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#1 DevilMinder

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 07:12 PM

Appears we are stuck with the current defense Corp. http://bit.ly/197GYPp
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Posted 20 June 2013 - 07:22 PM

I'd paste in Lou's quote but the paste feature is instead just making my text smaller for some reason. :lol:

Anyway, Lou said the Devils don't plan on using the buyouts at this point but doesn't rule it out going forward.

 

Some things that may matter for that, trade market and potential cash infusion from a new minority owner.

 

On the possibility of using any of the team’s two compliance buyouts (each team gets two total over the next two offseasons) this year. (The first buyout window opens 48 hours after the last game of the Stanley Cup Finals):

 

“We have no intention at this point, but that doesn’t mean we won’t. There’s a lot of things that come into play whether we will or whether we won’t.”

 

- See more at: http://blogs.northje...h.UBc39G99.dpuf

 

 
Ok, it pasted it so I couldn't see it and made my text smaller. :lol: But there's your quote.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 07:23 PM

i think there's still chances that buying out a player could help us making room for someone else but if we're on a budget i'd be surprise.... sigh..... why couldnt Zach bring Salvador with him in Minny


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Posted 20 June 2013 - 07:27 PM

So we may, we may not. Nothing really new there.
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Posted 20 June 2013 - 07:33 PM

If anyone is familiar with Louspeak he's basically saying, "We can, but you know damn well we won't. Plus we're signing Tallinder, Volchenkov and Salvador to extensions. Also, we have no intention of retaining Clarkson. Tedenby is taking his spot next season."


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Posted 20 June 2013 - 07:46 PM

I don't think using a buyout makes sense, so I'm fine with this.


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Posted 20 June 2013 - 09:00 PM

stuck with volch and moose.... greattt
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Posted 20 June 2013 - 09:50 PM

You can't use a compliance buyout on Moose, it's a total waste of time.   If you get a special cap-free buyout, you don't use it on someone who gets paid $1.5M or whatever it is.


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Posted 20 June 2013 - 09:52 PM

excuse me max
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Posted 20 June 2013 - 10:23 PM

You can't use a compliance buyout on Moose, it's a total waste of time.   If you get a special cap-free buyout, you don't use it on someone who gets paid $1.5M or whatever it is.

 

Trouble is buying him out the regular way doesn't save you money on the cap because he's a 35+, but I agree it shouldn't matter much.


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Posted 20 June 2013 - 10:42 PM

the only guy i want bought out is hedberg


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Posted 20 June 2013 - 11:07 PM

If we had the financial means to buy out a contract we probably would but that won't be happening any time soon.


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 12:24 AM

I'm not surprised at this news at all. I was hopeful that we'd potentially use on on Volchenkov or Sal, but I figured it was unrealistic. I also am hopeful that Anton at least can start playing better. We don't have any other D-men that can crunch people like he can. I don't have a lot of faith in Salvador right now at all. 


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 07:26 AM

Having Moose as the backup is worrisome.  

Not that there is necessarily a better internal option, but I really don't want to see the 90 year old tandem again.


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 08:10 AM

I'm not surprised at this news at all. I was hopeful that we'd potentially use on on Volchenkov or Sal, but I figured it was unrealistic. I also am hopeful that Anton at least can start playing better. We don't have any other D-men that can crunch people like he can. I don't have a lot of faith in Salvador right now at all.

i dont have much faith in Salvador at all.. He was every bit of horrible this past season.. And he's getting up there in age now.. His play isn't going to get much better if any... And they give him the captaincy of the team... No words for that..i understand when they make that decision its based off of leadership but they say he isn't a big voice in the locker room that he leads by example... Alot of great plays weve had the pleasure of seeing him make this year.
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Posted 21 June 2013 - 08:23 AM

If we had the financial means to buy out a contract we probably would but that won't be happening any time soon.

 

Buying out most contracts would save money, not cost it.  And it would save money right up front too - buying out Volchenkov's contract saves nearly $3M this year.  Putting a player in internally to replace him means the total savings would be around $2M this year.


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 08:38 AM

I don't think using a buyout makes sense, so I'm fine with this.

 

 

Buying out most contracts would save money, not cost it.  And it would save money right up front too - buying out Volchenkov's contract saves nearly $3M this year.  Putting a player in internally to replace him means the total savings would be around $2M this year.

 

Am I missing something here?  Your 2nd post is what I agree with, but you think it doesn't make sense to throw a roster spot up in the air and let one of our young guys fight for it?


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:33 AM

Am I missing something here?  Your 2nd post is what I agree with, but you think it doesn't make sense to throw a roster spot up in the air and let one of our young guys fight for it?

It seems you are confused from my understanding.    They are two different points in a related topic.

 

1) Our team does not need the cap space right now, so buying someone out doesn't really do anything for us other than jettison them out ~if~ we want to free up the roster spot.   We aren't in the Flyers boat where they ~have~ to clear cap space for next year.      

 

2) If we choose to buy someone out - the argument that we can't because we lack the financial strength to is invalid.  This is because we actually save money immediately this season by saving money on salary and potentially replacing that player with a cheaper contract.    This is not a reflection that our current personnel are weaker (or stronger) than our prospects, it's strictly a financial reflection. 


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:39 AM

It seems you are confused from my understanding.    They are two different points in a related topic.

 

 

1) Our team does not need the cap space right now, so buying someone out doesn't really do anything for us other than jettison them out ~if~ we want to free up the roster spot.   We aren't in the Flyers boat where they ~have~ to clear cap space for next year.      

 

2) If we choose to buy someone out - the argument that we can't because we lack the financial strength to is invalid.  This is because we actually save money immediately this season by saving money on salary and potentially replacing that player with a cheaper contract.    This is not a reflection that our current personnel are weaker (or stronger) than our prospects, it's strictly a financial reflection.

 

I was in the middle of replying, but yeah -

 

In addition, I do think the Devils can make a trade involving Tallinder or Fayne if they see fit.  They'd probably have to pick up some money on Tallinder's contract (ridiculously, but like the NHL is gonna see the value in a foreign player who doesn't hit), but I think he'd find a home.


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:41 AM

i'd really really really want to buy out Volchenkov or Salvador


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