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#1 DJ Eco

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 09:24 AM

"@DarrenDreger: @TSNBobMcKenzie. Already talk of offer sheets among teams with space. Pietrangelo, Bogosian, Little, Bailey, Henrique, Hamonic..."

 

Do you let Henrique go if someone hands him an offer sheet for long-term $4-5m? Is the return worth it? How about $3-4m? $2-3m? Are you convinced with Henrique? Discuss...


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 09:26 AM

Lou already dealt with this last week, we match any offer, no debate. Next.
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Posted 05 July 2013 - 09:27 AM

I don't think he'd get that much. Lou claims he'd match any sheet. Lou is pretty well respected. I don't know if many GM's would try that on him.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 09:29 AM

I don't think he'd get that much. Lou claims he'd match any sheet. Lou is pretty well respected. I don't know if many GM's would try that on him.

 

Yeah but "business is business" this time of the year. Sure hope we don't get put in this position... Not sure we're at a point where we can be certain a bigger contract is warranted for Henrique just yet..


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 09:32 AM

Not really familiar with the concept of an offer sheet..
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Posted 05 July 2013 - 09:34 AM

I don't think he'd get that much. Lou claims he'd match any sheet. Lou is pretty well respected. I don't know if many GM's would try that on him.

That's exactly what I thought when he said it... no literal content there -- it was all "I'll have your balls for breakfast if you pull any sh!t on me"


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 09:38 AM

If the the compensation nets us the 1st,2nd, and 3rd round pick I'd seriously consider taking the picks http://prohockeytalk...a-offer-sheets/


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 09:45 AM

Henrique for a 1st, 2nd and 3rd seems like a good deal to me. :D


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 09:46 AM

Not really familiar with the concept of an offer sheet..

 

If someone signs an offer sheet to Henrique, we get draft picks in return. Which draft picks and how many is related to how much they offer Henrique. brodeur14301991's link shows you exactly how the price brackets work and how much we'd get in return. After you pass $3m, which I'm not sure Henrique is worth at the moment, the return becomes pretty attractive, considering we don't have a 1st round pick next year... Really tempting.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 10:10 AM

would love to see the rangers get screwed with an 2 big offer sheets to McDonagh and Stephn. Ahh that would be awesome :)


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 10:44 AM

would love to see the rangers get screwed with an 2 big offer sheets to McDonagh and Stephn. Ahh that would be awesome :)

 

Rangers and (especially) Flyers are two huge open targets... Although not sure Flyers have any big RFAs this year, might be next year..


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 11:00 AM

If someone is foolish enough to throw 3m/year at Henrique then so be it.  Take the picks and move on.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 11:04 AM


would love to see the rangers get screwed with an 2 big offer sheets to McDonagh and Stephn. Ahh that would be awesome :)



Rangers and (especially) Flyers are two hugely open targets... Although not sure Flyers have any big RFAs this year, might be next year..


McDonough will be re-signed soon. All of Phily's RFAs are next year .


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 11:05 AM

Yeah, I say take the picks because I want to see how few goals they will score this year.
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Posted 05 July 2013 - 11:07 AM

Can't let the roster this year let you make a stupid long-term decision.  If someone signs him to a rich, long-term deal that he isn't worth, I'd be hard pressed to match it.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 05:19 PM

Yeah, I say take the picks because I want to see how few goals they will score this year.

Umm.... If someone signs him for a 3m offer sheet? Match that sh!t.  Easy.  If someone wants to blow 5 million or over on a guy who is what I'd call an promising, yet honestly unproven goal scorer.  Over 5 million, I'd still considering matching it, but yes, 3 picks is pretty entrancing.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 05:29 PM

Umm.... If someone signs him for a 3m offer sheet? Match that sh!t.  Easy.  If someone wants to blow 5 million or over on a guy who is what I'd call an promising, yet honestly unproven goal scorer.  Over 5 million, I'd still considering matching it, but yes, 3 picks is pretty entrancing.

After about $3.105M, we'd get a 1st and a 3rd as compensation, which isn't bad. Next level is at $4.658M, that gets us a 1st, 2nd and a 3rd. Both these aren't a bad trade for Henrique, depending on what team it comes from. We'd have to sign another FA player to fill the hole left by him though.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 08:35 PM

For what he would realistically get offered on the market, I think we'll keep em. 

 

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 08:53 PM

After about $3.105M, we'd get a 1st and a 3rd as compensation, which isn't bad. Next level is at $4.658M, that gets us a 1st, 2nd and a 3rd. Both these aren't a bad trade for Henrique, depending on what team it comes from. We'd have to sign another FA player to fill the hole left by him though.

 

To poison pill the contract at 1/2/3 comp, you'd have to go up over $6M a year.   That ain't happening.   Keep in mind the offer sheeting team is taking a risk in this.   The reason Lou can say he'll match any sheet is because if it happens, it's not going to be completely retarded.


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Posted 06 July 2013 - 08:38 AM

To poison pill the contract at 1/2/3 comp, you'd have to go up over $6M a year.   That ain't happening.   Keep in mind the offer sheeting team is taking a risk in this.   The reason Lou can say he'll match any sheet is because if it happens, it's not going to be completely retarded.

We were both wrong it turns out, lol.

Straight from NHL.com on their FA tracker page:

OFFER                                          COMPENSATION

$1,110,249 or below                     None
Over $1,110,249 to $1,682,194    3rd-round choice
Over $1,682,194 to $3,364,391    2nd-round choice
Over $3,364,391 to $5,046,585    1st-round and 3rd-round choice
Over $5,046,585 to $6,728,781    1st-round, 2nd-round and 3rd-round choice
Over $6,728,781 to $8,410,976    Two 1st-round choices, one 2nd- and one 3rd-round choice
Over $8,410,976                            Four first-round choices


So if someone offer sheets Henrique for more than $3.364M, we'd get a 1st and 3rd, more than $5.046M and we'd get the 1st, 2nd and 3rd. They'd have to be offering at least $3.364M to even get the team thinking about not matching. A 2nd rd pick isn't enough for Adam. A 1st and 3rd, maybe. A 1st, 2nd and a 3rd and I'm thinking real hard about it.


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