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Posted 21 January 2014 - 10:59 PM

Tuesday 1/21
NCAA
Boston College defeated Merrimack 4-1
Steve Santini D: +1
Season: 19 GP 2-5-7, +18, 36 PIM, 10.52 SH%, 1.00 SH/GP


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 12:30 AM

Wednesday 1/22
OHL
Kingston defeated Ottawa 6-4
Ryan Kujawinski C: Assist, +1
Season: 35 GP 16-13-29, E, 27 PIM

WHL
Swift Current defeated Brandon 4-3 (OT)
Graham Black C: Goal (PS, GWG), Assist, +3
Season: 46 GP 22-40-62, +16, 37 PIM

Kelowna defeated Everett 6-3
Damon Severson D: -2
Season: 39 GP 11-26-37, +25, 30 PIM

Myles Bell RW: +1
Season: 44 GP 27-21-48, +18, 36 PIM


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 10:32 PM

Thursday 1/23
KHL
Dinamo Minsk defeated Severstal 2-1 (SO)
Artur Gavrus F: DNP (Fever)
Season: 28 GP 1-2-3, -9, 8 PIM, 2.9 SH%, 1.2 SH/GP, 45.5 FO%, 11:38 ATOI

QMJHL
Gatineau lost to Quebec 6-2
Anthony Brodeur G: 29 Saves on 35 Shots
Season: 23 GP 10-11-0, 3.06 GAA, .885 SV%, 1 SO

-- Brodeur gave up 5 goals in the 3rd, 3 of them were power play goals for Quebec though.

OHL
North Bay defeated Saginaw 5-1
Ben Thomson LW: Goal (PP), E
Season: 34 GP 15-11-26, +5, 66 PIM

-- Thomson has 5 goals, 1 assist in his last 4 games.

Program Note: Ohio State (Gedig) at Wisconsin (Faust) tomorrow night at 9 on Big Ten Network.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 10:37 PM

Every time I see his name I think of the many undrafted 20 year olds who could be helping Albany this year.


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 12:50 AM

Every time I see his name I think of the many undrafted 20 year olds who could be helping Albany this year.

 

Whose name?


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 01:05 AM

Whose name?

Anthony Brodeur aha or Mr .885


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 08:31 AM

QMJHL
Gatineau lost to Quebec 6-2
Anthony Brodeur G: 29 Saves on 35 Shots
Season: 23 GP 10-11-0, 3.06 GAA, .885 SV%, 1 SO

-- Brodeur gave up 5 goals in the 3rd, 3 of them were power play goals for Quebec though.

 

Yikes, not exactly making the most of his chance to become the Olympique's #1. 

 

 

Anthony Brodeur aha or Mr .885

 

Get over it, Anthony cost the Devils a 7th-round pick and his being picked by the Devils and having it announced by Marty was a great moment for a father and son (even if it wasn't that big of a deal to a lot of Devil fans), and with all that Marty's done for the Devils, I can live with them throwing him a bone or two. 

 

It doesn't ALWAYS have to be about data-crunching and stats, stats, and more stats.   


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 09:51 AM

 

Get over it, Anthony cost the Devils a 7th-round pick and his being picked by the Devils and having it announced by Marty was a great moment for a father and son (even if it wasn't that big deal to a lot of Devil fans), and with all that Marty's done for the Devils, I can live with them throwing him a bone or two. 

 

It doesn't ALWAYS have to be about data-crunching and stats, stats, and more stats.   

Seems like a good way to give up an edge by tossing a bone or two. 


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 09:55 AM

Seems like a good way to give up an edge by tossing a bone or two.


I agree. How many bones are we going to throw Marty? The last 18 months:

1) New contract
2) drafting his son
3) undeserved "starting job" over Schneider
4) outdoor game (this one is fine in my eyes)
5) Mtl starts
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Posted 24 January 2014 - 10:16 AM

Seems like a good way to give up an edge by tossing a bone or two. 

 

Do you really think the Devils taking Marty's son is costing the Devils a whole hell of a lot?  This is bitching for the sake of bitching, and completely ignoring the fact that human beings sometimes do nice things for other human beings, out of sheer appreciation.  Lou and Marty have a little more going on than a GM-player relationship.      

 

 

I agree. How many bones are we going to throw Marty? The last 18 months:

1) New contract
2) drafting his son
3) undeserved "starting job" over Schneider
4) outdoor game (this one is fine in my eyes)
5) Mtl starts

 

1) Knew that was coming, completely understood why in context.  They just shouldn't do it again.

2) Was a nice moment, as stated before, only cost the Devils a 7th-rounder. 

3) Schneider was inconsistent for a while (and unlucky to boot), and Marty bought himself extra time with that 6-game hot streak.  It probably took longer than we all wanted it to, but it looks like the #1 job is finally Schneider's for good.  For some reason, it sure seemed like PDB was hesitant to trust him.

4) Yeah, pretty much a slamdunk that he was getting this game.

5) Marty won one and lost one.  Wasn't like it was a complete disaster.  And this is how it goes...a guy like Marty is sometimes going to get a farewell start.  Did you really think the Devils were going to give that last Montreal start to Schneider?


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Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
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It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 10:18 AM

Contract and drafting his son are irrelevant, they don't really affect the team at all. All the other sh!t is what pisses me off. 


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 10:30 AM


1) Knew that was coming, completely understood why in context. They just shouldn't do it again.
2) Was a nice moment, as stated before, only cost the Devils a 7th-rounder.
3) Schneider was inconsistent for a while (and unlucky to boot), and Marty bought himself extra time with that 6-game hot streak. It probably took longer than we all wanted it to, but it looks like the #1 job is finally Schneider's for good. For some reason, it sure seemed like PDB was hesitant to trust him.
4) Yeah, pretty much a slamdunk that he was getting this game.
5) Marty won one and lost one. Wasn't like it was a complete disaster. And this is how it goes...a guy like Marty is sometimes going to get a farewell start. Did you really think the Devils were going to give that last Montreal start to Schneider?


1) Everyone here knew it was a disaster waiting to happen. You can "understand"anything when it comes to Marty because of what he's accomplished, doesn't make it right

2) Yeah, nice moment and all but look at who NJ drafted in round 6. Bell is a guy who will at the very least get an AHL contract and who knows from there. I'd rather spend a 7th on a prospect like Tolchinsky who is a boom or bust guy

3) Schneider's save percentage was never under .915 (I'm throwing out the first 3 starts). He has been playing Marty nearly the whole year and should have gotten the reigns much sooner. He only didn't back up like 3 games

4) Like I said, fine. Devils probably gave up points in Phoenix by accommodating Brodeur so he wouldn't be rusty for Sunday

5) This is what it is. Luckily it turned out ok but NJ can't drop many more points
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Posted 24 January 2014 - 11:09 AM

1) Everyone here knew it was a disaster waiting to happen. You can "understand"anything when it comes to Marty because of what he's accomplished, doesn't make it right

2) Yeah, nice moment and all but look at who NJ drafted in round 6. Bell is a guy who will at the very least get an AHL contract and who knows from there. I'd rather spend a 7th on a prospect like Tolchinsky who is a boom or bust guy

3) Schneider's save percentage was never under .915 (I'm throwing out the first 3 starts). He has been playing Marty nearly the whole year and should have gotten the reigns much sooner. He only didn't back up like 3 games

4) Like I said, fine. Devils probably gave up points in Phoenix by accommodating Brodeur so he wouldn't be rusty for Sunday

5) This is what it is. Luckily it turned out ok but NJ can't drop many more points

 

1) Not accurate...Marty had finished 2011-12 on a 50-game flourish of .920 save% play.  Based on his first halves of both 2010-11 and 2011-12, there were reasons to be wary and concerned, but to say "everyone here knew it was a disaster waiting to happen" is not at all true.  The other option was to say fvck it and let him go sign somewhere else...basically, it wasn't an option.  That wasn't going to happen, especially when he had played pretty well in helping the Devils reach the Cup final...but if Marty insists that he's still got something left after this season, Lou needs to say no. 

 

2) Some people are going to make a big deal out of a 7th-round pick.  Not me, in this case.  I thought it was a nice heartfelt gesture on Lou's part, and it led to a moment that was more for Marty and Anthony than it was for anyone else.  I can live with that.   

 

3) Schneider unfortunately did have a couple of setbacks...got hurt early, Marty has his surge, then Cory had that stretch of "meh" December starts, and the team was putting up a better record in Marty's games.  I would've liked to have seen PDB give Cory more of a chance then he was willing to and trust him more earlier, but it is what is...can't go back and change it.

 

Anyway, it's the prospect thread.  Hope Anthony bounces back. 


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Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 11:14 AM

I agree. How many bones are we going to throw Marty? The last 18 months:

1) New contract
2) drafting his son
3) undeserved "starting job" over Schneider
4) outdoor game (this one is fine in my eyes)
5) Mtl starts

 

CR1976 hit most of the points, but I wanted to add...

 

1) He's left MILLIONS on the table over the years to stay here for under market value so that Lou had the money to sign other players, plus he signed his current contract coming off a finals appearance and with no top goalie in the system at the time.

 

2) It was a 7th round pick and NJ didn't even HAVE a 7th round pick! We got it from LA, so it's not like we missed out on a player with a pick of ours. Is it going to cost us something in the 7th round of the 2014 draft? Very doubtful.

 

3) There was a locker room of players loyal to Marty. Cory had to come in and EARN that starting spot. I've said that all along. To avoid a divided locker room, Cory had to come in and outplay Marty to the point where everyone knew he was the guy. It would have happened sooner but Cory was hurt when he took the spot and then Marty kept getting wins even though Cory outplayed him. Now Cory is getting the wins more often, and including tonight has 6 of the last 8 starts.

 

4)I think mostly everyone agrees about the outdoor game. Win or lose, he's a big reason the Devils are around to be in it.

 

5) He has a fantastic track record in Montreal, plus Schneider started the 3 games prior to the 1/14 Montreal game and the one after it. As for the 12/2 Montreal game, Cory started the 2 games before it (back to back) and the 2 after it.


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 11:29 AM

The Anthony Brodeur pick costs almost nothing - it was a nice moment, followed by aggravation with people sweating him like he has a chance at the NHL.  He does not.

 

DD56:  We've been over this and over this, but if you think that the players can't see that Brodeur wasn't very good the last 3 years, I'm not sure what to tell you.  With the Devils looking like if they do miss the playoffs, it will be by a point or 2, a few more Schneider starts could have been the difference.


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 11:42 AM

The Anthony Brodeur pick costs almost nothing - it was a nice moment, followed by aggravation with people sweating him like he has a chance at the NHL.  He does not.

 

But who's really doing that?  I think there's some interest in what he's doing because he's Marty's kid, not because any Devil fans think he's got any shot to make the NHL...I have yet to see ANY Devils fans say they truly believe Anthony will be an NHLer someday.  For all we know, the highlight of his career might already have happened (setting the shutout streak for Gatineau).     


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It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 11:54 AM

The Anthony Brodeur pick costs almost nothing - it was a nice moment, followed by aggravation with people sweating him like he has a chance at the NHL.  He does not.

 

DD56:  We've been over this and over this, but if you think that the players can't see that Brodeur wasn't very good the last 3 years, I'm not sure what to tell you.  With the Devils looking like if they do miss the playoffs, it will be by a point or 2, a few more Schneider starts could have been the difference.

 

Players don't pay much attention to stats, Corsi, percentages, etc. To them, Marty is a locker room leader and a guy who backstopped a lot of them to a finals appearance a little over a year ago. These are still human beings after all. Cory outplaying Marty and taking over the spot was a necessity.

 

As for points, Marty's been in net for 30 points in 27 games, Cory for 23 points in 24 games. Marty averages 1.1 point a game, Cory averages .95. As well as Cory has played, he still wasn't winning a lot until recently, so the assumption that his starts would equal points up until now isn't very valid. Going forward it'll probably be true, as Cory is now starting the lion's share of games as he should and the team is healthy on offense again.


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 01:14 PM

I know guys don't pay attention to stats.  Players spend more time on the bench than they do on the ice, and they see him giving up the weak goals.  

 

The problem is that Brodeur has gotten incredibly lucky and Schneider incredibly unlucky.  Brodeur has absolutely cost them points, even if it does not look like it from his record.

 

As for Anthony Brodeur, I should've been more precise - people are sweating him like they would a player who has a great chance at the NHL.


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 01:27 PM

I know guys don't pay attention to stats.  Players spend more time on the bench than they do on the ice, and they see him giving up the weak goals.  

 

The problem is that Brodeur has gotten incredibly lucky and Schneider incredibly unlucky.  Brodeur has absolutely cost them points, even if it does not look like it from his record.

 

As for Anthony Brodeur, I should've been more precise - people are sweating him like they would a player who has a great chance at the NHL.

 

Off the top of my head, the early season Edmonton debacle (blowing a 3-0 lead) cost them 1 point and then gagging it up against Columbus another 1-2 points


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 01:43 PM

As for Anthony Brodeur, I should've been more precise - people are sweating him like they would a player who has a great chance at the NHL.

 

Again, who is doing that?  Which people? 


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