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#21 RizzMB30

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 08:38 AM

I think Clarky is a classy guy and I thought he was a loyal guy, but I thought Parise seemed loyal too.  Is it reasonable to think that Minny will chase Clarkson? Or are they in cap trouble? I know they could use a guy like clarky, since they just sent Clutterbuck to NYI.  I think because of how coveted he is on the market right now, that almost makes him worth paying maybe 5.5 to 6 million a year for, granted that is more than what he is really worth.


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 08:44 AM

Would anyone be happy if the Devils signed another team's free agent that's hard stretched to reach 50 points in a season (really hard stretched), isn't particularly good on the power play, isn't used to kill penalties, is a terrible passer, and has a habit of taking bad penalties...all for top 6 type dollars?  Because that describes David Clarkson.

 

Let someone else overpay and be saddled with the low returns on a bad contract.   

 

he was so bad that he was our top goal scorer and 5 of his goals were GWG. That tells a lot about our depth and why we should just be happy to see him walk.

 

i get that he was not the best player in the world but some fans here REALLY sound like they want to convince themselves that he was sh!t. Just like that butthurt girl who just got dump saying "pfff i never really liked him anyway" eventhough they've been together for 5 years.


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 08:47 AM

I think Clarky is a classy guy and I thought he was a loyal guy, but I thought Parise seemed loyal too.  Is it reasonable to think that Minny will chase Clarkson? Or are they in cap trouble? I know they could use a guy like clarky, since they just sent Clutterbuck to NYI.  I think because of how coveted he is on the market right now, that almost makes him worth paying maybe 5.5 to 6 million a year for, granted that is more than what he is really worth.

 

 

According to Cap Geek as of this morning the Minnesota Wild have the least amount of cap space in the entire NHL.

 

Anybody think the Red Wings could possibly target Clarkson?


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 08:47 AM

Im not a fan of an agent who had internal meeting with Lou and even David himself and would still say that... not the best sign.

 

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 08:48 AM

he was so bad that he was our top goal scorer. That tells a lot about our depth and why we should just be happy to see him walk.

 

i get that he was not the best player in the world but some fans here REALLY sound like they want to convince themselves that he was sh!t. Just like that butthurt girl who just got dump saying "pfff i never really liked him anyway" eventhough they've been together for 5 years.

 

Nearly all those goals came during the first quarter of the season, when the Devils were in first place.  Again, David Clarkson is not a top 6 forward, and that's the money he's going to get (maybe even top 3 on some teams).  It's not worth it.  If he took something similar to the Zubrus contract, I'd be perfectly fine with it...but that's not going to happen.   


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 08:50 AM

I think it's also important to point out that Toronto will have a lot of problems if they sign Clarkson to a huge deal.  They have a lot of other RFAs according to CapGeek.  Half of their defense corps, Kadri, newly acquired John Bernier


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 09:00 AM

wow Clarkson's agent sounds like a douche, well maybe not but that quote is rubbing me the wrong way.

 

All agents in all areas of work are posturing douche bags haha...


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 09:13 AM

cant lie pretty disappointed about this .. as much as ive been preparing myself that this was going to happen and there was a good chance he was no longer going to be devil iam super disappointed.. i loved this guy he was one of my favorites.. i know this doesnt mean hes completely gone but i think by now we all prettymuch know whats up. if he wanted to truely stay here he would have made more of an effort to work something out with lou. not as loyal as he came off to be i guess. this just made my morning sh!tty. exactly why you cant get attatched to players.
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Posted 02 July 2013 - 09:15 AM

Nearly all those goals came during the first quarter of the season, when the Devils were in first place.  Again, David Clarkson is not a top 6 forward, and that's the money he's going to get (maybe even top 3 on some teams).  It's not worth it.  If he took something similar to the Zubrus contract, I'd be perfectly fine with it...but that's not going to happen.   

 

so what? they still came and gave us a few wins. Thats the thing with sports fans, they'll make excuses for the players they like and sh!t on the player they don't no matter what he does. 

 

and by now everyone knows that i never liked Clarkson. Yet im taking his defence now cause its getting ridiculous, of course he's not worth 6m or wtv but the guy was scoring, fighting, checking, screening the goalie, good on the forecheck, was good along the boards. Thats still a LOT of very helpful things that we'll be missing if he leave.

 

again its one thing to be afraid of overpay a player but im WAY more afraid of losing him and not being able to sign someone to replace his production AND sign someone else to replace Zach's production who was still not replaced last season. Signing one UFA won't be enough to cover if we lose him. Unless we get incredible goaltending which allows us to win games scoring 1-2 goals again.


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 09:16 AM

wow Clarkson's agent sounds like a douche, well maybe not but that quote is rubbing me the wrong way.

 

 

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And Clarkson could have very well been facing life without the NHL had Lou not given him a chance.  One word:  undrafted.

 

I know this is the agent talking, but man does he sound like the stereotype of so many agents...just an annoying, wormy little zilch who took his share of playground pummelings as a youth. 

 

Do your job, get your client the best contract, I get that part of it, but don't be a dick.  That approach may work with some GMs, but it definitely isn't going to get it done with Lou.  Just ask Gilles Lupien. 


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 09:19 AM

at the end of the day i'll be fine with Clarkson leaving and not overpaying him IF we can land a similar shooter/scorer. but thats certainly not a guarantee 


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 09:22 AM

44 career playoff games, 5 goals.

 

Thanks for playing David.  $5 million per year is much better spent elsewhere.


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 09:24 AM

Clarkson's agent's quote about money seems to indicate that Clarkson wants signing bonus money - I don't think he'll get that here, the Devils typically don't do that (Kovalchuk's contract doesn't even have any signing bonuses in it).


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 09:25 AM

Clarkson at anything more than $4.5 mil/year screams lunacy to me.  I'm not even that comfortable with that much.  Even if the Devils don't sign a similar player immediately, I'd rather that than Clarkson being signed to "being scared to lose him overpay" money. 


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 09:31 AM

That signing bonus stuff is such bullsh!t.  It's an absolute advantage that the big market teams still have over the smaller market teams.


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 09:32 AM

And we're forgetting that Matteau can possibly replace Clarkson in the future. Maybe not next season, but certainly a hell of a lot cheaper over the next 5-7 years. Clarky brought some great locker room/character intangibles, but considering he wasn't much before DeBoer, I'm completely fine with this. Now let's hope the Devils sign a real scorer.

 

Can't believe Clarkson's agent would make comments like that. David has so much respect for Lou and the Devils that I wouldn't be surprised if he yells at his agent about this. Not the way you want leave


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 09:36 AM

Clarkson's agent's quote about money seems to indicate that Clarkson wants signing bonus money - I don't think he'll get that here, the Devils typically don't do that (Kovalchuk's contract doesn't even have any signing bonuses in it).

 

other than the value of current money, i can't see the big deal in a signing bonus with the way the cap is set up. unless its protection from a buyout?


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 09:38 AM

That signing bonus stuff is such bullsh!t.  It's an absolute advantage that the big market teams still have over the smaller market teams.

 

It's not a very big advantage at all.  Signing bonuses still count on the salary cap.  If the Devils had an owner who didn't spend his summers looking behind the 36 couches and love seats in his house for change to pay player salaries, it wouldn't be much of an issue.

 

other than the value of current money, i can't see the big deal in a signing bonus with the way the cap is set up. unless its protection from a buyout?

 

It's not a big deal, but it's something he'll almost certainly get from e.g. Toronto.  It might confer a certain amount of status.  And if David's somehow in need of money right now, I imagine it'd be very important.


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 09:44 AM

I am not concerned about Clarkson leaving. I am concerned that the Devils never replaced Gomez, Parise and n=maybe now Clarkson. We now have the goal tending and defense but both with big holes in the offense. Get to work Lou.


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 09:53 AM

It's an advantage in the sense that a 5m check right now is worth more than 5m over the next 12 months.


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