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#61 SS-SS

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 10:48 PM

What can Lou do about all this ? I mean I can't really ask too much from him. What are you supposed to do when a guy you signed to a 15 years contract walks after 2 years ? We lost Parise because of that Moron (Ilya) and now we are left with no top players.

 

The best forward we got is Patrick Elias. Unless the teams pulls out a rabbit and play a fantastic team play with some of the young players panning out (fantastic too) we are going to miss the playoffs for a 2nd years in a row and draft nobody at all. 


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 10:55 PM

I say we trade for Niuwendyk and Friesen, and hope Stephen turns into Brian Gionta. Then all we have to do to recapture '03 is find someone to replace Stevens and Nieds.


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 10:58 PM

Watch as Lou pulls a rabbit out of our ass and trades Tedenby for Malkin straight up.

(Yes I know this would never happen)


With our luck Malkin would leave for the KHL tomorrow and Tedenby would get 60+ points with Crosby.
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Posted 11 July 2013 - 11:03 PM

Dustin Penner. He was a beast in Edmonton. LA used him wrong and his production went into a tailspin. He's only 30, 6'5", 245, and has a great nose for the net. He also doesn't take stupid penalties at all. He won't replace Kovy but he is a free agent, his stock is down, and I think he could thrive in DeBoer's system.

 

No thanks. He's a terrible underachiever.

Some of you guys act like the only remaining UFA choices are either Jagr or Pierre Luc-Leblond


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 11:08 PM

No thanks. He's a terrible underachiever.
Some of you guys act like the only remaining UFA choices are either Jagr or Pierre Luc-Leblond

That's pretty much it. Nobody's out there worth giving money/length to. Brunner, please - Detroit couldn't get rid of him fast enough. When Detroit doesn't want you, buyer beware.

Maybe this is why the Jagr rumors were out when it seemed to make no earthly sense yesterday. Now it makes sense with an open spot and more cap room.

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 11:11 PM

Sign Boyes at 1.5 mil

Sign Raymond at 2 to 3 mil

 

Problem solved and Oh look we're under the cap!


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 11:11 PM

Help is not coming from within. Tedenby is pretty much a lost cause and Josefeson might score 30 points in a full season (if he can even play a full season)

 

Signing Jagr is a no brainer. He wants to come here. The closer to AC the better for him. A 1 year deal and he can help replace Kovy on the powerplay.

 

After that maybe sign Brunner or Grabovski.


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 11:14 PM

Sign Boyes at 1.5 mil
Sign Raymond at 2 to 3 mil

Problem solved and Oh look we're under the cap!


Raymond's a better version of Tedenby, he won't add much. Boyes I'll give you.
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Posted 11 July 2013 - 11:18 PM

Help is not coming from within. Tedenby is pretty much a lost cause and Josefeson might score 30 points in a full season (if he can even play a full season)

 

Signing Jagr is a no brainer. He wants to come here. The closer to AC the better for him. A 1 year deal and he can help replace Kovy on the powerplay.

 

After that maybe sign Brunner or Grabovski.

 

Oh my god! No to Jagr already! He can replace Kovy's scoring if and a big only if he can make it down the ice without passing out from exhaustion.

Brunner will come at a price based on 44 NHL games where he did pretty good. Grabovski? I know he was born in Germany but the KHL may want him just based on his name.


Raymond's a better version of Tedenby, he won't add much. Boyes I'll give you.

 

I'm high on Raymond for several things, one is his speed, but I imagine he may come in with something to prove. He was a healthy scratch after a less than stellar season and there's a familiar face in NJ with Schneider.


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 11:25 PM

I think Raymond and Boyes wouldn't be amazing options, but they're the ONLY solid options.  Raymond has nice hands and is a possible 20-goal scorer.  Boyes can fit in with the Zajac Elias line well, I believe, and contribute for very cheap. 

 

Jagr- too old and I don't like him as a player.  

Brunner- too young and I can't see him producing through a full season especially if Detroit doesn't want him.  

Grabovski- center which we have too much of, and not to mention the attitude of calling out coaches isn't professional, and I'd prefer to stay away from NON-professional players (cough cough kovy).

Penner- funny.

Cleary- 3rd line with jj/henrique and zubrus? Interesting to say the least, but still unsure

Poni- sorry, I've seen enough

Gerbe- Upgrade to tedenby, but thats about it

Pandolfo- I'm sure Lou would do this in a heartbeat

 

To conclude... sign at least Boyes and Raymond and I'll be happy with what we got, but not Jagr, please


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 11:30 PM

As much as I dislike it, Jagr seems to be a sensible, short term answer for THIS SEASON.  He's a right wing - Plug him into Kovy's RW spot and see what happens.   If he can duplicate his regular season production from 2012, you're looking at projected stats of 27-33-60 over an 82 game season.

 

Lou shouldn't make any panic moves that might set the franchise back further by offering a multi-year deal to a guy that doesn't deserve it.


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 11:34 PM

As much as I dislike it, Jagr seems to be a sensible, short term answer for THIS SEASON.  He's a right wing - Plug him into Kovy's RW spot and see what happens.   If he can duplicate his regular season production from 2012, you're looking at projected stats of 27-33-60 over an 82 game season.

 

Lou shouldn't make any panic moves that might set the franchise back further by offering a multi-year deal to a guy that doesn't deserve it.

 

You forget that Jagr is 41 and was dogging it out there during the playoffs. No way he can compete in 82 games.


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 11:36 PM

You forget that Jagr is 41 and was dogging it out there during the playoffs. No way he can compete in 82 games.

 

Nobody is saying he should. Sign Jagr and keep him to around 65 games or so. Avoid playing him on back to backs


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 11:40 PM

Nobody is saying he should. Sign Jagr and keep him to around 65 games or so. Avoid playing him on back to backs

Pay him 2 million plus forly willing playing less than a full season? Sounds like a plan!


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 11:41 PM

Jagr was dogging it in the playoffs?  That's utterly ridiculous.  I know he doesn't have the right ratio of vowels to consonants in his last name.  Take issue with his performance, but his desire is all there.


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 11:43 PM

I'm a big fan of Grabovski but as others said, the Devils are set at center. I hope Lou goes after Brunner. Fits a need and shouldn't cost too much. I'm not really that high on Boyes or Raymond. Jagr would be cool but I have serious concerns about how they could manage his body over a full season at this point in his career.


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 11:43 PM

Jagr was dogging it in the playoffs?  That's utterly ridiculous.  I know he doesn't have the right ratio of vowels to consonants in his last name.  Take issue with his performance, but his desire is all there.

 

Let me clarify: I'm not knocking his desire because it's still there. By dogging it I mean he was out there huffing and puffing.


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 11:44 PM

Jagr was dogging it in the playoffs?  That's utterly ridiculous.  I know he doesn't have the right ratio of vowels to consonants in his last name.  Take issue with his performance, but his desire is all there.

 

The laziest player in the NHL. Oh wait...

 

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 11:52 PM

The laziest player in the NHL. Oh wait...

 

http://www.cbc.ca/sp...in-the-gym.html

 

Read my clarification before jumping to conclusions. I wasn't questioning his effort or desire. By "dogging" I meant he was pretty frickin' exhausted. Plus he's 41. Here's the comparison between Jagr and Boyes:

 

Jagr 12-13: 35 pts in 45 games Right Wing Shoots left 41 years old

 

Boyes 12-13 35 pts in 48 games Right Wing shoots right 31 years old

 

Jagr won't come cheap.


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 12:27 AM

He played with Tavares...


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