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#1 Triumph

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 11:20 AM

Okay, we've got Elias supposedly on the verge of re-signing and Zubrus has confirmed he's re-signed.  Peter Harrold is also thought to be re-signed.  I'm going to assume that all the RFAs will be re-signed except D'Agostini, leaving us with this team for next year:

 

Henrique-Loktionov-Kovalchuk

Elias-Zajac-?

Zubrus-Josefson-?

Carter-Gionta-Bernier

 

ex:  Tedenby, Barch

 

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ex:  Harrold

 

Schneider

Brodeur

 

I'm judging, perhaps incorrectly, that the lack of scuttlebutt on either Clarkson or Zidlicky means they are gone.  Zidlicky's agent was described to have had a 'brief conversation' with Lou, haven't heard anything on that front since.  Clarkson claims he hasn't gotten a contract offer.

 

FORWARDS:

 

Like I said in the Clarkson thread, the Devils desperately need shooters.  They just didn't generate enough shots last year as a team.  If Clarkson leaves, that also leaves a big shooting hole to fill.  Here's the top 20 available free agent players by shots/60 at even strength over the last 3 years (I am not saying this is a ranking of the best offensive players):

 

Viktor Stalberg:  10.60

Dan Cleary:  9.51

Chad Larose:  9.32

Pascal Dupuis:  9.28

Mason Raymond:  9.28

Daniel Briere:  8.84

Simon Gagne:  8.23

Nathan Horton:  8.22

Michael Ryder:  7.95

Dustin Penner:  7.86

Mike Santorelli:  7.85

Benoit Pouliot:  7.79

Vincent Lecavalier:  7.61

Ryane Clowe:  7.60

Blake Comeau:  7.32

Alexei Ponikarovsky:  7.26

Antti Miettinen:  7.20

Ryan Jones:  7.15

Pierre-Marc Bouchard:  7.11

Brad Boyes:  6.79

 

Okay, that's enough of that.  A good list, though.  I still wonder if Montreal might not be interested in dealing Brian Gionta, who would rank 2nd on this list and would seem a very natural fit with Elias and Zajac.  Trouble is outside of Briere, I don't see a ton of help here in the shots department.  I like Michael Ryder okay, but that's about as far as it goes.  Jagr doesn't make the list, but I still have interest in him.

 

DEFENSE

 

I still think Tallinder's days here are numbered, but unfortunately Lou will have retain salary in a deal to move him, I imagine.  We'll see what open defense spots there are around the league.  Buffalo certainly has a gaping maw at that spot, so we'll see if they've got interest in Tallinder.  I still think Volchenkov could move but it would have to be for an awful salary back.  I could see a surprising PP QB type acquisition too.

 

GOALTENDING

 

So, let's see, who are the available free agent goalies?  Who might be available in trade?  Oh wait, I shouldn't have to care about this for 2 years and hopefully more.  I hope they can deal Hedberg if he's open to it.


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 11:43 AM

Seems fair to assume that Clarkson and/or Zidlicky are on their way out.

 

Would rather not go to the ex-Devil well yet again in Gionta.  Hard to believe the guy is 34 years old already. 

 

I'm guessing the only teams that would even think about bringing Hedberg in are ones well below the floor.  He was SO bad last season. 


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 11:56 AM

Seems fair to assume that Clarkson and/or Zidlicky are on their way out.

 

Would rather not go to the ex-Devil well yet again in Gionta.  Hard to believe the guy is 34 years old already. 

 

I'm guessing the only teams that would even think about bringing Hedberg are ones well below the floor.  He was SO bad last season. 

 

I suppose you could gauge the Isles interest.  They're a floor team that needs two goalies, and Hedberg might be wililng to waive his NTC to play not too far away from home.  Perhaps a package that includes Tallinder and Hedberg.   


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 12:07 PM

I suppose you could gauge the Isles interest.  They're a floor team that needs two goalies, and Hedberg might be wililng to waive his NTC to play not too far away from home.  Perhaps a package that includes Tallinder and Hedberg.   

 

I mean, I'd probably do Tallinder-Gelinas-Hedberg for Grabner.  Not sure they would, but Grabner would be a great fit on the 3rd line.


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 12:08 PM

I don't see anyone trading for Hedberg


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 12:11 PM

I mean, I'd probably do Tallinder-Gelinas-Hedberg for Grabner.  Not sure they would, but Grabner would be a great fit on the 3rd line.

 

 

I mean who wouldn't want that speed on their team...  This is a bit of a fantasy, but hey we can dream.

 

Kovy and Grabner on the PK...wow


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 12:12 PM

I still think we will sign one FA Briere or weiss.... maybe two but i have a feeling stefan matteau will take the clarkson role for 4 million less 


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 12:13 PM

I mean, I'd probably do Tallinder-Gelinas-Hedberg for Grabner.  Not sure they would, but Grabner would be a great fit on the 3rd line.

 

I can't imagine the Isles would ever go for that.  Maybe if you substitute Merrill for Gelinas, but that probably doesn't work either.


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 12:13 PM

I mean who wouldn't want that speed on their team...  This is a bit of a fantasy, but hey we can dream.

 

Kovy and Grabner on the PK...wow

 

He only played 12 minutes a game in the playoffs.  His high salary years are coming up where his salary is above his cap hit, which the Islanders tend not to like - I think he'll be on the move soon.


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 12:13 PM

I still think we will sign one FA Briere or weiss.... maybe two but i have a feeling stefan matteau will take the clarkson role for 4 million less 

It is reported like 10 teams interested in Briere

 

That does not sound like a Lou situation

 

Have we ever signed an ex-Flyer?


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 12:15 PM

It is reported like 10 teams interested in Briere

 

That does not sound like a Lou situation

 

Have we ever signed an ex-Flyer?

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 12:18 PM

It is reported like 10 teams interested in Briere

 

That does not sound like a Lou situation

 

Have we ever signed an ex-Flyer?

 

Dan McGillas.


He only played 12 minutes a game in the playoffs.  His high salary years are coming up where his salary is above his cap hit, which the Islanders tend not to like - I think he'll be on the move soon.

 

Perhaps, but they wouldn't trade him to a division rival if the return isn't that high.


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 12:19 PM

Dan McGillas.

 

 

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 12:22 PM

It is reported like 10 teams interested in Briere

 

That does not sound like a Lou situation

 

Have we ever signed an ex-Flyer?

 

Yeah but he's quoted as saying he doesn't want to go far from home, which probably eliminates a good bit of those teams right off the bat.  His last couple of years seemed like they were pretty rough...admittedly I wasn't watching every one of his games, but the numbers don't look good.


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 12:23 PM

 

Henrique-Loktionov-Kovalchuk

Elias-Zajac-?

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ex:  Tedenby, Barch

 

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ex:  Harrold

 

Schneider

Brodeur

 

I'd expect to see some kids up here too...


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 12:24 PM

i cant imagine anyone really wanting to trade for moose.. the guy has one year left to go and his performance last year was every bit of horrible... granted he was forced into a role he couldnt handle.. he has not been good
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Posted 01 July 2013 - 12:27 PM

Well if Briere wants to keep the kids in South Jersey and still see them this season it makes the Devils more attractive to him for sure
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Posted 01 July 2013 - 12:30 PM

i dont know all that much about briere but i have been reading every where that he has noticeably dropped off ... is this someone we really wana have over here?
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Posted 01 July 2013 - 12:44 PM

in a perfect world we'd sign a guy so thats just "adding" production and not trading to get something cause im a firm believer that after losing zach and clarkson (lets say) i know it takes time to replace those guys but you dont replace both by signing Brière and call it a day.

 

First im super pumped about getting schneider. Thats a huge monkey off our back for the future and its stabilizing something that could off scared away some UFAs imo.

 

I'd really like Mason, always liked him, he's fast and can score. Not even by looking at numbers its based on me watching him play and liking what he does. So good to see that numbers are supporting that. PLUS, he pretty young near his prime. I'd really like to see the Devils set themselves for awhile and have a good chunk of the team that you know will be there for awhile. Patching holes with old guys every 1-2 years is not helping that much eventhough thats the cheapest way to go of course.

 

For all we know we could re-sign Clarkson though, Toronto seems to be aggressive on other UFAs so maybe they won't even put an offer for him and like i said to me for Clarky it's either NJ or Toronto... i don't like him at all but i'd still want him on the team if we can't sign at least 2 good free agents.

 

All im really hoping is that somehow Lou is allowed to spend to the cap. I don't know much about the financial sh!t but here's a very educated comments who could be totally retarded since i dont know... but to me i think its worth to throw an extra 5-6m to a guy who could help the team to make the playoffs this year even though it may be a little sacrifice somewhere, then you'll likely get that money back. (of course you have to commit to more than 5-6m on a deal but since we may be selling and adding partners it shouldnt be a problem next season). Making the playoffs is a must next season. we'll need the money its bringing and giving up a top pick would be disastrous.


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 12:46 PM

I don't get why everyone wants Horton so bad. He is David Clarkson, why not be loyal to a guy who's given us his all as long as he's been here. And I bet Clarky's price tag is much cheaper. If we lose out on Clarky, I'd like to see us replace him with double the skill.
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