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#301 SterioDesign

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 04:59 PM

There's very few instances of a playoff team asking a player mid-season if he wants to stay, then trading him at the deadline if he doesn't.  That's what I was talking about when I said no one does this.  

 

And trading players who are going UFA in a year - that doesn't happen that often, although that's more common (Burns, Cammalleri, I think Tanguay, Staal, and plenty of others).  

 

Sure seems like given the leak about Letang being dealt that they are trying to use his desire to stay in Pittsburgh as leverage.

 

ah well thats not what i was suggestion or referring either really, like i said its more just like what shero is doing now, if he sense that there's no hope for Letang in Pittsburgh in the future its better to know it soon enough to play your cards the right way to get maximum return without hurting your team too much immediatly if you can.


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Posted 19 June 2013 - 05:05 PM

And again, that has its downsides, because the last time he did it, he got back Brandon Sutter for Jordan Staal, and Sutter sank under Staal's minutes.  I doubt he gets equal return for Letang either, which is a curious move to make when your two best players are right in their prime.


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Posted 19 June 2013 - 05:15 PM

And again, that has its downsides, because the last time he did it, he got back Brandon Sutter for Jordan Staal, and Sutter sank under Staal's minutes.  I doubt he gets equal return for Letang either, which is a curious move to make when your two best players are right in their prime.

 

of course but it's still better to get brandon sutter than watching staal walk the year after. god knows if they would have been able to sign a center able to play staal's minutes either. Plus it has his risk of not making a move and that the players get injured after and that he eventually walk the next season so you got fvcked all the way.

 

all im saying basically is not necessarely to make trades or move mid season but at least get a pulse of whats going on so you can have more options and calculate the risks


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Posted 19 June 2013 - 05:20 PM

of course but it's still better to get brandon sutter than watching staal walk the year after. god knows if they would have been able to sign a center able to play staal's minutes either. Plus it has his risk of not making a move and that the players get injured after and that he eventually walk the next season so you got fvcked all the way.

all im saying basically is not necessarely to make trades or move mid season but at least get a pulse of whats going on so you can have more options and calculate the risks

It's all about risk/reward. Staal is significantly better than Sutter. True, Staal was going to walk but you may be looking at another cup
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Posted 19 June 2013 - 05:24 PM

of course but it's still better to get brandon sutter than watching staal walk the year after. god knows if they would have been able to sign a center able to play staal's minutes either. Plus it has his risk of not making a move and that the players get injured after and that he eventually walk the next season so you got fvcked all the way.

 

all im saying basically is not necessarely to make trades or move mid season but at least get a pulse of whats going on so you can have more options and calculate the risks

 

And now, a Penguins defense which is already not great and for which there are no answers on the free agent market, will get worse if they deal him.  

 

It's shrewd to do it once, but keep doing it and you get diminishing returns.  And the Devils have kept plenty of players who they've gone to the last second with.


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Posted 19 June 2013 - 05:32 PM

It's all about risk/reward. Staal is significantly better than Sutter. True, Staal was going to walk but you may be looking at another cup

 

Staal was not gonna make a difference against Boston, maybe if they would have won a game at least but getting swept like that. a third line center won't make a difference that big. They had Malkin, Crosby, Neal, Kunitz, Dupuis, Morrow, Iginla... thats more firepower than you'd need.

 

I know Jordan's defensive play is good but that was not really the problem, the Pens lost cause they couldnt score mostly


And now, a Penguins defense which is already not great and for which there are no answers on the free agent market, will get worse if they deal him.  

 

It's shrewd to do it once, but keep doing it and you get diminishing returns.  And the Devils have kept plenty of players who they've gone to the last second with.

 

haha for a second i thought you were saying Letang was not great....

 

 

cause obviously that can't be what you meant........ right? 


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Posted 19 June 2013 - 05:32 PM

Staal was not gonna make a difference against Boston, maybe if they would have won a game at least but getting swept like that. a third line center won't make a difference that big. They had Malkin, Crosby, Neal, Kunitz, Dupuis, Morrow, Iginla... thats more firepower than you'd need.

I know Jordan's defensive play is good but that was not really the problem, the Pens lost cause they couldnt score mostly

He's still a much better goal scorer than Sutter and a superior special teams guy

And of the guys you listed only Crosby (who isn't 100%), Malkin, Neal and Kunitz are good

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 05:37 PM

It doesn't matter that Pittsburgh got swept or even that they got to the 3rd round, really.  They iced an inferior team on purpose.  They didn't have enough defense throughout that roster and they didn't drive play in the playoffs or regular season - real hard to win a Cup that way.  Staal would've definitely helped in that regard.


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Posted 19 June 2013 - 06:11 PM

A little off the current topic, but it looks like there is a decent (or any) effort on the Clarkson front.

 

via Craig Custance by RT from TG

"With free agency looming, Devils GM Lou Lamoriello still trying to get deal done with Clarkson. Didn't sound interested in trading rights."

 

 

 

I know Lou isn't the type to trade player's right at the draft


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Posted 19 June 2013 - 06:36 PM

Good i hope we can lock up clarkson i really do i just hope its for the right price.. I feel like clarky would be the type of guy that would be loyal to this team
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Posted 19 June 2013 - 06:57 PM

Interesting he-said-she-said. Friend works with a guy who went to school with Clarkson. And said Clarkson said he can't resign with the Devils because they can't afford him financially.

 

Grain of salts provided.


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Posted 19 June 2013 - 07:56 PM

I'm suprised it hasn't been mentioned or discussed here that Henrique is an RFA and how much he may seek in compensation.


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Posted 19 June 2013 - 10:13 PM

Whether or not Clarkson walks, Lou needs to sign a couple good players and stop nibbling at the edges by signing 3rd rate talent or over-the-hill has beens.


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Posted 20 June 2013 - 06:46 AM

Interesting he-said-she-said. Friend works with a guy who went to school with Clarkson. And said Clarkson said he can't resign with the Devils because they can't afford him financially.

Grain of salts provided.


Eh. That is from Clarksons perspective. May be the Devils actually are not willing to pay him what he thinks he is worth. I don't see the Devils not being able to spend money but they need to spend it wisely.
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Posted 20 June 2013 - 07:39 AM

Sure sounds like Clarkson is a goner.

 

I mean, stranger things have happened, but I'd be surprised if Clarkson is a Devil next year.


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Posted 20 June 2013 - 07:51 AM

Going to really suck if he is added to the list of lost free agents
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Posted 20 June 2013 - 08:20 AM

Going to really suck if he is added to the list of lost free agents

 

Depends on the ticket.


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Posted 20 June 2013 - 08:47 AM

when i say its going to really suck if he walks im not talking about the size of the contract he walks out on because we cant give him what he wants.. i mean its going to really suck losing a quality character player.. and who is going to replace him?
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Posted 20 June 2013 - 10:43 AM

Raffi Torres has re-signed with the Sharks.


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Posted 20 June 2013 - 10:54 AM

Enroth resigns in Buffalo 2yr/2.5 mill
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