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#21 Devils731

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 12:35 PM

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Glen Sather fires another head coach. Five playoff series wins in 12 seasons as GM of NYR.

 

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Francesa, first to report firing, said over last 48 hours Tortorella had a difference in opinion with management over direction of team.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 12:35 PM

I hope Lindy Ruff stays away from NYC.  He is an excellent coach and it would make the team instantly better.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 12:36 PM

I actually enjoyed listening to Torts press conferences.....gonna miss those.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 12:36 PM

no he called it litteraly like 5 minutes before the official news broke out, not something he threw out there months ago

 

he announced it, then KathyStrang reported it and everyone re-tweeted her

 

 

Being 2 seconds earlier than the real media doesn't make up for the 90+% of the time he's wrong.  Єklund (2.3% accurate) gets and deserves the same treatment.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 12:36 PM

It's hard to look at how the Rangers played in the playoffs and think 'this is a team that can win'.  Lundqvist again had a .934 SV% and the team went 5-7.  He had a .931 last year and the Rangers went 10-10.  It's hard to attribute any of Lundqvist's success to Tortorella - he did just fine under Renney, too. 

 

Renney was also a defensive, or at least, trap oriented coach.  Rags also made it another round further with Torts.  A marginal improvement, but improvement nonetheless. 

 

Maybe it was a personality thing.  In the past, you had Torts throw Lunqvist under the bus when he went through cold streaks, which virtually every goalie does. 


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 12:39 PM

Francesa just said that the firing really came together in the last 24 hours, that's why it's a conference call and not a press conference because it wasn't a planned event.

 

That's bush league, if true, you shouldn't make major changes in your organization without planning and discussion, even if ultimately one person makes the call.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 12:40 PM

Renney was also a defensive, or at least, trap oriented coach.  Rags also made it another round further with Torts.  A marginal improvement, but improvement nonetheless. 

 

Maybe it was a personality thing.  In the past, you had Torts throw Lunqvist under the bus when he went through cold streaks, which virtually every goalie does. 

 

The whole team changed.  The only guy left from the 2006 Rangers is Lundqvist.  So it's silly to just blanket say the Rangers were better under Tortorella - this year the Rangers put together a pretty good team on paper, it squeaked into the playoffs, it got probably the most favorable 1st round matchup (well okay 2nd most favorable, #1 would've been Toronto) and squeaked through that, then got pasted in round 2.  


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 12:40 PM

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 12:42 PM

Praise the Hockey Gods for Glen Sather.   He destroys the line-up again and fires the coach.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 12:44 PM

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 12:45 PM

So can Lundqvist be as good without 5 other goalies around him, or will a new coach bring him the goal support he needs? Interesting to see...
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Posted 29 May 2013 - 12:47 PM

I actually enjoyed listening to Torts press conferences.....gonna miss those.

 

Almost nothing better than watching him deal with the media after a Rags loss.  As much as he's a douche, he actually fun to watching during those press conferences.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 12:47 PM

Why trade away Gaborik if they were going to fire Torts anyway if he had a short leash anyway?


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 12:51 PM

How I imagine a post-firing interview with Torts:

Stan - "John, do you think you would have done anything different with how you coached the Rangers?"

Torts - "Stan, I'm not going to go into how I coached or what I would do different...." <then proceeds to talk for 5 minutes on what we would have done differently.>
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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:01 PM

Lmfao, it took all of 15 minutes on Francesa's show for an idiot Rags fan to suggest Messier as the next coach.
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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:04 PM

no he called it litteraly like 5 minutes before the official news broke out, not something he threw out there months ago

 

he announced it, then KathyStrang reported it and everyone re-tweeted her

 

Right. He sees other peoples speculation, and quickly says it's 'confirmed' before anyone confirms it. Then, he claims he had it first.

 

He also said Asomugha to the Jets was a done deal because speculation was high that the Jets were going for him, and sure enough he signed with Philly.

 

Additionally, he had Parise to the Penguins as a done deal. Afterwards, Parise said the Penguins weren't in the late running.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:10 PM

I actually enjoyed listening to Torts press conferences.....gonna miss those.

Almost nothing better than watching him deal with the media after a Rags loss. As much as he's a douche, he actually fun to watching during those press conferences.


I agree. I'm also bummed that I probably won't be able to dislike the next coach as much as I dislike him.

Still though he's great for a post game presser.

Fox Sports web site just posted a page full of presser clips from him. Great stuff.
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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:11 PM

people tend to sh!t on this guy and make fun when his predictions doesnt happen and ignore it when he's right (which he's been quite a few times) but Incarceratedbob broke that news before anyone else.

 

The guy has zero sources, he never "calls" anything. 

 

In any event, I believe the Fan/Francesa broke it first.  That's probably where he got it from, considering bob is a sometimes WFAN caller.  At most, someone at the station who knows him told him.  More likely though he was just listening to the Fan and tweeted it immediately afterwards.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:15 PM

I actually enjoyed listening to Torts press conferences.....gonna miss those.

Almost nothing better than watching him deal with the media after a Rags loss. As much as he's a douche, he actually fun to watching during those press conferences.


I agree. I'm also bummed that I probably won't be able to dislike the next coach as much as I dislike him.

Still though he's great for a post game presser.

Fox Sports web site just posted a page full of presser clips from him. Great stuff.
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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:40 PM

I'm going to call Lundqvist to Tampa Bay 2014-2015


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