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#21 2ELIAS6

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 12:54 PM

everything on clarkson is nothing more then a bunch of assumptions.. no one here knows clarkson so with out speaking to the guy you have no idea how he feels or whats going threw his mind.. with out anything really being leaked no one knows lou either so we have absolutely zero idea of what has been offered to him.. all lou has said is that hes been working hard to re sign our ufa's thats it.. no one knows what the leafs real intentions are or if they even want clarkson as bad as to be speculated.. until some real news comes about we know nothing more then a bunch of rumors/speculations/assumptions. At this point it does seem clear that he will most likely go to free agency maybe even if his intentions are to stay here he is one of the top ufa's on the market he would be a shmuck if he did not go to free agency july 5th and see what his actual worth is.
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Posted 01 July 2013 - 01:01 PM

I mean, I'd probably do Tallinder-Gelinas-Hedberg for Grabner.  Not sure they would, but Grabner would be a great fit on the 3rd line.

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 01:06 PM

everything on clarkson is nothing more then a bunch of assumptions.. no one here knows clarkson so with out speaking to the guy you have no idea how he feels or whats going threw his mind.. with out anything really being leaked no one knows lou either so we have absolutely zero idea of what has been offered to him.. all lou has said is that hes been working hard to re sign our ufa's thats it.. no one knows what the leafs real intentions are or if they even want clarkson as bad as to be speculated.. until some real news comes about we know nothing more then a bunch of rumors/speculations/assumptions. At this point it does seem clear that he will most likely go to free agency maybe even if his intentions are to stay here he is one of the top ufa's on the market he would be a shmuck if he did not go to free agency july 5th and see what his actual worth is.

 

Both Clarkson's and the Devils' camp have stated that the Devils have not offered anything in terms of actual salary numbers.  It has nothing to do with being a mind reader. 


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 01:09 PM

Both Clarkson's and the Devils' camp have stated that the Devils have not offered anything in terms of actual salary numbers.  It has nothing to do with being a mind reader.

makes me think.. if the devils dont want to lose one of their players why would they still have gone this long with out trying to offer some type of a deal
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Posted 01 July 2013 - 01:11 PM

Both Clarkson's and the Devils' camp have stated that the Devils have not offered anything in terms of actual salary numbers.  It has nothing to do with being a mind reader. 

 

This exactly. There have been no offers.

 

They are going to see what Clarkson commands on the open market. With buyouts and a falling cap, there's a chance that the money won't be out there to drive up a bidding war for Clarkson, meaning his chance of re-signing here for a reasonable price is higher. It's almost as if Lou knows what he's doing.


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 01:15 PM

This exactly. There have been no offers.
 
They are going to see what Clarkson commands on the open market. With buyouts and a falling cap, there's a chance that the money won't be out there to drive up a bidding war for Clarkson, meaning his chance of re-signing here for a reasonable price is higher. It's almost as if Lou knows what he's doing.

ahh i understand better now. Finally some logical thoughts
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Posted 01 July 2013 - 01:15 PM

It's almost as if Lou knows what he's doing.

 

Bullsh!t!

 

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 01:17 PM

I wouldn't mind taking a flier on Magnus Paajarvi. I believe he has excellent potential to be Grabner type 3rd liner.


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 01:25 PM

I wouldn't mind taking a flier on Magnus Paajarvi. I believe he has excellent potential to be Grabner type 3rd liner.

I would love that, but the Oilers aren't parting with him for peanuts.


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 01:26 PM

Before the season ended, I had hopes of Stalberg and Raymond filling holes in the Devils' lineup. I still think they would be decent acquisitions, but they aren't "goal scorers" in the traditional sense. Stalberg can produce but I see him as more of a Zubrus player (thought he'd be signed of Zubie walked). I like Raymond's speed, and he can score at times too, but from what I've seen (albeit limited amounts) he doesn't have the same puck possession skills as Stalberg.

 

Ryder fits the bill of a more traditional scoring forward, but I imagine he'll have a number of suitors.

 

 

Long way of saying I'd be thrilled and over the moon if the Devils acquired one of Stalberg or Raymond, and made a move to bolster offense via trading a defender. My favorite pipe dream is acquiring Jamie McGinn from Colorado. Flip a defender + prospect to Colorado for McGinn, take back a bad contract like Greg Zanon and buy him out (Trent Hunter style), and head into the season with a mega-shooter on the wing.


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 01:36 PM

I wouldn't mind taking a flier on Magnus Paajarvi. I believe he has excellent potential to be Grabner type 3rd liner.

 

too bad MacT's running the show there and doesn't seem nearly stupid enough to just give him away


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 01:40 PM

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Devils would like to see Cory Schneider signed beyond his 2 remaining yrs, but extension talk can't begin until there is only 1 yr left. I love hearing there's a sense of urgency here from Lou. I'm hoping we lock Schneider up before the start of next season.
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Posted 01 July 2013 - 01:44 PM

that grabner trade is intriguing.

 

would still prefer to sign briere and stalberg.

 

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 01:50 PM

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Devils would like to see Cory Schneider signed beyond his 2 remaining yrs, but extension talk can't begin until there is only 1 yr left. I love hearing there's a sense of urgency here from Lou. I'm hoping we lock Schneider up before the start of next season.

 

I hope so too. Hopefully he gets the starting role this year in whatever way, otherwise I dunno why he'd re-sign here


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 01:55 PM

Salary commitments are likely to be an issue.  Right now the Devils have $50M in salary committed counting Dainius Zubrus.  To me they're going to be capped around $60M.  I think they subtract Hedberg somehow - if it's via buyout, that's a $1M or so discount this year.  I think they trade a defenseman, that's $3M or so.  But I don't see many other sources of savings.  Figure between $5M and $6M for Elias, that leaves $8-9M for Josefson/Henrique + other possible upgrades - that's not a lot of money.


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 01:55 PM

I don't get why everyone wants Horton so bad. He is David Clarkson, why not be loyal to a guy who's given us his all as long as he's been here. And I bet Clarky's price tag is much cheaper. If we lose out on Clarky, I'd like to see us replace him with double the skill.

because Horton is much better than Clarkson. They play the same way but Horton is much more effective and has way better hockey sense.
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Posted 01 July 2013 - 01:57 PM

Salary commitments are likely to be an issue.  Right now the Devils have $50M in salary committed counting Dainius Zubrus.  To me they're going to be capped around $60M.  I think they subtract Hedberg somehow - if it's via buyout, that's a $1M or so discount this year.  I think they trade a defenseman, that's $3M or so.  But I don't see many other sources of savings.  Figure between $5M and $6M for Elias, that leaves $8-9M for Josefson/Henrique + other possible upgrades - that's not a lot of money.

 

It's kind of ugly when you think about it because outside of Kovy and Elias, we have no goal scores... and Kovy has become a defensive forward


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 02:01 PM

A lot of our money is tied up on average D. That and the fact that we have a log jam at defense which is preventing our youth from making the jump to the NHL makes it even more dire that we move a defensemen. Idk if it will happen, but it's painfully obvious that we need to.
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Posted 01 July 2013 - 02:06 PM

Tallinder, Fayne, Gelinas, Santini, Scarlett or Urbom can be traded for a young forward (Hemsky)

If we're getting a more established young player, Merrill or Severson (Pajaarvi)

If we're getting a Seguin type, Larsson.

Look at all that talent right there

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 02:18 PM

OK -- I think I can relax now - we're all thinking along the same lines.  No one wants to go nuts with a flashy scorer. The board hasn't been this realistic or down to earth on the whole in eons!

 

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