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#81 CarpathianForest

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 12:34 AM

He played with Tavares...

 

He also put up some good numbers on some less than stellar Blues and Bruins teams.


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 01:27 AM

Well, if anyone cares, per Capgeek, Zids' deal is a $3M + 1M bonus deal.   So, a $4M cap hit which I guess will no longer have to be rolled over into next season unless they fall into Vanek or something.   LOL


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 01:32 AM

Well, if anyone cares, per Capgeek, Zids' deal is a $3M + 1M bonus deal.   So, a $4M cap hit which I guess will no longer have to be rolled over into next season unless they fall into Vanek or something.   LOL

 

Wow! If we made a deal on Vanek I would be nervous all season waiting for Vanek to announce in July 2014 during free agent frenzy that he's decided to go home.


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 01:36 AM

Wow! If we made a deal on Vanek I would be nervous all season waiting for Vanek to announce in July 2014 during free agent frenzy that he's decided to go home.

 

I don't think Buffalo needs D after the draft anymore, though.    I get the lack of comfort with it, though.   Can you do sign and trades in the NHL?


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 01:40 AM

Well, if anyone cares, per Capgeek, Zids' deal is a $3M + 1M bonus deal. So, a $4M cap hit which I guess will no longer have to be rolled over into next season unless they fall into Vanek or something. LOL



Wow! If we made a deal on Vanek I would be nervous all season waiting for Vanek to announce in July 2014 during free agent frenzy that he's decided to go home.

Vanek wouldn't go home right away. He'd resign with the Devils next summer. After considerable time deciding between us and the Rangers, he chooses us. WOOHOO! Then 3 years into his 8 year deal, he'll decide to ACTUALLY retire and go home to Austria to start a brewery. It's the type of thing that could only happen to the Devils.

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 01:44 AM

Vanek wouldn't go home right away. He'd resign with the Devils next summer. After considerable time deciding between us and the Rangers, he chooses us. WOOHOO! Then 3 years into his 8 year deal, he'll decide to ACTUALLY retire and go home to Austria to start a brewery. It's the type of thing that could only happen to the Devils.

 

He would re-sign with the Devils but only after making us wait until August to finally make his decision in turn causing Lou to lose out on other valuable free agents because of cap space. Oh and Salvador and Volch would get contract extensions.

Cam Janssen would be re-signed too.

 

Remember when we were one of the teams with the most American players? I don't want to seem xenophobic, but maybe we should go back to that. At least we can make a case for geographic proximity to the players' homes.


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 01:47 AM

Vanek wouldn't go home right away. He'd resign with the Devils next summer. After considerable time deciding between us and the Rangers, he chooses us. WOOHOO! Then 3 years into his 8 year deal, he'll decide to ACTUALLY retire and go home to Austria to start a brewery. It's the type of thing that could only happen to the Devils.

 

And then 20 minutes after the brewery opens, he'd sign with the new KHL franchise, Bierstorm Vienna


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 02:04 AM

Mason Raymond? Let me tell you about Raymond. 

 

He has blazing speed and can make some amazing rushes up the ice.

 

He is a great PK'er

 

Above average passer.

 

Very strong in the D zone.

 

He is a total perimeter player. His patented move is to gain the O zone, do a button hook and curl away from the boards to the centre and then either make a dumb pass or get knocked off the puck. He has absolutely no board play.

 

He is a capable 20+ goal scorer on the right team, great shot.

 

Last season he was still recovering from the broken back he received in the SCF against Boston.

 

The big knock on him is his lack of physical play. On a big team he is a good complimentary player but on a small team or soft team he is just one more small, soft player. Vancouver needed to turn the page because we need size and grit. He was no longer performing up to expectations and seemed to lose his confidence. 

 

He was seldom benched or seldom a healthy scratch. He was one of those players that AV gave a ton of ice time too and plenty of opportunity to be that offensive sniper we needed. He just couldn't do it. He is a streak scorer, seems unstoppable for 2-3 games then disappears for 20 or so.

 

He definitely would benefit from a fresh start but you have to know what you get. He is a complimentary player not the guy to build around. I think he is holding out for a 3-4 year deal around the 3 million range but I would be a little hesitant to sign him at that. Perhaps a 2 year 2-2.5 per deal to prove himself on a new team.


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 05:55 AM

I say pick up Jagr and if the Devils drop out of contention around the trade deadline they have a piece to trade for the future. Sound familiar? Oh yea, Dallas did it last year?!?! Flip him for prospects and a 2nd rounder and he's worth the 4 mil he's asking for (Dallas got a 1st only because boston made the eastern conference finals).

 

With all the Czech's we have now Elias says "Jaromír buddy, come play on the eastern conference Czech team for half a year with your countrymen leading in to Sochi, and then if it doesn't work out Lou will flip you to a contender." BAM!

 

Note: I have always disliked Jagr since 08..don't like the guns for hire type players, but a gun for higher is exactly what we need for 1 year to replace the ultimate mercenary; Kovy. 


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 07:39 AM

I also have hated Jagr for longer than I can remember, until this past postseason when I found myself really pulling for him and really enjoyed watching him play. I think regardless of the lack of goals, he had an amazon postseason in terms of playmaking and possession play. I'd love to see him paired up with Patty this season, however they'd need a scoring center out there with them in my opinion. Also I really think Brunner should be an option, 27 year old rookie with high level experience who managed to crack Detroits top 6 for most of the season, also playing the point on the PP at times. If he could hang in there on Detroit (I know they were ravage with injuries) he clearly has a good attitude and head on his shoulders.
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Posted 12 July 2013 - 08:21 AM

You are the only fvcking moron in the entire fvcking world who can blame Lou for a player deciding to retire 2 years into a 15 year contract. Go jump off a bridge you ignorant twat.

Listen you flaming a$$Hole I didn't blame Lou for Kovy's decision. Since Lou knew Kovy's intentions since January 2013, I said that closed mouth Lou mislead through silence the team, fans and etc.. There could have been a leak, you wouldn't understand strategy it's used all the time, Fans were excited about the progress of the draft and free agency only to be let down with a major unknown blow. Elias was pissed that Kovy was allowed to stay in Russia for the all star game and now he is pissed and says it will effect the team about Kovy's decision. How do you think he feels after signing his 3 year contract thinking we had offense with Kovy on board? Salvador was surprised. Season ticket holder signed up again to find out they were mislead by Devils management. Now go F-yourself.


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 09:06 AM

Trade Volch to Colorado in a package to get Stastny, sign Jagr.

 

Henrique-Stastny-Ryder

Zubrus-Elias-Jagr

Clowe-Zajac-Tedenby

Carter-Gionta-Bernier

Extra: Loktionov/Barch

 

Greene-Larsson

Gelinas-Fayne

Salvador-Zidlicky

Extra: Harrold


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 09:20 AM

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 10:14 AM

Listen you flaming a$$Hole I didn't blame Lou for Kovy's decision. Since Lou knew Kovy's intentions since January 2013, I said that closed mouth Lou mislead through silence the team, fans and etc.. There could have been a leak, you wouldn't understand strategy it's used all the time, Fans were excited about the progress of the draft and free agency only to be let down with a major unknown blow. Elias was pissed that Kovy was allowed to stay in Russia for the all star game and now he is pissed and says it will effect the team about Kovy's decision. How do you think he feels after signing his 3 year contract thinking we had offense with Kovy on board? Salvador was surprised. Season ticket holder signed up again to find out they were mislead by Devils management. Now go F-yourself.

You know what the problem is, here? You'll never be happy and you'll die alone.

 

And you know what, what was he supposed to stay? He knew that it was a possible decision. He was supposed to say "hey, heads up, our star player kinda wants to go home so we don't really know if he'll be here". If he decided to stay, that's the ONLY thing people would talk about. This isn't Lou dropping a ball, this is you sucking one.

Trade Volch to Colorado in a package to get Stastny, sign Jagr.

 

Henrique-Stastny-Ryder

Zubrus-Elias-Jagr

Clowe-Zajac-Tedenby

Carter-Gionta-Bernier

Extra: Loktionov/Barch

 

Greene-Larsson

Gelinas-Fayne

Salvador-Zidlicky

Extra: Harrold

We don't need a center, Zajac isn't paid to play on the third line, and in what universe would Tedenby play over Loktionov?


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 10:20 AM

Help is not coming from within. Tedenby is pretty much a lost cause and Josefeson might score 30 points in a full season (if he can even play a full season)

 

Signing Jagr is a no brainer. He wants to come here. The closer to AC the better for him. A 1 year deal and he can help replace Kovy on the powerplay.

 

After that maybe sign Brunner or Grabovski.

 

 

I really hope we announce the signing of Jagr TODAY!


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 10:21 AM

The only thing that could make this whole situation worse is if Lou does some knee-jerk reaction signings.

 

Let the dust settle, then move forward.  So help me God if we sign Grabo to a bloated 6+ year deal I'll lose my mind.


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 10:28 AM

The question moving forward is whether or not we're going to be able to get quality free agents to sign here in the short and medium term. If I'm a free agent, would I want to come here given the fact that this whole deal is one giant circus of uncertainty?


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 10:34 AM

Sign Dustin Penner.


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 10:38 AM

The question moving forward is whether or not we're going to be able to get quality free agents to sign here in the short and medium term. If I'm a free agent, would I want to come here given the fact that this whole deal is one giant circus of uncertainty?

 

We have NEVER had a problem signing free agents.  Our pre-Kovy tradition of winning hockey was attractive to free agents.  Devils hockey elevated a players stature in the marketplace and allowed avergae players to get huge deals later in their career (Holik, Gomez, Clarkson, Sykora, etc.).

 

There is no uncertainty here.  You want to win, come here.


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 10:38 AM

I think Lou plays it cool and just waits to see what become available as we now have cap space and some teams may still exercise their amnesty buy outs.


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