city to the games.  It must pull from the suburbs.  The very papers that cover Trenton hockey, also carry stories of shootings, murder, and violence on almost a daily basis.  People from the 'burbs will not venture to this city for minor league hockey.  If they did, there'd be no need for this thread.  (Oh, and the difference between Newark and Trenton?  The city of Newark has done a great job in creating an entertainment district where you can grab a bite to eat, catch a game, and grab a beer before heading home.  Police are everywhere on game night.  What has Trenton got?)


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Posted 30 April 2013 - 01:17 PM

There is also a perception that Newark is unsafe.

 

I've never heard of this perception.... :whistling:


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Posted 12 January 2014 - 01:28 PM

Sorry to bump ancient news but I was wondering if there has ever been anything to follow the original announcement? I sincerely want this team back in Trenton. I loved this team and now I have two kids that would love to see this team play.
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Posted 12 January 2014 - 02:44 PM

I believe there is a class action lawsuit out there as many STH were not refunded.

I wouldn't hold my breath for anything to return soon
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Posted 12 January 2014 - 02:58 PM

Yeah the most recent news I can find involves the franchise still owing money to season ticket holders and charities, so I wouldn't bank on that. Extremely disappointing, I had a great time at each of the handful of games I made it to last year.


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Posted 12 January 2014 - 03:58 PM

what is the point of Devils having 4 ahl games in A.C.? Are they trying to determine whether it'll fly there? 


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Posted 12 January 2014 - 07:17 PM

I've been going to Titans games for ten years and never felt unsafe.  You park literally across the street from the arena, you don't have to do any driving through dangerous streets since it is right there on the highway, and there are police officers out there directing traffic.  That is a lame excuse to not go to a game.

The whole feeling unsafe thing is complete garbage, and like I said in an older thread, steams from ignorance. High crime rate or not, what makes anyone think they're going to be a target walking a block or two to an arena with thousands of other people. Besides, random acts of violence are an extremely small percentage of crime. It's mostly drug/gang related in America's urban areas, especially Trenton. You could walk through the worst areas of the worst cities, and the chances of anything happening to you are still very slim.


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Posted 12 January 2014 - 07:21 PM

The whole feeling unsafe thing is complete garbage, and like I said in an older thread, steams from ignorance. High crime rate or not, what makes anyone think they're going to be a target walking a block or two to an arena with thousands of other people. Besides, random acts of violence are an extremely small percentage of crime. It's mostly drug/gang related in America's urban areas, especially Trenton. You could walk through the worst areas of the worst cities, and the chances of anything happening to you are still very slim.

 

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 10:20 PM

what is the point of Devils having 4 ahl games in A.C.? Are they trying to determine whether it'll fly there? 

 

They've done it for a few years now. I think it's likely in part to try to grow a fanbase in Jersey but more to draw fans of local teams (they keep playing Wilkes-Barre [Pens affiliate], Hershey [Caps] and the Phantoms [Flyers affiliate, who are moving back to eastern PA next year]).


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Posted 12 January 2014 - 11:11 PM

The whole feeling unsafe thing is complete garbage, and like I said in an older thread, steams from ignorance. High crime rate or not, what makes anyone think they're going to be a target walking a block or two to an arena with thousands of other people. Besides, random acts of violence are an extremely small percentage of crime. It's mostly drug/gang related in America's urban areas, especially Trenton. You could walk through the worst areas of the worst cities, and the chances of anything happening to you are still very slim.


Theoretically, I might agree (though to deny the serious crime problem in Trenton is naive), but at the end of the day, perception is reality. No matter, hockey in Trenton is done. Given the way the most recent incarnation left, I see no way anyone will trust anyone else who tries to bring a team in.
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Posted 13 January 2014 - 01:48 AM

(though to deny the serious crime problem in Trenton is naive)

I'm certainly not denying that fact. Trenton has always had a crime problem, and it has gotten significantly worse over the past year.


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