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#541 ghdi

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 12:21 PM

Henrique getting 500K more than optimal deal is not a killer. I'm more concerned about the #s the older players are going to be getting. 


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 12:32 PM

Anisimov is arb eligible and that deal takes up some UFA years - no way Henrique gets that kind of money unless he's getting a 4 or 5 year deal


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 01:14 PM

Henrique getting 500K more than optimal deal is not a killer. I'm more concerned about the #s the older players are going to be getting. 

 

exactly, especially since were not even near the cap so theres rooms and its not like we have to suqeeze all those top players and that every 500k matters. It matters but for the owners pocket and thats it.


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 01:20 PM

exactly, especially since were not even near the cap so theres rooms and its not like we have to suqeeze all those top players and that every 500k matters. It matters but for the owners pocket and thats it.

 

And that might matter more than we'd like to acknowledge.  


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 01:56 PM

And that might matter more than we'd like to acknowledge.  

 

yeah thats the sh!tty part. With team able to spend to the cap and beyond in salary its not a problem for fans. It sucks no knowing the limits 


As per Larry Brooks, the Toronto Maple Leafs and Tampa Bay Lightning have discussed a trade that would send Vincent Lecavalier, who has seven years and $45 million remaining on his contract, along with another asset to the Maple Leafs.

 

interesting


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 02:11 PM

exactly, especially since were not even near the cap so theres rooms and its not like we have to suqeeze all those top players and that every 500k matters. It matters but for the owners pocket and thats it.

 

 If the team is on an internal budget, every dollar matters more, not less.  


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Posted 27 June 2013 - 07:35 AM

Kunitz re-signed for a 3.85m for 3 years. Thats a really good deal for what he can bring


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Posted 27 June 2013 - 07:50 AM

per RenLavoie

 

Just learn that the Lightning will buy out Vincent Lecavalier contract. #RDS

 

wow


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Posted 27 June 2013 - 07:50 AM

^^^ Beat me by seconds. Wow was my reaction as well!


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Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:02 AM

Now THAT is an interesting development...

 

Also, unrelated but also interesting, KHL apparently offered Bobrosky 10,000,000 (yes, that is correct) a year for multiple years.

 

http://en.rsport.ru/.../669811773.html

 

10m/year after a stellar 40 game season?  TAKE IT AND RUN BOB!


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Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:05 AM

Now THAT is an interesting development...
 
Also, unrelated but also interesting, KHL apparently offered Bobrosky 10,000,000 (yes, that is correct) a year for multiple years.
 
http://en.rsport.ru/.../669811773.html
 
10m/year after a stellar 40 game season?  TAKE IT AND RUN BOB!

That's tax free too I think. I could seriously see him taking that, that's a sh!t ton of money.
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Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:09 AM

Considering he'll get maybe 6.5m at the absolute most in the NHL, it seems like a no-brainer.  Sign with the KHL for however long they'll offer the tax-free dollars, and come back to live/play in NA (if he wants) afterwards.

 

Would suck for the CBJ though, but what're you going to do.


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Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:19 AM

Assistance required: Does a bought out player get the original money ON TOP of the new contract they sign? EX. Bryz is getting 1.6 mil for the next 14 years from philly, if he signs a new 3 mil contract does that mean he is getting 4.6 mil this year or is it 1.6 from philly and 1.4 from the new team? Thanks in advanced.


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Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:38 AM

Considering he'll get maybe 6.5m at the absolute most in the NHL, it seems like a no-brainer.  Sign with the KHL for however long they'll offer the tax-free dollars, and come back to live/play in NA (if he wants) afterwards.

 

Would suck for the CBJ though, but what're you going to do.

 

It's not a no-brainer - playing in Russia sucks, and if he left now, it'd be tough for him to come back to the NHL.  This is a guy who flew to the US to accept his Vezina trophy - I don't think he's leaving.

 

Assistance required: Does a bought out player get the original money ON TOP of the new contract they sign? EX. Bryz is getting 1.6 mil for the next 14 years from philly, if he signs a new 3 mil contract does that mean he is getting 4.6 mil this year or is it 1.6 from philly and 1.4 from the new team? Thanks in advanced.

 

Yes.  You get paid by the old team regardless of what happens with your new one (or whether you find a new one).  It means these guys have the financial security to choose where they want to play and take a little less if it means going where they really want.


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Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:40 AM

Considering he'll get maybe 6.5m at the absolute most in the NHL, it seems like a no-brainer.  Sign with the KHL for however long they'll offer the tax-free dollars, and come back to live/play in NA (if he wants) afterwards.

 

Would suck for the CBJ though, but what're you going to do.

 

You could say that for pretty much any KHL player. They're always going to make more there, Bob aside. Yet nobody goes but Radulov.

 

And like Tri said, playing in Russia's awful. Who would go back there esp after the Lokomotiv stuff and Cherepanov stuff. It's not exactly safe there


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Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:41 AM

Assistance required: Does a bought out player get the original money ON TOP of the new contract they sign? EX. Bryz is getting 1.6 mil for the next 14 years from philly, if he signs a new 3 mil contract does that mean he is getting 4.6 mil this year or is it 1.6 from philly and 1.4 from the new team? Thanks in advanced.

 

Yes, which is why in a case like Gomez, the player might sign for a pretty low contract, relatively speaking. When they announced this whole buyout stuff last year, and the trade deadline came and went without any significant moves by Lou, I realized that Lou was going to wait to pick up some of these buyouts.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Lou takes a run at a Briere or Lecavelier for a discount. They've been in the league long enough to know what the Devils organization (and Lou) is all about..


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Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:46 AM

Which is why Lou needs to get on the phone with Bryz, Briere and now Lecav. :P


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Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:50 AM

It might indeed 'suck' to play in Russia, but I mean...unless he's one of those "cup or bust" guys who's fueled by a chance to win the cup..we're talking about a 4m/year difference between here and there.

 

4 million dollars.  That's more than most players will ever make per year.  And I don't buy the 'it's difficult to come back'.  Maybe he'll burn his bridges in CBJ, but it's do-able.  If he plays well in Russia, someone will want him back. 


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Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:52 AM

It might indeed 'suck' to play in Russia, but I mean...unless he's one of those "cup or bust" guys who's fueled by a chance to win the cup..we're talking about a 4m/year difference between here and there.

 

4 million dollars.  That's more than most players will ever make per year.  And I don't buy the 'it's difficult to come back'.  Maybe he'll burn his bridges in CBJ, but it's do-able.  If he plays well in Russia, someone will want him back. 

 

Other players have had the same opportunity and only one's taken it. Why would he be teh 2nd? There's no reason to think he will be. He could've made a ton in Russia but instead played on a cheap ELC


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Posted 27 June 2013 - 09:00 AM

It might indeed 'suck' to play in Russia, but I mean...unless he's one of those "cup or bust" guys who's fueled by a chance to win the cup..we're talking about a 4m/year difference between here and there.

 

It's way more money than that, because the money in Russia is tax-free.  Everything else about Russia besides 'It's where you grew up' and 'They're offering you loads of money' stinks.  The amenities are worse.  The contracts aren't guaranteed.  The travel is horrible.  Some of the lower-end franchises don't draw - and when I mean don't draw, they have 5,000 seat arenas and don't sell out.  It's a second-rate league.  It's not about the Cup - it's about playing against the best players in the world.

 

 

4 million dollars.  That's more than most players will ever make per year.  And I don't buy the 'it's difficult to come back'.  Maybe he'll burn his bridges in CBJ, but it's do-able.  If he plays well in Russia, someone will want him back.

 

He's been playing in the KHL, how does anyone have any guarantee he's still any good?  If he wants top dollar to come back it will be hard to find it. 


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