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#1 TheMazz

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 12:14 PM

The following quote is from a recent exchange with TheFourthPeriod:


"Let's be honest. I'm not stupid. I know I have a year left and they can
probably deal me for prospects, young guys, whatever else is out
there," Vanek told the Buffalo News this weekend. "Yeah, I've thought
about it. If it looks like it's a long rebuild, then it probably makes
sense for both parties to move on."

 

http://www.thefourth.../buf130429.html

 

 

Get it done Lou.. now is your chance to snag that top six forward we all have been waiting for!


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Posted 29 April 2013 - 12:16 PM

A very hard deal to make without 1st round draft picks to give up unless they want it to be this years for Vanek. Unlikely. 


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Posted 29 April 2013 - 12:22 PM

Do not want to trade this years first for anything.  Especially for what will likely amount to one year of Vanek.


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Posted 29 April 2013 - 12:32 PM

Vanek and Kovy on both the 1st and 2nd lines would be a huge boost for us.  The question is, what do you give up?

 

Tallinder? lol


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Posted 29 April 2013 - 12:35 PM

We can't afford it.
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 12:35 PM

Not that I don't think Buffalo wants a 1st round draft pick, but I would imagine they'd prefer a package of 3-4 solid prospects, almost-NHL ready or better. I think Buffalo's GM feels more a sense of urgency than the patience of waiting for like an Islanders-style 5-6 year "rebuild".

 

It'd be bittersweet. As with any trade for a major player, it'd take some important pieces of the Devils future to land Vanek, not sure how I'll feel if we gave up some of them.


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Posted 29 April 2013 - 12:38 PM

It's amazing the kind of negativity and dark cloud that's been over the fanbase and management in Buffalo literally ALL YEAR. What scares me is that both our teams finished at 48 points. Maybe because of 2011-2012 season and our management's track record, we're trained not to think "rebuild" after a season like this.


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Posted 29 April 2013 - 12:42 PM

Seems as though Miller wants out too.

http://espn.go.com/n...-buffalo-sabres



It's amazing the kind of negativity and dark cloud that's been over the fanbase and management in Buffalo literally ALL YEAR. What scares me is that both our teams finished at 48 points. Maybe because of 2011-2012 season and our management's track record, we're trained not to think "rebuild" after a season like this.

Why is Buffalo ahead of us in the draft when we both have 48 points? Isn't the first tiebreak wins, of which we have fewer?


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Posted 29 April 2013 - 12:44 PM

Tallinder + Henrique + Urbom + Tedenby + 2nd/3rd

Wishful thinking? 


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Posted 29 April 2013 - 12:46 PM

It's amazing the kind of negativity and dark cloud that's been over the fanbase and management in Buffalo literally ALL YEAR. What scares me is that both our teams finished at 48 points. Maybe because of 2011-2012 season and our management's track record, we're trained not to think "rebuild" after a season like this.

 

We can afford one or two seasons like this. I don't think the Devils will make being out of the playoffs a regular thing. Not to mention the Devils are ovbiously the more successful franchise. We might have both finished at 48 points but it's two different teams really IMO.

 

I don't think Vanek is going to command such a massive return for a pending FA. We could easily give up a Kovy like return. Josefson/Tallinder/Urbom  = Bergfors/Oydua/Cormier.

 

And I wouldn't think that'd be giving up too much either.


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Posted 29 April 2013 - 12:46 PM

Seems as though Miller wants out too.

http://espn.go.com/n...-buffalo-sabres


Why is Buffalo ahead of us in the draft when we both have 48 points? Isn't the first tiebreak wins, of which we have fewer?

First tie breaker is regulation or overtime wins (basically excludes shootout wins) and unfortunately we have 17 and the Sabres 14.
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 12:52 PM

It's amazing the kind of negativity and dark cloud that's been over the fanbase and management in Buffalo literally ALL YEAR. What scares me is that both our teams finished at 48 points. Maybe because of 2011-2012 season and our management's track record, we're trained not to think "rebuild" after a season like this.

 

Buffalo is in a much worse spot than we are.  They should've been a much worse team than they ended up being, they traded away one of their top players and 2 more look like they're definitely leaving.  They're possibly entering a years-long rebuild.


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Posted 29 April 2013 - 01:11 PM

And Petey wants Vanek in Jersey. :thumbsup:


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Posted 29 April 2013 - 01:16 PM

Before you even consider it, an extension needs to be worked out.  But, the speculation is just for fun.  It isn't happening.


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Posted 29 April 2013 - 01:25 PM

a lot of people are assuming they ask for a first rounder.  a lot of times we'll see in a scenario like this (and in other sports) where you end up giving less than you think.  The closer it gets until Vanek's contract runs out, the more urgent Buffalo would be.

 

Maybe a future first, a couple of 2nds, and a third, Tallinder, and Urbom?  Thats CERTAINLY wishful thinking but if you give up three picks and send basically two NHL ready DMen, its not completely unreasonable.

 

BUT of course, as Daniel stated, you MUST work out an extension on that contract.

 

This is exciting, but more likely just hype over something that wont happen


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Posted 29 April 2013 - 01:28 PM

Not happening.
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 01:34 PM

a lot of people are assuming they ask for a first rounder.  a lot of times we'll see in a scenario like this (and in other sports) where you end up giving less than you think.  The closer it gets until Vanek's contract runs out, the more urgent Buffalo would be.

 

Maybe a future first, a couple of 2nds, and a third, Tallinder, and Urbom?  Thats CERTAINLY wishful thinking but if you give up three picks and send basically two NHL ready DMen, its not completely unreasonable.

 

BUT of course, as Daniel stated, you MUST work out an extension on that contract.

 

This is exciting, but more likely just hype over something that wont happen

 

I'd think the only way this deal happens is if the Devils work out an extension with Vanek before hand...it's too bad that sign and trades in the NHL aren't allowed. Still I think we have enough tradable assets for a deal to be made. We have the cap room to sign him but we also have other players to sign as well.. so who knows how much cap room will be left over to potentially make such a signing happen.


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Posted 29 April 2013 - 01:59 PM

Tallinder + Henrique + Urbom + Tedenby + 2nd/3rd

Wishful thinking? 

 

Don't think they'll want Tallinder (they've been there and done that, though with only one year left on his deal, he's attractive from a money and years standpoint), and Tedenby is just a throw-in at this point...I don't think they care one way or another if he's a part of this deal...he's a bag of pucks.

 

Henrique, Urbom, this year's 1st and something else might get them to listen. 


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Posted 29 April 2013 - 02:17 PM

Don't think they'll want Tallinder (they've been there and done that, though with only one year left on his deal, he's attractive from a money and years standpoint), and Tedenby is just a throw-in at this point...I don't think they care one way or another if he's a part of this deal...he's a bag of pucks.

 

Henrique, Urbom, this year's 1st and something else might get them to listen. 

 

Pointless to include Henrique in any of these potential deals....he is going to be a quality player for us for some time....

 

The point is to SUPPLEMENT our forwards, not give one away to get another back...


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Posted 29 April 2013 - 02:25 PM

Henrique, Urbom, this year's 1st and something else might get them to listen. 

 

I think the Sabres do that deal in a second. 


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