Posted 01 July 2013 - 11:31 AM
Or the Marty that actually, you know, won more games.
And wins above replacement in any sport is the most ridiculous stat that people are trying to come up with to get in on the next new thing. It's an inherently unknowable number, and hence useless.
In fairness, wins aren't really the best way to judge goalies. Goalies are always going to see their win totals boosted by being on a good team, and hurt by playing on a bad one. Just ask Chico Resch. His Islander and Rocky/Devil numbers were night-and-day...if he hadn't gotten traded to the Flyers, he probably retires with a losing record. If you're playing on a flat-out sh!tty team, you're going to be hard-pressed to win much more than 15-20 games, and there's not a thing even the best goalie on the planet can do about it. And though Marty won 42 regular season games and 15 playoff games in 2000-2001, he really wasn't that great that year. .906 regular season save% and .897 playoff save%, and he looked much shakier overall that season than any other that I can remember, as far as his prime years go.
Tri seems to be arguing that, with the exception of his current contract, Marty hasn't always represented good value, which I disagree with. And we know how it can go with the big stars who get signed to the long-term deals when they're in the second half of their primes. Tri is coming off like Marty should have been vintage Marty for all six years of that deal to be anything more than a begrudging success. I don't know how anyone could have or should have expected anything more than what they got over the course of that contract...simple logic dictated that there was almost no chance Marty would be the same player by the end of the deal...geez, all things considered, 2012 was really not that bad at all...from 2/2 on he was about as good as could be expected.
Think about it...how many of those deals become disasters before the contract is even a couple of years old? With MANY seasons left to go?
Edited by Colorado Rockies 1976, 01 July 2013 - 11:33 AM.
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