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#601 DJ Eco

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 10:42 AM

Rumor is that Bettman is allowing the Penguins to be 10 mil over the cap for the next 7 years.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 10:59 AM

if they trade they might take a little step back in term of their D but then they'd have about 3m more on the cap to play with and 4m more for the other years that he would have signed.

 

i still see it as a step back obviously but to me it's better a step back for one season (where god knows, he could have had a bad season or being injured, he was also terrible in the playoffs) but at least they'd get a good return that could help them for years instead of letting him walk for nothing.

 

Unless they really heist someone with this deal, It's a step back for many seasons.  The Penguins just cannot go out and replace Kris Letang on the free agent market, players like that almost never come available.  They'll just waste James Neal's prime dithering around with mediocre talent on the backend.


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Posted 28 June 2013 - 06:08 PM

Unless they really heist someone with this deal, It's a step back for many seasons.  The Penguins just cannot go out and replace Kris Letang on the free agent market, players like that almost never come available.  They'll just waste James Neal's prime dithering around with mediocre talent on the backend.

 

Well if they are gonna lose him anyway in one season cause they can't afford him. Thats the thing, you have one year to make it worth if he stays, then if you're not the team lifting the cup. You lost your gamble and you lose him for nothing. Now thats a major stepback.


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Posted 28 June 2013 - 07:25 PM

interview with Lou here talking about free agency

 

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 08:19 PM

Well if they are gonna lose him anyway in one season cause they can't afford him. Thats the thing, you have one year to make it worth if he stays, then if you're not the team lifting the cup. You lost your gamble and you lose him for nothing. Now thats a major stepback.

 

They could keep him and use the extra year for leverage.   Depends what their long term budget is for him.   If it's high enough he'll need someone to kick in a huge deal to beat it in 7.


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Posted 28 June 2013 - 09:14 PM

They could keep him and use the extra year for leverage.   Depends what their long term budget is for him.   If it's high enough he'll need someone to kick in a huge deal to beat it in 7.

 

i dont think the Pens would gain leverage by waiting til next season. If they are forced to trade him his trade value would have decreased drastically. 

 

at least based on Letang's decision about that contract before the draft. Shero will know if it's impossible to keep him long term and he'll be able to make moves and still be in control. 

 

If he accept well thats that. They'll be in cap hell and if their 3 top paid players doesnt show up in the playoffs like they did against Boston. Well good for us. All they'll be able to afford is cheap supporting role players.

 

if he doesnt well Shero has options, he could move him at the draft and get a really good return if he thinks its worth it. And thats the thing, he has control of the situation.

 

And well you can never guess what could happen, a team could be about to pick Jones... then the phone rings... Most of those bottom teams have cap space to take Letang long term and they want to win now, so they could think getting a Norris caliber player in his prime NOW for Jones is the way to go for the right offer i dont think its impossible to see a Letang for Jones pick plus wtv pieces needed to be sent on each side to sweeten the deal considering he'd be a UFA next summer. it doesnt even have to make sense actually lol we all seen crazy deals where GM got rapped hardcore. 


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Posted 29 June 2013 - 09:35 AM

i dont think the Pens would gain leverage by waiting til next season. If they are forced to trade him his trade value would have decreased drastically. 

 

at least based on Letang's decision about that contract before the draft. Shero will know if it's impossible to keep him long term and he'll be able to make moves and still be in control. 

 

If he accept well thats that. They'll be in cap hell and if their 3 top paid players doesnt show up in the playoffs like they did against Boston. Well good for us. All they'll be able to afford is cheap supporting role players.

 

if he doesnt well Shero has options, he could move him at the draft and get a really good return if he thinks its worth it. And thats the thing, he has control of the situation.

 

And well you can never guess what could happen, a team could be about to pick Jones... then the phone rings... Most of those bottom teams have cap space to take Letang long term and they want to win now, so they could think getting a Norris caliber player in his prime NOW for Jones is the way to go for the right offer i dont think its impossible to see a Letang for Jones pick plus wtv pieces needed to be sent on each side to sweeten the deal considering he'd be a UFA next summer. it doesnt even have to make sense actually lol we all seen crazy deals where GM got rapped hardcore. 

I think he's saying they'll have leverage in negotiating with Letang, not in trading him. Because time is on his side now, Letang can ask for more and hold out. When it gets down to the line, Letang will have to choose, do I want to move somewhere else for likely less years and less $$ or do I want to stay in Pitt? At that point, with the ability to offer 8 years to Letang, Pitt should have the upper hand.

I must also note, Letang isn't Norris caliber, he just puts up enough points to be in the discussion for whatever the hell they give that award out for nowadays.


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Posted 29 June 2013 - 10:25 AM

TSNBobMcKenzie: NJ's David Clarkson expects going to UFA July 5 unless Devils make an offer substantial enough to alter that. Hasn't seen any #s yet from NJ
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Posted 29 June 2013 - 10:33 AM

Clarkson can go ahead and get overpaid somewhere else.

Elias can be paid a kings ransom and I would be fine with that.

Yeah I am biased but I don't give a sh!t.
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Posted 29 June 2013 - 10:47 AM

TSNBobMcKenzie: NJ's David Clarkson expects going to UFA July 5 unless Devils make an offer substantial enough to alter that. Hasn't seen any #s yet from NJ

ohh man definently not happy to hear this.. but i guess it was to be expected
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Posted 29 June 2013 - 10:59 AM

Lou didn't seem really thrilled having the Draft at Pru Center.


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Posted 29 June 2013 - 11:05 AM

Lou didn't seem really thrilled having the Draft at Pru Center.

 

He's worried people will get curious and discover where he hid the bodies.


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Posted 29 June 2013 - 11:31 AM

I kind of accepted that Clarkson and Elias are going to be leaving this year


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Posted 29 June 2013 - 11:36 AM

Id at least hope Lou would give it the old college try and present Clarkson with some kind of number before just letting him walk. Im probably one of the few that value clarkson over elias right now on this forum. Of course im thinking long term here. Love elias but tn, clarkson is more important to the team in the long run.
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Posted 29 June 2013 - 11:37 AM

I think he's saying they'll have leverage in negotiating with Letang, not in trading him. Because time is on his side now, Letang can ask for more and hold out. When it gets down to the line, Letang will have to choose, do I want to move somewhere else for likely less years and less $$ or do I want to stay in Pitt? At that point, with the ability to offer 8 years to Letang, Pitt should have the upper hand.

I must also note, Letang isn't Norris caliber, he just puts up enough points to be in the discussion for whatever the hell they give that award out for nowadays.

 

ah ok from Letang's side he meant. kk.

 

i dont agree though Letang is a really really good player, if he'd be in NJ some here would want a statue of him i can assure you. The only knock is that he's a Pens for most.

 

on a side note Tyler Seguin is on the block? wow. Per Ren Lavoie who's really reliable. I'd kill to have Seguin eventhough he's a douchebag


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Posted 29 June 2013 - 11:43 AM

I'd give up Larsson for Seguin
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Posted 29 June 2013 - 11:51 AM

I'd give up Larsson for Seguin

 

me too big time


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Posted 29 June 2013 - 11:58 AM

McKenzie saying Horton won't be back with the Bruins and reiterates the Seguin rumors. Could Boston be trading up to land Jones? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
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Posted 29 June 2013 - 11:59 AM

so apparently those guys would be on the block if the right deal is in place.

 

Seguin, Perron, Plekanec, Cammalleri, Ryan, Vanek, Gagner, Hemsky, Versteeg, E Kane, Gardiner, Del Zotto.

 

in order of who i'd wanted

 

Seguin

E Kane

Vanek

Ryan

Plekanec

Perron

Hemsky

Gagner

Gardiner

Del Zotto

Veersteeg

Cammalleri

 

our lack of depth + financial situation is pissing me off so bad though, with the names out there we absolutely don't have the pieces and money to make a big move without having to take near major step back. Some other teams (stronger than us too) can afford it without skipping a beat or not a big one. What a bad timing godamnit


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Posted 29 June 2013 - 12:21 PM

I'd kill to get Evander Kane on this team.


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