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#41 eaglejelly

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 02:20 PM

He looked lost out there.  As much as I respect the guy for getting to the show, I can't help but feel his roster spot couldn't be utilized better for both the US and the Devils.

 

Every time Gionta gets called out on this forum, he answers with a goal


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#42 aylbert

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 02:32 PM

What he lacks in talent he makes up with work ethic.


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 02:43 PM

Put Gionta's heart in Kovalchuk's body please.


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 03:06 PM

Every time Gionta gets called out on this forum, he answers with a goal

lol. It's hilarious. I'm no Gionta lover, but he's been a solid 4th liner for us. The only issue I have with him is his smallness being so evident on the PK, otherwise I'm fine with him on our 4th line.


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#45 SterioDesign

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 03:41 PM

lol. It's hilarious. I'm no Gionta lover, but he's been a solid 4th liner for us. The only issue I have with him is his smallness being so evident on the PK, otherwise I'm fine with him on our 4th line.

 

thats true but again... is it Gionta's fault that he's small and that the coach put him on the PK ? no. Its our lack of depth. No need to knock on him for that.


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#46 DJ Eco

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 03:42 PM

Put Gionta's heart in Kovalchuk's body please.

 

Hope that's not a dig on Kovalchuk, but a compliment toward Gionta. I don't think Kovy has any more proving to do to our fanbase after playing most of the playoffs last year with practically a broken back. I'm sure none of us have gone through weeks of such pain to further a cause, I'd say that's heart.


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 03:49 PM

Hope that's not a dig on Kovalchuk, but a compliment toward Gionta. I don't think Kovy has any more proving to do to our fanbase after playing most of the playoffs last year with practically a broken back. I'm sure none of us have gone through weeks of such pain to further a cause, I'd say that's heart.

Compliment of Gio.

 

Maybe I should have said too bad Gio doesn't have Kovalchuks body but that sounds a little weird. :giggle:


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 03:55 PM

Compliment of Gio.

 

Maybe I should have said too bad Gio doesn't have Kovalchuks body but that sounds a little weird. :giggle:

 

hahahahahahaha Makes more sense, but yeah, sounds weird haha...


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 04:09 PM

Compliment of Gio.

 

Maybe I should have said too bad Gio doesn't have Kovalchuks body but that sounds a little weird. :giggle:

 

well to be honest i'd REALLY like to see Kovy play with more energy and hustle, especially on the backcheck... he's often gliding towards where he's heading rather than skating full speed ala Gionta, Carter, Parise etc etc. even when he'd really need to.

 

i'd like to see a Kovalchuk playing steady like he is when he goes on a mission and take over a whole shift cause he want to make something happen. Im never sure if its him sticking to the system and slowing things down or just the way he is. But certainly when Kovy decides "alright, this puck is on the net in the next 10-15 seconds" it's always a fvcking beauty.


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 04:15 PM

Could it be that he is pacing himself due to the minutes he plays?  I know he wants to be out there and I know he is a work horse, but a forward playing those minutes ain't easy to keep the hustle at 100%.

 

well to be honest i'd REALLY like to see Kovy play with more energy and hustle, especially on the backcheck... he's often gliding towards where he's heading rather than skating full speed ala Gionta, Carter, Parise etc etc. even when he'd really need to.

 

i'd like to see a Kovalchuk playing steady like he is when he goes on a mission and take over a whole shift cause he want to make something happen. Im never sure if its him sticking to the system and slowing things down or just the way he is. But certainly when Kovy decides "alright, this puck is on the net in the next 10-15 seconds" it's always a fvcking beauty.


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 04:23 PM

well to be honest i'd REALLY like to see Kovy play with more energy and hustle, especially on the backcheck... he's often gliding towards where he's heading rather than skating full speed ala Gionta, Carter, Parise etc etc. even when he'd really need to.

 

i'd like to see a Kovalchuk playing steady like he is when he goes on a mission and take over a whole shift cause he want to make something happen. Im never sure if its him sticking to the system and slowing things down or just the way he is. But certainly when Kovy decides "alright, this puck is on the net in the next 10-15 seconds" it's always a fvcking beauty.

 

I think it's him pacing himself and sticking to the system. If he went that speed 25 minutes a game, he'd be dead. Gio can get away with that playing 4th line minutes. The important thing with Kovy is tends to turn it on when it matters, like the playoffs last year as someone said earlier. I'd love to have seen what he could have done with a healthy back.


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 04:29 PM

I think it's him pacing himself and sticking to the system. If he went that speed 25 minutes a game, he'd be dead. Gio can get away with that playing 4th line minutes. The important thing with Kovy is tends to turn it on when it matters, like the playoffs last year as someone said earlier. I'd love to have seen what he could have done with a healthy back.

 

well not to bring that a$$hole back into the discussion but Zach was going full speed and playing 20+ minutes. Same thing with Ovechkin and a bunch of guys... their bodies might not hold and Kovy might last longer that way of course. I'd just like to see that part of his game more often cause his gliding on the backcheck certainly cost us a few times. And when he's going on a mission godamnit he's so fvcking dangerous he's creating a very good scoring chance almost every time


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 05:31 PM

well not to bring that a$$hole back into the discussion but Zach was going full speed and playing 20+ minutes. Same thing with Ovechkin and a bunch of guys... their bodies might not hold and Kovy might last longer that way of course. I'd just like to see that part of his game more often cause his gliding on the backcheck certainly cost us a few times. And when he's going on a mission godamnit he's so fvcking dangerous he's creating a very good scoring chance almost every time

 

Ovechkin doesn't play penalty kill, so this is already a moot point, not to mention he doesn't play the minutes Kovalchuk does. Even Zach doesn't play the kind of minutes Kovalchuk plays, and it's debatable whether or not Zach's style of play can be maintained in the long-run.

 

Kovalchuk paces himself the same exact reason Brodeur paces himself. He wants to play in every situation he can, every game he can, and he wants to still be able to be effective in his late-30s and beyond. Kovalchuk and Brodeur put less wear and tear on their bodies in the way they play, and for similar reasons.


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 05:40 PM

well not to bring that a$$hole back into the discussion but Zach was going full speed and playing 20+ minutes. Same thing with Ovechkin and a bunch of guys... their bodies might not hold and Kovy might last longer that way of course. I'd just like to see that part of his game more often cause his gliding on the backcheck certainly cost us a few times. And when he's going on a mission godamnit he's so fvcking dangerous he's creating a very good scoring chance almost every time

 

 

Also to add: Kovalchuk has assumed more of a quarterback role in just about every situation he plays now. He rushes into the zone, sets up way more plays than the guys you mentioned, or many players of his caliber. Asking to see more "heart" from him is like asking Peyton Manning why he isn't showing the heart or "effort" that his offensive tackle is.


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 05:55 PM

Whoa, didn't mean to cause an actual conversation lol I accidentally implied Kovy has no heart, I honestly meant that I wish Gionta had the body and talent to go with his work ethic.


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Posted 09 May 2013 - 07:08 AM

Whoa, didn't mean to cause an actual conversation lol I accidentally implied Kovy has no heart, I honestly meant that I wish Gionta had the body and talent to go with his work ethic.

 

i dont think no one implied Kovy had no heart either. I'd just like to see more hustle and less gliding from Kovy


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Posted 09 May 2013 - 07:40 AM

Anyone see Carter's shoulder checking the Finnish goalie? Haha that was pretty cool
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Posted 09 May 2013 - 10:58 AM

Sorry about "my" team... kovy...


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Posted 09 May 2013 - 04:47 PM

how come a guy like lil gio sees some success and a tedenby doesnt? 


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Posted 09 May 2013 - 05:33 PM

how come a guy like lil gio sees some success and a tedenby doesnt? 

 

Gio didn't reach the NHL until he was about 28. He didn't do anything spectacular in the AHL, either.

 

Teddy, as much as he's disliked here and as lacking as his overall game is, did manage 22 points in his first NHL season as a 21 year old.


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