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#1 Triumph

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 09:54 PM

In each of the last 4 years, the Devils' fanbase has been trading a defenseman during the off-season.  In 2010, one of Salvador or White had to go.  In 2011, it was the same thing, but White got bought out.  In 2012, it was one of Tallinder, Volchenkov, or Fayne.  The trade never came.  Will it happen this year?

 

Well, let's take a peek around the league.  The Devils are close to the salary cap - so close that I don't think it justifies the trade of Mark Fayne.  In addition, the Devils' young D who might crack the roster are all lefties, which makes me think that Tallinder, Volchenkov, or (let me have this, please) Salvador would be the guy on the way out.  So who needs help at left D?

 

Buffalo:

 

LD - Ehrhoff, Mike Weber, ??

 

Comments:  Seems like a pretty good landing spot for Henrik Tallinder, who came from here and mentored Tyler Myers in Year 1.  I could see them having an interest in Bryce Salvador as well, as they lost Robyn Regehr and have yet to fill the 'immobile pylon' part of their D.

 

Florida:

 

LD - Campbell, Jovanovski, Kulikov, Strachan

 

Comments:  While Florida has plenty of left D, Ed Jovanovski is shockingly breaking down physically, so he can't be counted on for next year.  Rumors are that the Panthers have to be a floor team, which might lead to them cutting salary instead of adding it.

 

Ottawa:

 

LD - Methot, Phillips, Weiercoch, Cowen

 

Comments:  While they have 4 decent guys, they lost Gonchar this off-season and have yet to replace him.

 

Washington:

 

LD - Alzner, Erskine, Orlov

 

Comments:  This seems like the best fit for a trade - they had Hamrlik in this spot in 2012, but he played poorly going into 2013 and was shipped off to the Rangers.  John Erskine was categorically terrible in the playoffs.  There's still guys on the free agent market, but this is where the best fit seems to lie.

 

I don't really see any other fits around the league, and there's still some decent UFA defenders around, so I'm not sure how Lou gets this done - maybe he just lets Zidlicky walk and goes with the 7 guys he's got.  Wouldn't be the worst thing he's done, but the power play will suffer for sure.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 09:59 PM

The best trade partner out there might be the Flyers, but that's not happening for obvious reasons.
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Posted 05 July 2013 - 10:00 PM

I always think we should wait for training camp since Urbom Merrill or Gelinas could impress but I think Salvador would be the safest to move since Urbom without development could sort of fill in his role. 


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 10:24 PM

are you assuming one of the 3 LD will be dealt for draft picks if anything?

 

i think greene could be ok on the PP and hasn't ryder done it also/ devils may go back to 5 F PP:

 

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#5 Triumph

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 10:36 PM

are you assuming one of the 3 LD will be dealt for draft picks if anything?

 

i think greene could be ok on the PP and hasn't ryder done it also/ devils may go back to 5 F PP:

 

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Ryder has not played the point on a power play to my knowledge.  I could see them sticking Zajac or Elias there but I don't like 5 forward PPs for two reasons - one they're awful at defense and two they make it so that your 4th line has to play the first shift after the PP, which is when most teams send out their best offensive line.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 10:49 PM

Andy Greene can't get a shot on net or a shot worth being tipped. Merrill as very good running the point from the right side as a left shot. I know it's a risk playing a rookie in that role but I really think we have to wait until camp to decide. Maybe Larsson improved his shot for all we knoww, as long as his shot is a slight threat he should work on the 1st PP unit.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 11:15 PM

I would love to trade Tallinder for Gagner. As I noted earlier today, Horcoff was traded for a D-Man and a seventh rounder, so  I imagine Gagner could get done for the same, if not less. If we could get that done, we're looking like possibly the biggest winner in the entire off-season


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 11:17 PM

I would love to trade Tallinder for Gagner. As I noted earlier today, Horcoff was traded for a D-Man and a seventh rounder, so  I imagine Gagner could get done for the same, if not less. If we could get that done, we're looking like possibly the biggest winner in the entire off-season

 

No, Merrill, plus more woul dhave to go back for a PPG 25 year old center. Horcoff's 10 years older. There's literally no chance in hell they'd trade him for Tallinder straight up. You'd probably need to give up Merrill, Tallinder (if they want him), maybe Boucher and a future 1 for him 


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 11:37 PM

What kind of return would you be looking for? For Sal or Volch, give me a damn draft pick and run
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Posted 05 July 2013 - 11:37 PM

No, Merrill, plus more woul dhave to go back for a PPG 25 year old center. Horcoff's 10 years older. There's literally no chance in hell they'd trade him for Tallinder straight up. You'd probably need to give up Merrill, Tallinder (if they want him), maybe Boucher and a future 1 for him 

 

Gagner is UFA next year.  No way this is the package for him.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 11:46 PM

Think Lou might work with the Flyers if a 3rd team was involved?


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 11:46 PM

Just bringing it up, Buffalo probably won't be able to keep Miller/Vanek since they are in a "rebuild". Is there ANY package NJ could send that way to grab a player like TV? I am mentioning it, but I don't see it happening...especially with no 1st round pick next year.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 11:49 PM

Don't rule the Predators out.  Of the 6 D-men on their roster, only Weber and Klein have played more than 2 seasons.  They could definitely use a veteran.  If they can clear Kostitsyn's cap hit, they could take Tallinder pretty easily.


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Posted 06 July 2013 - 12:47 AM

Are there any teams that currently are under the minimum of the cap? I don't think I am wording it correctly but remember last year when the Islanders got Tim Thomas for that reason. Is there a team where we could unload Volchenkov or Tallinder to possibly get picks back?


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Posted 06 July 2013 - 01:02 AM

Are there any teams that currently are under the minimum of the cap? I don't think I am wording it correctly but remember last year when the Islanders got Tim Thomas for that reason. Is there a team where we could unload Volchenkov or Tallinder to possibly get picks back?


Islanders are currently 1.8m under it but thats it
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Posted 06 July 2013 - 02:05 AM

I'm a huge fan of Tallinder but I think he's more attractive to other teams than Volchenkov or Salvador. Wouldn't be surprised if Buffalo tried to get him to attempt to straighten out Myers.


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Posted 06 July 2013 - 08:25 AM

I wonder if anyone would give us a 7th round pick for Volchenkov?


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Posted 06 July 2013 - 08:29 AM

I wonder if anyone would give us a 7th round pick for Volchenkov?

I doubt Volch goes anywhere until he's in the last year of his deal. Tally has to be the guy on the move imo. He's not as bad as has been said, his contract is pretty damn reasonable and this is the last year of it. I think we can move him. Hopefully we can get ok value and get at least a 3rd for him.


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Posted 06 July 2013 - 08:29 AM

I thought the Canes were looking for a veteran D man?

 

I think the only chance we have of trading one of our 3 old D men will be if a team has injuries to their D corp and really need a fill in.


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Posted 06 July 2013 - 08:35 AM

I thought the Canes were looking for a veteran D man?

 

I think the only chance we have of trading one of our 3 old D men will be if a team has injuries to their D corp and really need a fill in.

They picked one up in Andrej Sekera.


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