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#41 Daniel

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:48 PM

I'm going to call Lundqvist to Tampa Bay 2014-2015

 

FWIW, during the press conference, Sather mentioned that the goal is to sign Lunqvist to a long term extension.  So long as they show him the money, he's staying.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:50 PM

I'm going to call Lundqvist to Tampa Bay 2014-2015

There's a better chance Tampa signs me to be their next goalie than there is of Lundqvist going there.
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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:53 PM

Seems like the relationship between Lundqvist and Torts had something to do with this.  And it's not like Torts' teams were particularly great (having Lundqvist makes things a hell of a lot easier)...then again, it's not like his non-creative GM helps matters. 

 

It's funny, because some haters will point to Lundqvist's mediocre playoff record as a way of ripping him, but like Tri pointed out, the guy posted save%s of .931 and .934 in the last two playoff runs, and his team went 15-17.  He was the #1 reason the Rangers managed to play in 32 playoff games the past two seasons.

 

If this was a Lundqvist/Tortorella thing, the right guy won the battle.  But why the hell does Sather get to stay?  Why isn't that guy ever held accountable for anything?



FWIW, during the press conference, Sather mentioned that the goal is to sign Lunqvist to a long term extension.  So long as they show him the money, he's staying.

 

Admittedly, I'd be stunned if he ever left. 


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:58 PM

FWIW, during the press conference, Sather mentioned that the goal is to sign Lunqvist to a long term extension.  So long as they show him the money, he's staying.

 

So has said every GM before a prized free agent leaves town, including Lou "Status Quo" Lamoriello before Parise left, and the Thrashers before Kovy was traded.

 

I think getting rid of Tortorella was a step in the right direction for Sather to re-sign Lundqvist, it's definitely linked. But it's not guaranteed.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:58 PM

Seems like the relationship between Lundqvist and Torts had something to do with this. And it's not like Torts' teams were particularly great (having Lundqvist makes things a hell of a lot easier)...then again, it's not like his non-creative GM helps matters.

It's funny, because some haters will point to Lundqvist's mediocre playoff record as a way of ripping him, but like Tri pointed out, the guy posted save%s of .931 and .934 in the last two playoff runs, and his team went 15-17. He was the #1 reason the Rangers managed to play in 32 playoff games the past two seasons.

If this was a Lundqvist/Tortorella thing, the right guy won the battle. But why the hell does Sather get to stay? Why isn't that guy ever held accountable for anything?
FWIW, during the press conference, Sather mentioned that the goal is to sign Lunqvist to a long term extension. So long as they show him the money, he's staying.

Admittedly, I'd be stunned if he ever left.

Sather isn't held accountable because Dolan doesn't pay any attention to the Rangers and let's Sather run everything relating to hockey operations. This is why I hope Dolan owns the Garden for as long as he lives, preferably forever.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 02:06 PM

So has said every GM before a prized free agent leaves town, including Lou "Status Quo" Lamoriello before Parise left, and the Thrashers before Kovy was traded.

 

I think getting rid of Tortorella was a step in the right direction for Sather to re-sign Lundqvist, it's definitely linked. But it's not guaranteed.

 

Well Lou took virtually every reasonable effort to re-sign Parise, and Atlanta was prepared to give Kovalchuk $100 million over few years.  Now you have the new CBA which virtually guarantees that the Rangers won't get outbid money-wise. 



Sather isn't held accountable because Dolan doesn't pay any attention to the Rangers and let's Sather run everything relating to hockey operations. This is why I hope Dolan owns the Garden for as long as he lives, preferably forever.

 

I don't know whether Sather "demoted" himself, or whether it came from Dolan (I kind of doubt it), but I'm almost positive that Sather has basically ceded control of the draft, which, surprise, surprise, is an area that the Rangers have done pretty well at recently.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 02:06 PM

This is the worst news of the day.... I love Torts as the Rag$ coach.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 02:13 PM

Well Lou took virtually every reasonable effort to re-sign Parise, and Atlanta was prepared to give Kovalchuk $100 million over few years.  Now you have the new CBA which virtually guarantees that the Rangers won't get outbid money-wise. 



 

I don't know whether Sather "demoted" himself, or whether it came from Dolan (I kind of doubt it), but I'm almost positive that Sather has basically ceded control of the draft, which, surprise, surprise, is an area that the Rangers have done pretty well at recently.

 

Parise had a chance to go home, and I think Kovy was tired of his team being irrelevant for just about his entire career there.  Going home isn't going to be a factor for Lundqvist, and the Rangers HAVE been competitive for a while now.  If they get a coach that Lundqvist likes, I just can't see him leaving.  As far as destinations go in the NHL, MSG is clearly one of the "sexier" places to go as a FA...unless Lundqvist decides that he's flat-out sick of New York and playing for the Rangers, it seems like all the Rangers have to do is make him a "we don't want to lose you at any cost" kind of deal.  I don't think Lundqvist is going to make this that hard for them. 


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 02:20 PM

Replacement names that will be bandied about

 

Messier

 

Ruff

 

Ted Nolan

 

 

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 02:27 PM

Don't get that at all.  Torts has a lot to do with Lunqvist's recent success.



 

I would think that a shot blocking and collapse around the net strategy would help the goalie.

 

 

Why, the point of having a great goalie isn't to go all out to protect him.    That's something you'd do if Clemmer was your goalie.   And hell, we didn't even do that with Clemmer as our goalie, we just tried to keep the puck away from him.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 02:31 PM

As for Lundqvist I'd think it's possible he'd leave, but he's going to be 32 when he goes UFA.    I don't know what kind of deal he's going to be able to get.

Maybe shorter term/big money, but the top teams are going to have already spent themselves into oblivion by that point.    He'll probably be squeezed into staying there unless he just totally loses his mind and gets traded. 


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 02:35 PM

As for Lundqvist I'd think it's possible he'd leave, but he's going to be 32 when he goes UFA.    I don't know what kind of deal he's going to be able to get.

Maybe shorter term/big money, but the top teams are going to have already spent themselves into oblivion by that point.    He'll probably be squeezed into staying there unless he just totally loses his mind and gets traded. 

 

I don't think this is true.  There will always be a team willing to pay top dollar and that's the first year where the cap will expand again.  That said, I don't think he leaves, but he certainly could if he wanted to.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 02:45 PM

What would make Rag$ fans heads explode:  sign Lunqvuist as a UFA after Marty retires.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 02:50 PM

What would make Rag$ fans heads explode:  sign Lunqvuist as a UFA after Marty retires.

 

I always felt signing and rejuvenating Hugh Jessiman's career would be pretty satisfying.  It's about as likely as Lunqvist signing here. 


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 02:52 PM

wow this is big news... has to be because of Lundqvist.  

 

and speaking of... sure, Torts isn't bad, he stuck to his shot blocking style.  but i would still contribute most of his success to Lundqvist- if its one or the other the obvious choice is keeping Hank


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 03:20 PM

I don't think anyone can fault Torts for the crappy team he had to work with.  


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 03:43 PM

This is the worst news of the day.... I love Torts as the Rag$ coach.

I know.  How can this post season get any worse?


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 03:57 PM

Incarcerated Bob takes educated guesses. We were talking about Torts being fired weeks ago. There was a whole thread on it.  Bob just says 'confirmed' and people think he's a genius.



 

It would be a great move for them. I hope they don't hire him.

yep. Bob just throws sh!t at the wall. Something is bound to stick. He's still an idiot and crap source.


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