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#1 JacobPaul1995

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 07:58 AM

its apparent that Bryce Salvador wasn't the best choice for captain. if Pete DeBoer strips him of the "C", who do you think would make a better Captain and Alternates?

My opinion is:
Captain: Patrik Elias

First Alternate: Ilya Kovalchuk

Second Alternate: Andy Greene

Third Alternate: David Clarkson


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 08:07 AM

I think he is a bad player but fine captain. The only way we have a new captain is if sal gets moved and that is going to be something very hard to do
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 08:19 AM

I would like to conspire that he was promised captaincy and a good contract if he faked his concussion so the devils could get under the cap 3 years ago.


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 12:11 PM

Sal is a very good leader. Don't see anyone else with the "C" unless he is gone. Elias deserves the "C" and then Clarkson if it comes to that.
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 12:45 PM

Elias had the C once and didn't like it.  IIRC he said something to the effect that he doesn't want the C.


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 12:51 PM

its apparent that Bryce Salvador wasn't the best choice for captain. 


Can you elaborate on why this is apparent?


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 01:29 PM

Brodeur should have been the captain for 14 years now. Whenever there is a problem, the refs go and talk to him to sort it out, and it's obvious everyone in the locker room respects him. 


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 01:36 PM

Anyone who thinks Elias should be captain must not have been paying attention in 06-07


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 01:39 PM

No one. Cant bring what Zack brought to the table. They have no captain.
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 01:41 PM

Sal is most definitely not the best player on the team, but he, Brodeur, and Elias are definitely the leaders in the locker room. Just think back to training camp in 2011 when he came back from the concussion and a bunch of players talked about the kind of shape he was in and the way he handled himself coming back. Several players (including Zach) said he should be captain before Parise was named. He was a large part of the No-Name Defense and Swarm It Up rally cries in last year's run.

 

They more than likely chose him as captain because Elias doesn't want it, Brodeur can't have it, and they may not want Kovalchuk having more pressure. I don't know if there were many candidates after that. Zajac was a risk for free agency and they probably didn't want to risk that again. After that I don't know. Greene?


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 01:57 PM

Andy Greene should be captain. Great role model on the ice and he was like a father figure to the young guys in those TMZ videos after the Cup. :giggle:


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 02:54 PM

I nominate my cat
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 03:14 PM


Can you elaborate on why this is apparent?

 

I share this opinion, because it was clear some nights he was the worst d-man on the ice, and sitting him was never an option.  You don't healthy scratch your captain; it's just not done.  It pissed me off to no end on those nights where, let's say, Fayne or Larsson were sitting and Salvador was playing.  He's essentially guaranteed a roster spot for this coming year as well.  

 

I'm not saying he should be stripped of the 'C', in fact I feel like such a move would be locker room suicide.  He hasn't done anything to deserve having it removed, he just never should have been given the 'C' in the first place, imo.  

 

The obvious choice for me was Kovalchuk, or Zajac.  Both on long term deals, both likely to be playing top-6 minutes for the duration of their contracts and contribute, etc.


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 03:21 PM

Captains do get healthy scratched, we just don't see it often because they're normally one of the best players on the team.  I don't think Salvador not being scratched had anything do with his captaincy.  He wasn't scratched the year before either in an 82 game schedule.


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 04:54 PM

kovy should be captain... but lou dont want to put more pressure on him


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 05:07 PM

I share this opinion, because it was clear some nights he was the worst d-man on the ice, and sitting him was never an option.  You don't healthy scratch your captain; it's just not done.  It pissed me off to no end on those nights where, let's say, Fayne or Larsson were sitting and Salvador was playing.  He's essentially guaranteed a roster spot for this coming year as well.  

 

I'm not saying he should be stripped of the 'C', in fact I feel like such a move would be locker room suicide.  He hasn't done anything to deserve having it removed, he just never should have been given the 'C' in the first place, imo.  

 

The obvious choice for me was Kovalchuk, or Zajac.  Both on long term deals, both likely to be playing top-6 minutes for the duration of their contracts and contribute, etc.

 

The qualifications shouldn't be scoring ability or length of contract.  It should be based on your command of the locker room, command of the rules, demeanor in stressful situations (discussing calls with Refs) and exemplifying traits to serve as a role model for the team.   I can't fault Sal on any of these qualifications.


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 05:44 PM

kovy should be captain... but lou dont want to put more pressure on him

I imagine Kovy would embrace having the C. Probably more than he did in Atlanta too, his whole stint in Atlanta was just a sh!t show, but I really think he's enjoying his time in NJ. I see Sal as a bridge from Parise to the guy that's going to serve some serious time wearing the C (Kovalchuk)

As for where the rest of the chips fall, I'd see it being

C:Kovalchuk
A:Greene/Zajac (because of Kovalchuk injury sharing of A)
A:Elias.
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 06:28 PM

I'd like Sal to get the C next season......as in  C  U  Later


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 06:34 PM

Kovy. It's his team and he should have been captain already.


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 08:48 PM

I have no problem with DeBoer making Salvador captain and I don't see how any of us can question it....DeBoer is in the dressing room, we're on a forum.


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